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Old 07-24-2012, 05:45 PM
Andrew Haley
 
Default F17 External Monitor on 945GM

On 07/24/2012 06:41 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/24/2012 04:20 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
>>> Yeah. It doesn't appear to be a hardware thing. xrandr --auto --output
>>> VGA1 --same-as LVDS1 does the same as merely connecting the monitor
>> itself.
>>> LCD flickers and comes back and the monitor does nothing. To me, the fact
>>> that the LCD flickers sows it's scanning the new layout. The only way I
>> get
>>> any type of activity on the external monitor is to invoke the keyboard
>>> toggle Fn-F5. But as mentioned, things get ugly fast when I do that.
>>
>> As far as I can see there's not much more you can do. I think you're
>> looking at a real driver bug that needs reporting and fixing.
>
> Alrighty then. To be honest I'm not entirely certain how to do that. As is,
> what info to collect and to what project would I submit said info!? Sorry.
> I have little experience in submitting bugs but I'd like to contribute what
> I can...Sure someone will encounter this that could use the reference.
> Obviously I wouldn't mind having the fix myself as well

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla

Please just describe the problem. You don't have to type much,
because you can just include a URL like this one:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-July/422209.html

Thanks,
Andrew.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
David G. Miller
 
Default F17 External Monitor on 945GM

Philippe LeCavalier <support <at> plecavalier.com> writes:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support <at>
plecavalier.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
...
> A yes. The infamous Intel 945 chipset...I waded through the whole sluggish
feel issues of the >2048 res issue. Then an update appeared to have addressed
all my issues(no idea which one because the one that was supposed to fix it
didn't).
...
>
> So here are the symptoms: if I connect an external monitor(VGA) it won't light
up at all. My LCD flickers and comes back to it's original state. Fine. The
display settings reflect that one was connected and typically ids it properly.
Again, fine. I then set an appropriate resolution and placement for both and hit
apply. At this point the screen flickers again and my laptop comes back but the
monitor does nothing(orange light). I can however, bring my cursor passed the
LCD to where the monitor "is" but it's not lit so no joy there. If I let the
time run out on the dialog everything goes back to normal. No harm no foul. If I
play with any of the kbd combo keys to force the external monitor gnome-shell
freaks out and I'm forced to recover using the console. The only thing I can
successfully accomplish is Fn+F5 resulting in the external monitor only-type
setup. Recovering from that without restarting X is not possible. If I toggle
back to my LCD the screen flickers and spins. Same goes for disconnecting the
VGA cable. At this point I can't go back to the monitor either. I have no choice
but to open a console and restart Gnome-Shell. The odd time I can't even do that
and must power off(ouch! haven't had to do that in Linux for years)
>

> --*Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
Hi Phil -

I had some similar problems with FC16 on an HP laptop with the i915 chip set. X
still starts goofy with an external monitor attached but a simple:

xrandr --output VGA1 --left-of LVDS1

sorts out how much of the display should be on each monitor.

The trivial oddity that I have is that, for some reason, this laptop monitor
always comes up at zero brightness. Have you tried adjusting the screen
brightness on the laptop once everything is up? I have to wait until X is up
for this to work. The text output from booting goes to the external monitor and
I can pound on the laptop's screen brightness key and nothing happens. After X
starts, it behaves as expected. This drove me nuts getting FC16 working since
there weren't any errors; just no display.

I'm running FC16 from a bootable, external hard disk. The i915 laptop is in my
office and I have an older HP laptop with an ATI chipset at home. I boot the
home laptop from the external hard disk and the display is duplicated until X
starts and then I get the same slightly goofy overlap I see on my work laptop.
A slightly different xrandr (xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS) sorts out
those displays.

A couple of other suggestions are to turn off graphical boot and quiet mode so
you can see what's going on as the system boots. Also, switch to booting in the
equivalent to runlevel 3 (multiuser target) and then start X from the command
line with startx.

Cheers,
Dave

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:23 PM
Philippe LeCavalier
 
Default F17 External Monitor on 945GM

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David G. Miller <dave@davenjudy.org> wrote:

Philippe LeCavalier <support <at> plecavalier.com> writes:



>

>

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support <at>

plecavalier.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone.

...

> A yes. The infamous Intel 945 chipset...I waded through the whole sluggish

feel issues of the >2048 res issue. Then an update appeared to have addressed

all my issues(no idea which one because the one that was supposed to fix it

didn't).

...

>

> So here are the symptoms: if I connect an external monitor(VGA) it won't light

up at all. My LCD flickers and comes back to it's original state. Fine. The

display settings reflect that one was connected and typically ids it properly.

Again, fine. I then set an appropriate resolution and placement for both and hit

apply. At this point the screen flickers again and my laptop comes back but the

monitor does nothing(orange light). I can however, bring my cursor passed the

LCD to where the monitor "is" but it's not lit so no joy there. If I let the

time run out on the dialog everything goes back to normal. No harm no foul. If I

play with any of the kbd combo keys to force the external monitor gnome-shell

freaks out and I'm forced to recover using the console. The only thing I can

successfully accomplish is Fn+F5 resulting in the external monitor only-type

setup. Recovering from that without restarting X is not possible. If I toggle

back to my LCD the screen flickers and spins. Same goes for disconnecting the

VGA cable. At this point I can't go back to the monitor either. I have no choice

but to open a console and restart Gnome-Shell. The odd time I can't even do that

and must power off(ouch! haven't had to do that in Linux for years)

>



> --*Thanks,

> Phil

>

>

Hi Phil -



I had some similar problems with FC16 on an HP laptop with the i915 chip set. *X

still starts goofy with an external monitor attached but a simple:



xrandr --output VGA1 --left-of LVDS1



sorts out how much of the display should be on each monitor.



The trivial oddity that I have is that, for some reason, this laptop monitor

always comes up at zero brightness. *Have you tried adjusting the screen

brightness on the laptop once everything is up? *I have to wait until X is up

for this to work. *The text output from booting goes to the external monitor and

I can pound on the laptop's screen brightness key and nothing happens. *After X

starts, it behaves as expected. *This drove me nuts getting FC16 working since

there weren't any errors; just no display.



I'm running FC16 from a bootable, external hard disk. *The i915 laptop is in my

office and I have an older HP laptop with an ATI chipset at home. *I boot the

home laptop from the external hard disk and the display is duplicated until X

starts and then I get the same slightly goofy overlap I see on my work laptop.

A slightly different xrandr (xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS) sorts out

those displays.



A couple of other suggestions are to turn off graphical boot and quiet mode so

you can see what's going on as the system boots. *Also, switch to booting in the

equivalent to runlevel 3 (multiuser target) and then start X from the command

line with startx.



Cheers,

Dave



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Thanks Dave! your suggestions haven't lead to a solution
(yet) but I finally, finally found an error msg I can report back...
When I connect the monitor I get this[4] and this[5]. Hopefully this gives someone the proverbial light bulb effect. All it tells me is that well, the monitor isn't powering on, which I already knew all too well Just to reiterate, I can force the external on with the kbd shortcut but the results are that I loose my LCD. The goal here is*achieving*dual display and not just external. btw there are more EDID errors just don't know if they're relevant or not.

Do we thinks me have enough to post a bug or do me needs more nfo?
references(seem to have lost me original refs...anyway):[4][drm:intel_lvds_enable] *ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on
[5][drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid, remainder is 16
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:57 PM
Philippe LeCavalier
 
Default F17 External Monitor on 945GM

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David G. Miller <dave@davenjudy.org> wrote:


Philippe LeCavalier <support <at> plecavalier.com> writes:



>

>

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support <at>

plecavalier.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone.

...

> A yes. The infamous Intel 945 chipset...I waded through the whole sluggish

feel issues of the >2048 res issue. Then an update appeared to have addressed

all my issues(no idea which one because the one that was supposed to fix it

didn't).

...

>

> So here are the symptoms: if I connect an external monitor(VGA) it won't light

up at all. My LCD flickers and comes back to it's original state. Fine. The

display settings reflect that one was connected and typically ids it properly.

Again, fine. I then set an appropriate resolution and placement for both and hit

apply. At this point the screen flickers again and my laptop comes back but the

monitor does nothing(orange light). I can however, bring my cursor passed the

LCD to where the monitor "is" but it's not lit so no joy there. If I let the

time run out on the dialog everything goes back to normal. No harm no foul. If I

play with any of the kbd combo keys to force the external monitor gnome-shell

freaks out and I'm forced to recover using the console. The only thing I can

successfully accomplish is Fn+F5 resulting in the external monitor only-type

setup. Recovering from that without restarting X is not possible. If I toggle

back to my LCD the screen flickers and spins. Same goes for disconnecting the

VGA cable. At this point I can't go back to the monitor either. I have no choice

but to open a console and restart Gnome-Shell. The odd time I can't even do that

and must power off(ouch! haven't had to do that in Linux for years)

>



> --*Thanks,

> Phil

>

>

Hi Phil -



I had some similar problems with FC16 on an HP laptop with the i915 chip set. *X

still starts goofy with an external monitor attached but a simple:



xrandr --output VGA1 --left-of LVDS1



sorts out how much of the display should be on each monitor.



The trivial oddity that I have is that, for some reason, this laptop monitor

always comes up at zero brightness. *Have you tried adjusting the screen

brightness on the laptop once everything is up? *I have to wait until X is up

for this to work. *The text output from booting goes to the external monitor and

I can pound on the laptop's screen brightness key and nothing happens. *After X

starts, it behaves as expected. *This drove me nuts getting FC16 working since

there weren't any errors; just no display.



I'm running FC16 from a bootable, external hard disk. *The i915 laptop is in my

office and I have an older HP laptop with an ATI chipset at home. *I boot the

home laptop from the external hard disk and the display is duplicated until X

starts and then I get the same slightly goofy overlap I see on my work laptop.

A slightly different xrandr (xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS) sorts out

those displays.



A couple of other suggestions are to turn off graphical boot and quiet mode so

you can see what's going on as the system boots. *Also, switch to booting in the

equivalent to runlevel 3 (multiuser target) and then start X from the command

line with startx.



Cheers,

Dave



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Thanks Dave! your suggestions haven't lead to a solution
(yet) but I finally, finally found an error msg I can report back...
When I connect the monitor I get this[4] and this[5]. Hopefully this gives someone the proverbial light bulb effect. All it tells me is that well, the monitor isn't powering on, which I already knew all too well Just to reiterate, I can force the external on with the kbd shortcut but the results are that I loose my LCD. The goal here is*achieving*dual display and not just external. btw there are more EDID errors just don't know if they're relevant or not.


Do we thinks me have enough to post a bug or do me needs more nfo?
filed this[6] today. We'll see what comes form it.*
references(seem to have lost me original refs...anyway):[4][drm:intel_lvds_enable] *ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on
[5][drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid, remainder is 16
[6]*Bug 846365*
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Old 08-23-2012, 02:51 PM
Philippe LeCavalier
 
Default F17 External Monitor on 945GM

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support@plecavalier.com> wrote:


On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David G. Miller <dave@davenjudy.org> wrote:


Philippe LeCavalier <support <at> plecavalier.com> writes:



>

>

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier <support <at>

plecavalier.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone.

...

> A yes. The infamous Intel 945 chipset...I waded through the whole sluggish

feel issues of the >2048 res issue. Then an update appeared to have addressed

all my issues(no idea which one because the one that was supposed to fix it

didn't).

...

>

> So here are the symptoms: if I connect an external monitor(VGA) it won't light

up at all. My LCD flickers and comes back to it's original state. Fine. The

display settings reflect that one was connected and typically ids it properly.

Again, fine. I then set an appropriate resolution and placement for both and hit

apply. At this point the screen flickers again and my laptop comes back but the

monitor does nothing(orange light). I can however, bring my cursor passed the

LCD to where the monitor "is" but it's not lit so no joy there. If I let the

time run out on the dialog everything goes back to normal. No harm no foul. If I

play with any of the kbd combo keys to force the external monitor gnome-shell

freaks out and I'm forced to recover using the console. The only thing I can

successfully accomplish is Fn+F5 resulting in the external monitor only-type

setup. Recovering from that without restarting X is not possible. If I toggle

back to my LCD the screen flickers and spins. Same goes for disconnecting the

VGA cable. At this point I can't go back to the monitor either. I have no choice

but to open a console and restart Gnome-Shell. The odd time I can't even do that

and must power off(ouch! haven't had to do that in Linux for years)

>



> --*Thanks,

> Phil

>

>

Hi Phil -



I had some similar problems with FC16 on an HP laptop with the i915 chip set. *X

still starts goofy with an external monitor attached but a simple:



xrandr --output VGA1 --left-of LVDS1



sorts out how much of the display should be on each monitor.



The trivial oddity that I have is that, for some reason, this laptop monitor

always comes up at zero brightness. *Have you tried adjusting the screen

brightness on the laptop once everything is up? *I have to wait until X is up

for this to work. *The text output from booting goes to the external monitor and

I can pound on the laptop's screen brightness key and nothing happens. *After X

starts, it behaves as expected. *This drove me nuts getting FC16 working since

there weren't any errors; just no display.



I'm running FC16 from a bootable, external hard disk. *The i915 laptop is in my

office and I have an older HP laptop with an ATI chipset at home. *I boot the

home laptop from the external hard disk and the display is duplicated until X

starts and then I get the same slightly goofy overlap I see on my work laptop.

A slightly different xrandr (xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS) sorts out

those displays.



A couple of other suggestions are to turn off graphical boot and quiet mode so

you can see what's going on as the system boots. *Also, switch to booting in the

equivalent to runlevel 3 (multiuser target) and then start X from the command

line with startx.



Cheers,

Dave



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Thanks Dave! your suggestions haven't lead to a solution
(yet) but I finally, finally found an error msg I can report back...
When I connect the monitor I get this[4] and this[5]. Hopefully this gives someone the proverbial light bulb effect. All it tells me is that well, the monitor isn't powering on, which I already knew all too well Just to reiterate, I can force the external on with the kbd shortcut but the results are that I loose my LCD. The goal here is*achieving*dual display and not just external. btw there are more EDID errors just don't know if they're relevant or not.



Do we thinks me have enough to post a bug or do me needs more nfo?
filed this[6] today. We'll see what comes form it.*

references(seem to have lost me original refs...anyway):[4][drm:intel_lvds_enable] *ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on
[5][drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID checksum is invalid, remainder is 16
[6]*Bug 846365*

Just upgraded to kernel 3.5+ and finally my external monitor works! I'm still stuck within 2048 horizontally but at this point I'm okay with that
Phil
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