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Old 07-26-2012, 02:01 AM
Matt Morgan
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of Windows.


Thanks,
Matt

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Old 07-26-2012, 02:19 AM
"Mikkel L. Ellertson"
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

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On 07/25/2012 09:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:
> I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it from inside Linux
somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I looked at
VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to them)
but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of
Windows.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
Before you start playing with this, duplicate your hardware profile
in Windows. You will probably need one profile when you boot Windows
directly, and one when you boot it in a virtual machine.

I have not used Virtual Machine Manager, but you can read about how
to do it with VirtualBox in:

9.8.1 Using a raw host hard disk from a guest

Be sure to make good backups and head the warnings. This is for
"expert users only" according to the manual. It used to be possible
from VMWare, but I have not tried it in a while, so I do not know if
it is currently supported.

Mikkel
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:21 AM
Claude Jones
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On 07/25/2012 10:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:

I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it
from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I
looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to
them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of
Windows.


You can't run your existing Windows installation 'inside Linux' as you
ask. Virtual Box works well for me and this is how it's done. You
install Virtual Box, then open the program and create a new virtual
machine; you will be asked some parameters such as drive size, how many
processors to use, how much memory you want to use, and what operating
system the virtual machine will use. Once the new virtual machine is
configured, you can instruct it to boot from your DVD drive, insert your
Windows disk in the drive, and start up your new virtual machine. It
will detect the DVD in the drive and boot from it, and let you install
an instance of Windows. That's the basics - I happen to be working from
my Linux box at home, using a Windows 7 virtual machine running under
Virtual Box, which is logged into my workplace through a VPN connection,
and I'm administering a bunch of Windows Servers, so I can attest, it
works well.


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Old 07-26-2012, 03:59 AM
Steven Stern
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On 07/25/2012 09:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:
> I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it
> from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I
> looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to
> them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of
> Windows.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
I run XP in VirtualBox (from the Oracle repo) on my machine and it's
very happy with about 1.5G of memory.

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Old 07-26-2012, 04:52 AM
Richard Vickery
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Steven Stern <subscribed-lists@sterndata.com> wrote:

On 07/25/2012 09:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:

> I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it

> from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I

> looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to

> them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of

> Windows.

>

> Thanks,

> Matt

>

>

I run XP in VirtualBox (from the Oracle repo) on my machine and it's

very happy with about 1.5G of memory.



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Old 07-26-2012, 05:07 AM
Roger
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On 26/07/12 14:52, Richard Vickery
wrote:




On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Steven
Stern <subscribed-lists@sterndata.com>
wrote:



On 07/25/2012 09:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:

> I have Windows actually installed on a separate
partition. Can I run it

> from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting
into Windows. I

> looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm
completely new to

> them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a
real installation of

> Windows.

>

> Thanks,

> Matt

>

>



I run XP in VirtualBox (from the Oracle repo) on my machine
and it's

very happy with about 1.5G of memory.



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As far as I can tell you have to install windows inside VirtualBox
or other Virtual system. As I understand it they don't pick up a
previous install in another partition or hard drive.

That's my experience.

Roger



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Old 07-26-2012, 06:04 AM
Joachim Backes
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On 07/26/2012 07:07 AM, Roger wrote:
> On 26/07/12 14:52, Richard Vickery wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Steven Stern
>> <subscribed-lists@sterndata.com
>> <mailto:subscribed-lists@sterndata.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/25/2012 09:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:
>> > I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I
>> run it
>> > from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into
>> Windows. I
>> > looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely
>> new to
>> > them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real
>> installation of
>> > Windows.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Matt

Hi all,

I found the link:

http://blog.amhill.net/2010/01/27/linux-ftw-using-virtualbox-with-an-existing-windows-partition/

Hope, it helps!

>
>>
>> What is the thought of WINE?

I think that was not the question!

Kind regards

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Old 07-26-2012, 07:54 AM
Marko Vojinovic
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On Wednesday, 25. July 2012. 22.21.14 Claude Jones wrote:
> On 07/25/2012 10:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:
> > I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it
> > from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I
> > looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to
> > them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of
> > Windows.
>
> You can't run your existing Windows installation 'inside Linux' as you
> ask.

On the contrary, yes it can be done. Basically, you point VirtualBox to your
physical partition which contains Windows, and let it boot from that.

The only problem is that virtual hardware detected by Windows will be different
from the host hardware it was installed on, and Windows will not like that, so
some extra steps need to be done (creating another hardware profile in Windows,
etc.). The OP should read all the details and caveats in the VirtualBox
documentation.

Also, I've done this only with Windows XP, don't know if other versions are
supported or not. The OP didn't specify which Windows he is running. In
addition, there might or might not be architecture-based problems, depending
on the 32/64bit installations of Windows, Linux and VirtualBox.

HTH, :-)
Marko




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Old 07-27-2012, 12:55 AM
Matt Morgan
 
Default Run my windows dual-boot install in a window in f17

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, 25. July 2012. 22.21.14 Claude Jones wrote:

> On 07/25/2012 10:01 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:

> > I have Windows actually installed on a separate partition. Can I run it

> > from inside Linux somehow? That is, without rebooting into Windows. I

> > looked at VirtualBox and Virtual Machine Manager (I'm completely new to

> > them) but it wasn't obvious that they could use a real installation of

> > Windows.

>

> You can't run your existing Windows installation 'inside Linux' as you

> ask.



On the contrary, yes it can be done. Basically, you point VirtualBox to your

physical partition which contains Windows, and let it boot from that.



The only problem is that virtual hardware detected by Windows will be different

from the host hardware it was installed on, and Windows will not like that, so

some extra steps need to be done (creating another hardware profile in Windows,

etc.). The OP should read all the details and caveats in the VirtualBox

documentation.



Also, I've done this only with Windows XP, don't know if other versions are

supported or not. The OP didn't specify which Windows he is running. In

addition, there might or might not be architecture-based problems, depending

on the 32/64bit installations of Windows, Linux and VirtualBox.



HTH, :-)

Marko
Thanks to all who responded! Wine is great but not in this case, for various reasons. And I can't probably reinstall from inside VirtualBox, as this is just the version of Windows XP that came pre-installed (OEM, that is) on the computer. So I'll give it a try, the hard way!


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Old 07-27-2012, 02:15 AM
"Mikkel L. Ellertson"
 
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On 07/26/2012 07:55 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded! Wine is great but not in this case, for various reasons. And I
can't probably reinstall from inside VirtualBox, as this is just the
version of Windows XP that came pre-installed (OEM, that is) on the
computer. So I'll give it a try, the hard way!
>
It may be possible to install the pre-installed version in
VirtualBox. If you have restore disks, chances are you can use them.
You may have to tweak some of the BIOS settings in the virtual
machine. This is covered in the manual. You just have to set some of
the BIOS information strings to match the ones in the real BIOS so
that the install software is happy. I have done this with Toshiba
restore disks in the past when I wiped the original, installed
Linux, and then re-installed Windows in a virtual machine running on
the same box.

Mikkel
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