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Old 07-08-2012, 08:06 PM
Edward M
 
Default Hardware vendors

On 07/08/2012 09:42 AM, Steven Stern wrote:

Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on Ohava, zareason,
and System76. The quotes come out with insignificant dollar differences.
Do you have any experience with these vendors?

A few comments;

1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.
2) I plan to install Fedora 17
3) Looking at a quad core i5-3550, 8GB memory, standard "intel advanced
graphics" rather than a more expensive Radeon card.
4) 500GB SATA disk
5) mini- or mid-tower case

probably Los Alamos Computers may do.

They specialize in linux and their regular customers include
NASA / Jet Propulsion Lab, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Caltech, Yale
School of Medicine,
Lockheed Martin, United Technologies, several U.S. government
agencies, and many more


http://laclinux.com/en/Linux_Computers
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:15 PM
Matthew Saltzman
 
Default Hardware vendors

On Sun, 2012-07-08 at 12:42 -0400, Steven Stern wrote:
> My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its last legs, so I thought it
> time to find something new:
>
> 07/07/2012 11:57:40AM Agent (Sagar A): "Hi Steve"
> 07/07/2012 11:57:42AM Agent (Sagar A): "Welcome to Dell US Chat! My name
> is Sagar Andreas and I will be your Dell.com Sales Chat Expert.I can be
> reached at sagar_andreas@dell.com or via phone at
> *******-*******-*******-******* ext. ******* . How may I help you today?"
> 07/07/2012 11:58:25AM steve: "I'm pricing out desktop computers. I plan
> to install Linux. I don't see an option to select "no operating system".
> Is there a way NOT to pay for Windows?"
> 07/07/2012 11:58:48AM Agent (Sagar A): "Its my pleasure to have you on
> my chat line today. I'd be more than happy to assist you."
> 07/07/2012 11:59:38AM Agent (Sagar A): "Steve i am so sorry we dont have
> any systems which comes with Linux as call comes with windows OS"
> 07/07/2012 12:00:01PM steve: "That's a shame. I guess I'm done buying
> Dells."
> 07/07/2012 12:01:01PM steve: "bye"
> 07/07/2012 12:01:44PM Agent (Sagar A): "i am so sorry ..."
> 07/07/2012 12:01:48PM Agent (Sagar A): "Is there anything else that I
> can help you with?"
>
> Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on Ohava, zareason,
> and System76. The quotes come out with insignificant dollar differences.
> Do you have any experience with these vendors?
>
> A few comments;
>
> 1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.
> 2) I plan to install Fedora 17
> 3) Looking at a quad core i5-3550, 8GB memory, standard "intel advanced
> graphics" rather than a more expensive Radeon card.
> 4) 500GB SATA disk
> 5) mini- or mid-tower case

I don't know the above-mentioned vendors, but I've had good experiences
with aslab.com. They were one of the early Linux specialist vendors. I
bought my first system from them in the mid-1990s with Red Hat Linux
3.0.3 and my most recent system two years ago.

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Old 07-08-2012, 09:34 PM
Bruce Byfield
 
Default Hardware vendors

> On Sun, 2012-07-08 at 12:42 -0400, Steven Stern wrote:



> > 1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.

*

In any reasonable-sized city, you should be able to find a local computer store that specializes in customized workstations. Just come in with your specs and brand preferences, and the store will do the rest for you.

*

It's been twenty years since I've bought a workstation any other way, and I've never had any problems, or paid significantly more. But I appreciate knowing exactly what goes into my machines, and being able to talk face to face if any problems come up.

*

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Old 07-08-2012, 09:37 PM
"Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I"
 
Default Hardware vendors

On 07/08/2012 12:42 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its last legs, so I thought it
time to find something new:

07/07/2012 11:57:40AM Agent (Sagar A): "Hi Steve"
07/07/2012 11:57:42AM Agent (Sagar A): "Welcome to Dell US Chat! My name
is Sagar Andreas and I will be your Dell.com Sales Chat Expert.I can be
reached at sagar_andreas@dell.com or via phone at
*******-*******-*******-******* ext. ******* . How may I help you today?"
07/07/2012 11:58:25AM steve: "I'm pricing out desktop computers. I plan
to install Linux. I don't see an option to select "no operating system".
Is there a way NOT to pay for Windows?"
07/07/2012 11:58:48AM Agent (Sagar A): "Its my pleasure to have you on
my chat line today. I'd be more than happy to assist you."
07/07/2012 11:59:38AM Agent (Sagar A): "Steve i am so sorry we dont have
any systems which comes with Linux as call comes with windows OS"
07/07/2012 12:00:01PM steve: "That's a shame. I guess I'm done buying
Dells."
07/07/2012 12:01:01PM steve: "bye"
07/07/2012 12:01:44PM Agent (Sagar A): "i am so sorry ..."
07/07/2012 12:01:48PM Agent (Sagar A): "Is there anything else that I
can help you with?"

Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on Ohava, zareason,
and System76. The quotes come out with insignificant dollar differences.
Do you have any experience with these vendors?

A few comments;

1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.
2) I plan to install Fedora 17
3) Looking at a quad core i5-3550, 8GB memory, standard "intel advanced
graphics" rather than a more expensive Radeon card.
4) 500GB SATA disk
5) mini- or mid-tower case





My sister purchased a laptop from System76, this was about 2 years ago,
and it's still alive & kicking with Ubuntu on it. Even though it's not a
desktop, she DID have to call Customer Service in order to find out what
happened to the case that she ordered with it, and they were very
polite, professional, and QUICK! As for the laptop of itself, it's still
just as fast and efficient as when she got it!....hope this helps!...



EGO II
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:26 PM
Richard Vickery
 
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On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I <eoconnor25@gmail.com> wrote:



On 07/08/2012 12:42 PM, Steven Stern wrote:


My 7 year old Dell Dimension 8400 is on its last legs, so I thought it

time to find something new:



07/07/2012 11:57:40AM Agent (Sagar A): "Hi Steve"

07/07/2012 11:57:42AM Agent (Sagar A): "Welcome to Dell US Chat! My name

is Sagar Andreas and I will be your Dell.com Sales Chat Expert.I can be

reached at sagar_andreas@dell.com or via phone at

*******-*******-*******-******* ext. ******* . How may I help you today?"

07/07/2012 11:58:25AM steve: "I'm pricing out desktop computers. I plan

to install Linux. I don't see an option to select "no operating system".

Is there a way NOT to pay for Windows?"

07/07/2012 11:58:48AM Agent (Sagar A): "Its my pleasure to have you on

my chat line today. I'd be more than happy to assist you."

07/07/2012 11:59:38AM Agent (Sagar A): "Steve i am so sorry we dont have

any systems which comes with Linux as call comes with windows OS"

07/07/2012 12:00:01PM steve: "That's a shame. I guess I'm done buying

Dells."

07/07/2012 12:01:01PM steve: "bye"

07/07/2012 12:01:44PM Agent (Sagar A): "i am so sorry ..."

07/07/2012 12:01:48PM Agent (Sagar A): "Is there anything else that I

can help you with?"



Now that I'm done with Dell, I've priced out systems on Ohava, zareason,

and System76. The quotes come out with insignificant dollar differences.

Do you have any experience with these vendors?



A few comments;



1) No, I don't want to assemble my own machine from parts.

2) I plan to install Fedora 17

3) Looking at a quad core i5-3550, 8GB memory, standard "intel advanced

graphics" rather than a more expensive Radeon card.

4) 500GB SATA disk

5) mini- or mid-tower case










My sister purchased a laptop from System76, this was about 2 years ago, and it's still alive & kicking with Ubuntu on it. Even though it's not a desktop, she DID have to call Customer Service in order to find out what happened to the case that she ordered with it, and they were very polite, professional, and QUICK! As for the laptop of itself, it's still just as fast and efficient as when she got it!....hope this helps!...






EGO II

The only way to get a Dell with Ubuntu installed is/was to call them up from inside the US.*I got mine in this manner; mind you, this was 5-6 years ago.

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:42 PM
Dave Ihnat
 
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Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 02:26:01PM -0700--Richard Vickery (richard.vickeryrv@gmail.com) said:
> The only way to get a Dell with Ubuntu installed is/was to call them up
> from inside the US. I got mine in this manner; mind you, this was 5-6 years
> ago.

They don't, AFAIK, pre-install any version of Linux. But they do have a
full line of machines that come with no OS installed (well, I think there may
be a copy of FreeDOS.) Look at the 'N' series machines.

Canonical is still trumpeting its 'partnership' with Dell:

http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell

And as of May, they were pushing something called Sputnik as an
experimental project to produce Linux laptops:

http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/new-dell-ubuntu-ultrabooks-a-step-in-the-right-direction-for-linux-support/

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Old 07-10-2012, 12:47 PM
John Aldrich
 
Default Hardware vendors

Quoting Dave Ihnat <dihnat@dminet.com>:

They don't, AFAIK, pre-install any version of Linux. But they do have a
full line of machines that come with no OS installed (well, I think there may
be a copy of FreeDOS.) Look at the 'N' series machines.

Canonical is still trumpeting its 'partnership' with Dell:

http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell

And as of May, they were pushing something called Sputnik as an
experimental project to produce Linux laptops:


http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/new-dell-ubuntu-ultrabooks-a-step-in-the-right-direction-for-linux-support/


Dell *does* have Linux pre-installed on business machines, but not on
"home" machines. You have to step up to the "N" series as Dave
suggested.

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