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Old 09-13-2012, 07:41 PM
Fedora User
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

People must have too much time on their hands. Add some features; maybe
clean up some code. But why on earth make major UI changes to a program
that consistently did exactly what it was supposed to do exactly as it
was supposed to do it - - - and now doesn't. Ugh!

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Old 09-13-2012, 07:56 PM
Joe Zeff
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On 09/13/2012 12:41 PM, Fedora User wrote:

People must have too much time on their hands. Add some features; maybe
clean up some code. But why on earth make major UI changes to a program
that consistently did exactly what it was supposed to do exactly as it
was supposed to do it - - - and now doesn't. Ugh!



Probably for the same reason they did pretty much the same thing to
Gnome 3: it's new, therefor it must be better.


BTW, if you want to look geeky[1], the right way to refer to that verb
is by substituting the name of the File System ChecKer for it, as in,
"Why did they fsck with GIMP." And, while I'm at it, when did it stop
being The GIMP[2]?


[1]And who on this list doesn't?
[2]As in The Gnome Image Manipulation Program.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:57 PM
Fedora User
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 15:41 -0400, Fedora User wrote:
> People must have too much time on their hands. Add some features; maybe
> clean up some code. But why on earth make major UI changes to a program
> that consistently did exactly what it was supposed to do exactly as it
> was supposed to do it - - - and now doesn't. Ugh!

BTW, Fedora 17, GIMP 2.8.2. Unable to center multi-line text. Can no
longer create a shape and then fill it with a color. Color ME
frustrated.

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Old 09-13-2012, 08:04 PM
Michael Cronenworth
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

Fedora User wrote:
> BTW, Fedora 17, GIMP 2.8.2. Unable to center multi-line text. Can no
> longer create a shape and then fill it with a color. Color ME
> frustrated.

I'm able to do both of those things with the same version of software. I
did them within seconds of opening GIMP. Perhaps you need to look at all
the buttons and maybe the manual?

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:58 PM
Lailah
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 15:41 -0400, Fedora User escribió:


People must have too much time on their hands. Add some features; maybe
clean up some code. But why on earth make major UI changes to a program
that consistently did exactly what it was supposed to do exactly as it
was supposed to do it - - - and now doesn't. Ugh!







Could you be more specific, please?* I don't find anything strange on Gimp but the lack of FX-Foundry plugins pack.





Thanks!

Lailah







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Old 09-14-2012, 10:26 AM
"Bryn M. Reeves"
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On 09/13/2012 08:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 09/13/2012 12:41 PM, Fedora User wrote:
>> People must have too much time on their hands. Add some features; maybe
>> clean up some code. But why on earth make major UI changes to a program
>> that consistently did exactly what it was supposed to do exactly as it
>> was supposed to do it - - - and now doesn't. Ugh!
>>
>
> Probably for the same reason they did pretty much the same thing to
> Gnome 3: it's new, therefor it must be better.

What is it that you don't like in the new GIMP? For me the single window
interface is far preferable to the old lets-hunt-around-the-workspace
mode and it's optional if you do prefer the free-floating layout.

> is by substituting the name of the File System ChecKer for it, as in,
> "Why did they fsck with GIMP." And, while I'm at it, when did it stop
> being The GIMP[2]?

I don't recall the splash screens or about box calling it "The GIMP" in
a very long time (if ever) but the project website still lists the
expansion as "GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program." (side-note:
GIMP predates Gnome - GTK was originally the GIMP toolkit).

Regards,
Bryn.

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Old 09-14-2012, 10:34 AM
Ian Malone
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On 14 September 2012 11:26, Bryn M. Reeves <bmr@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 09/13/2012 08:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:


>> And, while I'm at it, when did it stop
>> being The GIMP[2]?
>
> I don't recall the splash screens or about box calling it "The GIMP" in
> a very long time (if ever) but the project website still lists the

2.2 splash screen and window titles say 'the GIMP', and there's a help
item 'the GIMP online'. (The about box doesn't have a program title,
it's a sort of slideshow, a title may appear eventually, but I'm not
going to sit and watch to find out.) And it is indeed the GNU image
manipulation programme.

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Old 09-14-2012, 10:41 AM
"Bryn M. Reeves"
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On 09/13/2012 08:57 PM, Fedora User wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 15:41 -0400, Fedora User wrote:
>> People must have too much time on their hands. Add some features; maybe
>> clean up some code. But why on earth make major UI changes to a program
>> that consistently did exactly what it was supposed to do exactly as it
>> was supposed to do it - - - and now doesn't. Ugh!
>
> BTW, Fedora 17, GIMP 2.8.2. Unable to center multi-line text. Can no
> longer create a shape and then fill it with a color. Color ME
> frustrated.

I just tried these operations in 2.8.2 and they are working for me in
more-or-less the way I've always used them. There's sometimes more than
one way to achieve a result in Gimp so that may be why your experience
differs (or it could just be a bug/bugs).

To create and fill a shape I use the selection or path editing tools to
create an outline, stroke it and then the bucket-fill tool to fill it
with a pattern or solid colour.

For centred multi-line text I just use the text tool, click to place and
enter the text. The floating (cairo) dialog does not give you the
justification options but it's there in the tool options pane:

http://www.errorists.org/stuff/gimp-2.8.2-fill-and-text.png

If you turn single window mode off (Windows menu and uncheck
Single-Window mode) it'll be in the bottom half of the floating toolbox
window.

Regards,
Bryn.

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Old 09-14-2012, 10:54 AM
"Bryn M. Reeves"
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On 09/14/2012 11:34 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 14 September 2012 11:26, Bryn M. Reeves <bmr@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 09/13/2012 08:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
>
>>> And, while I'm at it, when did it stop
>>> being The GIMP[2]?
>>
>> I don't recall the splash screens or about box calling it "The GIMP" in
>> a very long time (if ever) but the project website still lists the
>
> 2.2 splash screen and window titles say 'the GIMP', and there's a help
> item 'the GIMP online'. (The about box doesn't have a program title,
> it's a sort of slideshow, a title may appear eventually, but I'm not
> going to sit and watch to find out.) And it is indeed the GNU image
> manipulation programme.
>

Thanks - I thought I vaguely remembered it saying it at some point but
the oldest one I could find to hand was 2.4 (2.2 is eight years old now!).

Regards,
Bryn.

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Old 09-14-2012, 12:41 PM
Claude Jones
 
Default Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

On 09/14/2012 06:26 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

What is it that you don't like in the new GIMP? For me the single window
interface is far preferable to the old lets-hunt-around-the-workspace
mode and it's optional if you do prefer the free-floating layout.


I've always disliked the free floating windows but, I still have them.
How do I implement the single window interface? I've got 2.6


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