Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive::
F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives accessible to everyone? Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. Something like: /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Whoever said "Money can't buy friends" obviously never brought - - donuts to the office. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
Am 13.07.2012 22:39, schrieb Rick Stevens:
> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: >> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are >> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat >> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now >> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives >> accessible to everyone? > > Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. > Something like: > > /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 you do **not* want auto for external drives auto/noauto does not matter at all add it to fstab is simply enough with "defaults,noauto,users" even users can mount the drive permissions are done via fileystem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives accessible to everyone? Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. Something like: /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name changes it will still mount it correctly. blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add: UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 -vpk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä <fedora@guagua.fi> wrote:
> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: >>> >>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are >>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat >>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now >>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives >>> accessible to everyone? >> >> >> Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. >> Something like: >> >> /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 >> > I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name changes it > will still mount it correctly. > > blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add: > > UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 > If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is external USB drive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On 13.07.2012 23:15, Pasha R wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä <fedora@guagua.fi> wrote: >> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: >>>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are >>>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat >>>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now >>>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives >>>> accessible to everyone? >>> >>> Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. >>> Something like: >>> >>> /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 >>> >> I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name changes it >> will still mount it correctly. >> >> blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add: >> >> UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 >> > If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be > available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is > external USB drive. No, there is not such need. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
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Sent from my HTC EVO Designâ„¢ 4G from Boost Mobile ----- Reply message ----- From: "Rick Stevens" <ricks@alldigital.com> To: "Community support for Fedora users" <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Make external hard drive accessible to all users Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 4:39 pm On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: > F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are > mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat > inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now > inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives > accessible to everyone? Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. Something like: Â* Â* /path/to/device Â* Â*/mountpoint Â* Â*ext4 Â* Â* Â*defaults,auto Â* Â* 0 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital Â* Â*ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 Â* Â* Â* Â*ICQ: 22643734 Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*Yahoo: origrps2 - - Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*- - Â* Whoever said "Money can't buy friends" obviously never brought Â* - - Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*donuts to the office. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On 07/13/2012 02:37 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz issued this missive::
On 13.07.2012 23:15, Pasha R wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä <fedora@guagua.fi> wrote: On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives accessible to everyone? Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is included. Something like: /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name changes it will still mount it correctly. blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add: UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is external USB drive. No, there is not such need. Actually, there is. Pasha is right in that it'll work if the drive is plugged in at boot time as the mounting of items in /etc/fstab is done at boot. In reality, plug/unplug of devices is geared towards a workstation (which is why Fedora behaves the way it does). Pasha's thing is more what you'd expect in a server-oriented environment which is why I suggested what I did. If the device is going to be plugged in after boot and you don't want to require human intervention to actually mount the device, then rules need to be written for udev to monitor the USB device and perform the mount when the device is plugged in. udev rules work best on pluggable stuff when they're keyed against some immutable thing in the device being plugged in (e.g. a UUID on the filesystem). Unplugging the device and having udev unmount it can cause issues as you can't necessarily do a "umount" if the device (filesystem) is busy. Even "umount -f" only works on NFS volumes most of the time--not always. This is why you generally don't have easily-removable items in a server farm (it says here in small print). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - You possess a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On 14.07.2012 01:58, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 07/13/2012 02:37 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz issued this missive:: >> On 13.07.2012 23:15, Pasha R wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä >>> <fedora@guagua.fi> wrote: >>>> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote: >>>>> On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: >>>>>> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are >>>>>> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat >>>>>> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now >>>>>> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives >>>>>> accessible to everyone? >>>>> >>>>> Add the mount to /etc/fstab and make sure the "auto" option is >>>>> included. >>>>> Something like: >>>>> >>>>> /path/to/device /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 >>>>> >>>> I would use UUID as the device identifier so that if device name >>>> changes it >>>> will still mount it correctly. >>>> >>>> blkid /dev/sda1 will get you the uuid and then add: >>>> >>>> UUID=YOUR-UID /mountpoint ext4 defaults,auto 0 0 >>>> >>> If I understand correctly, this implies that device should be >>> available at boot time, which is not always the case, since it is >>> external USB drive. >> >> No, there is not such need. > > Actually, there is. Pasha is right in that it'll work if the drive is > plugged in at boot time as the mounting of items in /etc/fstab is done > at boot. In reality, plug/unplug of devices is geared towards a > workstation (which is why Fedora behaves the way it does). Pasha's > thing is more what you'd expect in a server-oriented environment which > is why I suggested what I did. > Sorry but I checked that and I can't agree with you. I added following line to /etc/fstab: UUID="25da1476-a0a4-4b87-8afb-8f0ddb128b18" /mnt ext4 defaults 0 0 The uuid is of my flash card (removable storage). Then when I plugged in the card, it hasn't been mounted automatically. I had to issued: mount /mnt and umount /mnt manually. This is exactly what I was talking about. It works in Fedora 17. So you can mount shared storage not only at boot time. /etc/fstab is not only proceeded at boot time! Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 23:25 +0300, Pasha R wrote:
> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are > mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat > inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now > inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives > accessible to everyone? You didn't say what filing system you were using on that drive. If it's a foreign one, that doesn't have user IDs on it as used by Fedora, then I'd expect it to be mounted as you say. If it's a native one, then I'd expect it to be mounted with the usual user & group ownerships. For multiuser external drives, my usual approach was to make sub-directories in it that were owned by users on the system, or a shared sub-directory, but not to use the root of the drive. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
Make external hard drive accessible to all users
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 23:25 +0300, Pasha R wrote: >> F17 introduced a change to how external drives are mounted. They are >> mounted now exclusively to a logged on user. This is somewhat >> inconvenient, because iso images stored on external drive is now >> inaccessible to virtual machines. Is it possible to make drives >> accessible to everyone? > > You didn't say what filing system you were using on that drive. If it's > a foreign one, that doesn't have user IDs on it as used by Fedora, then > I'd expect it to be mounted as you say. If it's a native one, then I'd > expect it to be mounted with the usual user & group ownerships. For > multiuser external drives, my usual approach was to make sub-directories > in it that were owned by users on the system, or a shared sub-directory, > but not to use the root of the drive. > All external drives I use formatted as NTFS - this provides compatibility with windows boxes and allows me to store large files. Also, I'm the only user of the computer, so, multi-seat security is irrelevant to me. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org |
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