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Old 08-03-2012, 06:32 AM
Frank Murphy
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On 03/08/12 07:27, Ed Greshko wrote:

Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2. However, this has caused a breakage in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.

So, I wanted to go back to 3.4.6-2 and downgrade kernel-headers.

I was under the impression that "yum downgrade" would result in going back on version.


http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=333970

Handy to bookmark:
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:36 AM
Ed Greshko
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On 08/03/2012 02:32 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 03/08/12 07:27, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2. However, this has caused a breakage in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.
>>
>> So, I wanted to go back to 3.4.6-2 and downgrade kernel-headers.
>>
>> I was under the impression that "yum downgrade" would result in going back on version.
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=333970
>
> Handy to bookmark:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/
>

Thanks Frank.... At least I can download 3.4.6-2 now... But, I still wonder why the downgrade skips over it.... ?

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Old 08-03-2012, 08:25 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:36:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

> On 08/03/2012 02:32 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On 03/08/12 07:27, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2. However, this has caused a breakage in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.
> >>
> >> So, I wanted to go back to 3.4.6-2 and downgrade kernel-headers.
> >>
> >> I was under the impression that "yum downgrade" would result in going back on version.
> >
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=333970
> >
> > Handy to bookmark:
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/
> >
>
> Thanks Frank.... At least I can download 3.4.6-2 now... But, I still wonder why the downgrade skips over it.... ?
>

It isn't available in the repo(s) anymore.
3.5.0-2 has replaced 3.4.6-2 in the updates repo.

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Old 08-03-2012, 08:39 AM
Andre Robatino
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

The 3.5.0 breakage is already reported, it's supposed to be fixed in the next
VirtualBox release. Now that it's affecting F17 and not just Rawhide, hopefully
that will be expedited.

https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10709

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Old 08-03-2012, 08:48 AM
Ed Greshko
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On 08/03/2012 04:39 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> The 3.5.0 breakage is already reported, it's supposed to be fixed in the next
> VirtualBox release. Now that it's affecting F17 and not just Rawhide, hopefully
> that will be expedited.
>
> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10709

Yes, I did find that an implemented the workaround.'

I was more curious about the downgrade issue.....having never tried it before. Seems as if "downgrade" doesn't really mean what it says in "man yum" since the repos only contain the latest update to a package in the "updates" repo and the initial release package in the "release" repo.




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Old 08-03-2012, 09:16 AM
Frank Murphy
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On 03/08/12 09:48, Ed Greshko wrote:



I was more curious about the downgrade issue.....having never tried it before. Seems as if "downgrade" doesn't really mean what it says in "man yum" since the repos only contain the latest update to a package in the "updates" repo and the initial release package in the "release" repo.



I find a local.repo a very handy solution (yum-plugin-local) ,
used in conjunction with a script to keep only relevant rpms.


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Old 08-03-2012, 10:26 AM
Suvayu Ali
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 04:48:13PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> I was more curious about the downgrade issue.....having never tried it
> before. Seems as if "downgrade" doesn't really mean what it says in
> "man yum" since the repos only contain the latest update to a package
> in the "updates" repo and the initial release package in the "release"
> repo.
>

As I understand it, downgrade still requires the original rpm. So it
first looks in the local yum cache, if not available looks for it on the
repo.

That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
have it in their cache?

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:38 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:

> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
> versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
> have it in their cache?

IMO, the community would be served better if they tried packages from
updates-testing early and more often.

Individual users may keep copies of installed packages, e.g. via
yum-plugin-local or by saving Yum cache contents, but evaluating
updates-testing should be the primary way to check new updates for
bugs.

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:46 AM
Reindl Harald
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

Am 03.08.2012 12:38, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
>> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
>> versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
>> have it in their cache?
>
> IMO, the community would be served better if they tried packages from
> updates-testing early and more often.

this does not help anything if there are fatal bugs reported which
stops boot like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843826
and ignored in a way that since yesterday kernel 3.5 is in stable
repos for F17

adn yes i installed the first 3.5 MINUTES after it was built on
koji on a for me very important machine and reported the bug

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Old 08-03-2012, 11:50 AM
Suvayu Ali
 
Default kernel-headers downgrade failure

On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:38:13PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> > That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
> > versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
> > have it in their cache?
>
> IMO, the community would be served better if they tried packages from
> updates-testing early and more often.
>
> Individual users may keep copies of installed packages, e.g. via
> yum-plugin-local or by saving Yum cache contents, but evaluating
> updates-testing should be the primary way to check new updates for
> bugs.
>

Well the comment about trying packages from updates-testing is always
true. I often try to do that, but sometimes it is not possible because
you might want to have an extremely reliable system for a couple of
months or so. You hold off updates that require reboots or logouts and
soon your local cache is outdated, and a future downgrade fails.

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