Am 16.07.2012 02:14, schrieb Martín Marqués:
> I had a problem with my main board and CPU and had to buy a new one.
> Also memory, as the old computer had DDR2 memory.
>
> Th problem is that I see only 3.5Gb of memory, while I had a 4Gb bank
> put in the Motherboard (the motherboard says it can handle up to 32Gb
> or ram).
sounds like you installed i686 instead x86_64
32bit OS is bad for modern computers
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07-16-2012, 12:33 AM
Thomas Cameron
Memory on new computer
On 07/15/2012 07:14 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
I had a problem with my main board and CPU and had to buy a new one.
Also memory, as the old computer had DDR2 memory.
Th problem is that I see only 3.5Gb of memory, while I had a 4Gb bank
put in the Motherboard (the motherboard says it can handle up to 32Gb
or ram).
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/linux-kernel-doesnt-see-all-my-ram-923078/
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There are several possible factors:
1) Integrated video card, which uses system memory.
2) Peripheral devices I/O regions are mapped below 4 GB, shadowing the
physical ram.
Here is (old, but still valid) explanation given by IBM for their
servers: https://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-4E4RRF
and here's the same issue addressed by Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978610
I did not manage to find Red Hat's take on the issue.
In short: Works as designed. You may try to disable devices you do not
use to salvage some address space, but you won't reach 4096 MB
available.
I had a problem with my main board and CPU and had to buy a new one.
Also memory, as the old computer had DDR2 memory.
Th problem is that I see only 3.5Gb of memory, while I had a 4Gb bank
put in the Motherboard (the motherboard says it can handle up to 32Gb
or ram).
sounds like you installed i686 instead x86_64
Hi Harald,
are you sure? I have the same problem with an ASROCK board (Conroe
DVI/H): 4 GB mem installed (2x2GB bars), and only 3.34 G available.
And: I'm running *F17/x86_64*.
> 32bit OS is bad for modern computers
Kind regards
Joachim Backes
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07-16-2012, 03:32 PM
Alan Cox
Memory on new computer
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 02:16:01 +0200
Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>
> Am 16.07.2012 02:14, schrieb Martín Marqués:
> > I had a problem with my main board and CPU and had to buy a new one.
> > Also memory, as the old computer had DDR2 memory.
> >
> > Th problem is that I see only 3.5Gb of memory, while I had a 4Gb bank
> > put in the Motherboard (the motherboard says it can handle up to 32Gb
> > or ram).
>
> sounds like you installed i686 instead x86_64
A 32bit kernel can still handle more than 4GB of RAM on most processors
as they have page address extensions. That depends on the build options.
More likely perhaps some hardware doesn't support remapping so it cannot
move the other 0.5GB above the 4GB boundary to leave space for PCI etc,
so just loses it.
Alan
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07-16-2012, 03:37 PM
Mark Haney
Memory on new computer
On 07/16/2012 11:28 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
are you sure? I have the same problem with an ASROCK board (Conroe
DVI/H): 4 GB mem installed (2x2GB bars), and only 3.34 G available.
And: I'm running *F17/x86_64*.
> 32bit OS is bad for modern computers
Kind regards
Joachim Backes
I don't have that problem and I run an ASRock board with 2x2GB bars and
I see all 4GB on mine. And yes it is x86_64.
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07-16-2012, 04:36 PM
Martín Marqués
Memory on new computer
2012/7/15 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net>:
>
>
> Am 16.07.2012 02:14, schrieb Martín Marqués:
>> I had a problem with my main board and CPU and had to buy a new one.
>> Also memory, as the old computer had DDR2 memory.
>>
>> Th problem is that I see only 3.5Gb of memory, while I had a 4Gb bank
>> put in the Motherboard (the motherboard says it can handle up to 32Gb
>> or ram).
>
> sounds like you installed i686 instead x86_64
> 32bit OS is bad for modern computers
$ uname -a
Linux endor.marques 3.4.4-4.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jul 5 20:01:38 UTC
2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Could it be that the Motherboard uses normal ram for the integrated
ati video device? There are 500Mb of video memory. Does it use normal
RAM? Are does the 500Mb less I have?
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9645
(prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 84c8
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 42
Region 0: Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Region 1: I/O ports at f000 [size=256]
Region 2: Memory at fef00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: radeon
Kernel modules: radeon
> Here is (old, but still valid) explanation given by IBM for their
> servers: https://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-4E4RRF
> and here's the same issue addressed by Microsoft:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978610
> I did not manage to find Red Hat's take on the issue.
I now about this. I had, 6 years ago an intel board which mapped
memory below the 4Gb so I had about 800Mb less. I was really
disappointed with intel, as it had no fix, so I decided to never by an
intel product ever.
> In short: Works as designed. You may try to disable devices you do not
> use to salvage some address space, but you won't reach 4096 MB
> available.
As I said, if that's the design, I will just look for another provider
of Motherboards and ditch ASUS with Intel.
I'm not an expert on reading lspci output, but ATI Device 9645 seems
to be the graphics engine in AMD A4 APUs. If it indeed is, then part
of system memory is used as graphics buffer. size=256M seems to
suggest that it has 256 MB allocated. Therefore, it might be
responsible for a large chunk of that missing 512 MB.
>
>> Here is (old, but still valid) explanation given by IBM for their
>> servers: https://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-4E4RRF
>> and here's the same issue addressed by Microsoft:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978610
>> I did not manage to find Red Hat's take on the issue.
>
> I now about this. I had, 6 years ago an intel board which mapped
> memory below the 4Gb so I had about 800Mb less. I was really
> disappointed with intel, as it had no fix, so I decided to never by an
> intel product ever.
>
>> In short: Works as designed. You may try to disable devices you do not
>> use to salvage some address space, but you won't reach 4096 MB
>> available.
>
> As I said, if that's the design, I will just look for another provider
> of Motherboards and ditch ASUS with Intel.
>
Seems that Asus has a bad day, as I just recently been bitten by the
PCI bridge bug on their Asus E45M1-M PRO board. I had better luck with
Gigabyte.
There are several possible factors:
1) Integrated video card, which uses system memory.
2) Peripheral devices I/O regions are mapped below 4 GB, shadowing the
physical ram.
Here is (old, but still valid) explanation given by IBM for their
servers: https://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-4E4RRF
and here's the same issue addressed by Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978610
I did not manage to find Red Hat's take on the issue.
In short: Works as designed. You may try to disable devices you do not
use to salvage some address space, but you won't reach 4096 MB
available.
This is well known issue. The missing space is occupied by the page table
index. When pages are 4k in size you need a lot of table entries to describe
a full 4 gigabytes, like a million of them. Linux seems to have optimized
this a little. Windows loses a bit more memory, if I recall correctly.
{^_^}
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