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Daniel Landau 10-07-2012 09:21 AM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
I posted this question on ask Fedora (http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/2612/fedora-fails-to-boot-with-systemd-journald-failing), but didn't get any answer so I'm asking here also.


My computer is in a totally useless state, as I can not boot at all. What I did was I tried to join my root, boot and home partitions into one. I copied the files, updated the grub config and /etc/fstab and recreated the initramfs, all this from a live Fedora environment. Now I can't boot, instead the system hangs at an endless loop printing something like (typing it here from memory) "[FAILED] can't start systemd journal service" over and over again.


What can I do to fix my system?

Daniel Landau

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Tim 10-07-2012 11:14 AM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 12:21 +0300, Daniel Landau wrote:
> What I did was I tried to join my root, boot and home partitions into
> one.

Not really a good idea, but most particularly not keeping boot separate.
Nothing wrong with the other stuff being on one partition, you just need
to make the change carefully.

> I copied the files, updated the grub config and /etc/fstab and
> recreated the initramfs, all this from a live Fedora environment.

I think you're going to go into much more explicit detail about what you
did before anyone can give you accurate help.

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Frank Murphy 10-07-2012 11:17 AM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On 07/10/12 10:21, Daniel Landau wrote:

What can I do to fix my system?



Reinstall, and then leave things alone.



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Matthew Miller 10-07-2012 01:22 PM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 12:17:22PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 07/10/12 10:21, Daniel Landau wrote:
> >What can I do to fix my system?
> Reinstall, and then leave things alone.

That's really not a very friendly suggestion. Traditionally, Linux-based
operating systems are fun to work with because you can mess around and when
you break things, you can find what went wrong, you can usually find a good
reason and even if you can't repair it, you can understand exactly what you
screwed up.

So, how can Daniel find exactly what is making this system fail to boot?
Will it be logged somewhere even though journald is failing to start? Is
there a way to turn on more helpful debugging output?


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Frank Murphy 10-07-2012 02:01 PM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On 07/10/12 14:22, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 12:17:22PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 07/10/12 10:21, Daniel Landau wrote:

What can I do to fix my system?

Reinstall, and then leave things alone.


That's really not a very friendly suggestion. Traditionally, Linux-based
operating systems are fun to work with because you can mess around and when
you break things, you can find what went wrong,


Disagree, Linux systems are fuctional beasts (in a good way)
But play with them at your peril, just like any other OS.

you can usually find a good

reason and even if you can't repair it, you can understand exactly what you
screwed up.


If whoever can't fix it,
you shouldn't really be encourageing breakage


So, how can Daniel find exactly what is making this system fail to boot?


Thats' known already, he moved stuff, and libsconfigs etc,
are now in a maze.


Will it be logged somewhere even though journald is failing to start?


Probably not if journald is sweeping.

Is

there a way to turn on more helpful debugging output?


Yes, reinstall

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Frank Murphy 10-07-2012 02:17 PM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On 07/10/12 10:21, Daniel Landau wrote:

I posted this question on ask Fedora
(http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/2612/fedora-fails-to-boot-with-systemd-journald-failing),
but didn't get any answer so I'm asking here also.

My computer is in a totally useless state, as I can not boot at all.
What I did was I tried to join my root, boot and home partitions into
one.


Explain what is the name of the One?


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Joe Zeff 10-07-2012 04:30 PM

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On 10/07/2012 02:21 AM, Daniel Landau wrote:

What can I do to fix my system?



Did you back up anything before starting?
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Daniel Landau 10-07-2012 05:20 PM

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Hi all,

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Joe Zeff <joe@zeff.us> wrote:
>
> Did you back up anything before starting?
>

Not really, no, but doing it now.


On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Frank Murphy <frankly3d@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/10/12 10:21, Daniel Landau wrote:
>> My computer is in a totally useless state, as I can not boot at all.
>> What I did was I tried to join my root, boot and home partitions into
>> one.
>
> Explain what is the name of the One?

Not really sure what you mean by this. It's name is /dev/sda5 perhaps?

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank Murphy <frankly3d@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/10/12 14:22, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> So, how can Daniel find exactly what is making this system fail to boot?
>
> Thats' known already, he moved stuff, and libsconfigs etc,
> are now in a maze.

Why should libs and configs care about the partitions as long as
everything is mounted correctly?

>> Is there a way to turn on more helpful debugging output?
>
> Yes, reinstall

That's not really helpful.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 12:21 +0300, Daniel Landau wrote:
>> What I did was I tried to join my root, boot and home partitions into
>> one.
>
> Not really a good idea, but most particularly not keeping boot separate.
> Nothing wrong with the other stuff being on one partition, you just need
> to make the change carefully.

There's no reason why you couldn't keep everything on one partition.
One possible reason could be having an ext2 boot partition and
something more exciting for the rest, but I don't think my problem is
with booting off ext4.

>
>> I copied the files, updated the grub config and /etc/fstab and
>> recreated the initramfs, all this from a live Fedora environment.
>
> I think you're going to go into much more explicit detail about what you
> did before anyone can give you accurate help.

Ok, what I did step by step:

1. Boot into a live Fedora environment.
2. Mount all the partitions that the Fedora installer created for me,
i.e. boot, root and home
3. The home partitions was in the place I wanted it, and the correct
size so I chose it to be my new all-in-one partition.
4. I created a new directory home in my partition and moved the user's
home directories there
5. I copied everything from my root partition (except for the empty
home dir) to the all-in-one partition. I figured this should be fine,
since it wasn't running, so no dirt in proc. I'm not really sure about
whether I should have omitted something, because I'm not such an
expert.
6. In the previous step, an empty boot directory got transferred into
the partition, so I just copied the contents of the boot partition
there.
7. At this stage, the grub config was all wrong, so I updated it with
grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg. It found the Fedora install
and seemed to be by all accounts fine.
8. I updated /etc/fstab from having mounts with different UUIDs to
having just /dev/sda5 at root (/), because that's what I have now.
9. Some googling/duckduckgoing led me to believe, that
systemd-journald has something to do with the initramfs, mainly
starting there. I don't really know what this means. The link is here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835867. Also this step
didn't have any effect as far as I can tell.

And that's where I'm now. Some help would be appreciated.

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"Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." 10-07-2012 05:24 PM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On 10/07/2012 05:21 AM, Daniel Landau
wrote:



I posted this question on ask Fedora (http://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/2612/fedora-fails-to-boot-with-systemd-journald-failing),
but didn't get any answer so I'm asking here also.

My computer is in a totally useless state, as I can
not boot at all. What I did was I tried to join my root, boot
and home partitions into one. I copied the files, updated the
grub config and /etc/fstab and recreated the initramfs, all this
from a live Fedora environment. Now I can't boot, instead the
system hangs at an endless loop printing something like (typing
it here from memory) "[FAILED] can't start systemd journal
service" over and over again.

What can I do to fix my system?

Daniel Landau







To me?...since I'm not that proficient with all the "tricks of the
trade" as most people here are, sounds like a complete and utter
re-installation of the OS. It's the only way I could see getting
everything back where it belongs......of course I'm sure one of
these Gurus will have a proven, sure-fire method of getting this to
work, and I'm very interested in hearing and reading about them, to
add to my "tips & tricks" collection....but as far as I'm
concerned I would just re-install from scratch and know to NOT do
whatever it is you did in the future!





EGO II



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"Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." 10-07-2012 05:29 PM

Fedora fails to boot with systemd-journald failing
 
On 10/07/2012 09:22 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 12:17:22PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:

On 07/10/12 10:21, Daniel Landau wrote:

What can I do to fix my system?

Reinstall, and then leave things alone.

That's really not a very friendly suggestion. Traditionally, Linux-based
operating systems are fun to work with because you can mess around and when
you break things, you can find what went wrong, you can usually find a good
reason and even if you can't repair it, you can understand exactly what you
screwed up.

So, how can Daniel find exactly what is making this system fail to boot?
Will it be logged somewhere even though journald is failing to start? Is
there a way to turn on more helpful debugging output?


I myself cannot think of a way to get journald to start.....unless
you're talking "command line" stuff.....maybe there's some switch?...or
command that will allow him to get to the point where he can select
services that he wants to run upon boot-up? I don't know because I'm
still a noobie.....but if I were going to give a "friendly" suggestion
it would be something along those lines....I also wouldn't like to be
given advice such as that.....but SOMETIMES....it's the ONLY advice that
can be given?....as I myself have been told that a time or
two.....hmmm....is there somewhere I can go to find command line stuff
that would allow me to check / start / stop services upon booting up?
Besides the "Man Pages" that I wouldn't be able to access because I
wouldn't be able to boot up?....



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