On 09.07.2012, Heinz Diehl wrote:

> Mutt is a console/textbased MUA, see http://www.mutt.org .
> It is highly customizeable/configurable, but for the most common cases
> you want to run a local mailserver and POP3-client (e.g. fetchmail)
> to be able to use it fully.

You can see three snapshots here:

http://www.fritha.org/muttX.png

Replace the "X" with either 1, 2 or 3.

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On 09.07.2012, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:

> Hmmm....I guess it's because I've never used something like it, but I
> imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text based?

It's actually quite easy, I just need my right hand and nothing else.
This is freely configurable, you can write all the keyboard commands
on your own and navigate as you like.

> icons to click on for deleting messages?

"D" -> "x" (delete, purge)

> no drag-and-drop features?.....I

I don't need it ;-)

> think only a DIE hard techie would opt for such a thing! I cannot see the
> reason for or a situation where something like that would come in
> handy!....curious!

You don't know what you miss, he he :-)

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On 07/08/2012 06:30 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:

On 09.07.2012, Heinz Diehl wrote:


Mutt is a console/textbased MUA, see http://www.mutt.org .
It is highly customizeable/configurable, but for the most common cases
you want to run a local mailserver and POP3-client (e.g. fetchmail)
to be able to use it fully.

You can see three snapshots here:

http://www.fritha.org/muttX.png

Replace the "X" with either 1, 2 or 3.

WOW!.....it looks weird....yet kinda cool too!....I might have to delve
into this a little more.....just to find out....LoL!



EGO II

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On 07/08/2012 06:37 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:

On 09.07.2012, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:


Hmmm....I guess it's because I've never used something like it, but I
imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text based?

It's actually quite easy, I just need my right hand and nothing else.
This is freely configurable, you can write all the keyboard commands
on your own and navigate as you like.


icons to click on for deleting messages?

"D" -> "x" (delete, purge)


no drag-and-drop features?.....I

I don't need it ;-)


think only a DIE hard techie would opt for such a thing! I cannot see the
reason for or a situation where something like that would come in
handy!....curious!

You don't know what you miss, he he :-)



Well I will DEFINITELY be looking into this just like I did when I first
started testing the waters when beginning to discover Linux! Thanx for
the info!



EGO II
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Once, long ago--actually, on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 06:27:25PM -0400--Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I (eoconnor25@gmail.com) said:
> Hmmm....I guess it's because I've never used something like it, but
> I imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text
> based?....no icons to click on for deleting messages? no
> drag-and-drop features?.....

Well, it's text-based menu driven, e.g., you use the cursor keys or VI
command keys (hjkl), messages can be displayed in threads, etc. Not mouse
oriented, but still not _that_ primitive.

> ...I think only a DIE hard techie would opt
> for such a thing! I cannot see the reason for or a situation where
> something like that would come in handy!....curious!

It's probably not something many people would pick up today, but it's got
real advantages if you need them. It's incredibly flexible, especially for
handling huge numbers of messages. It's almost impossible to inadvertently
open a bad URL, since they're displayed for you in text mode; but you can
view HTML mail if you wish.

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On 07/08/2012 07:18 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:

Once, long ago--actually, on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 06:27:25PM -0400--Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I (eoconnor25@gmail.com) said:

Hmmm....I guess it's because I've never used something like it, but
I imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text
based?....no icons to click on for deleting messages? no
drag-and-drop features?.....

Well, it's text-based menu driven, e.g., you use the cursor keys or VI
command keys (hjkl), messages can be displayed in threads, etc. Not mouse
oriented, but still not _that_ primitive.


...I think only a DIE hard techie would opt
for such a thing! I cannot see the reason for or a situation where
something like that would come in handy!....curious!

It's probably not something many people would pick up today, but it's got
real advantages if you need them. It's incredibly flexible, especially for
handling huge numbers of messages. It's almost impossible to inadvertently
open a bad URL, since they're displayed for you in text mode; but you can
view HTML mail if you wish.

Cheers,
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dihnat@dminet.com
Cool! Thank you all for the info....I'm in the process of trying to
"upgrade" myself.......learn a programming language...(stuck trying to
decide if I want to go the C, C#, C++ route...or the Python
way)!.....any tips there?...



EGO II

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On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 06:27:25PM -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> On 07/08/2012 04:37 PM, Edward M wrote:
> >On 07/08/2012 01:27 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> >>If I may?...exactly what IS "mutt"?....is it something I should
> >>concern myself with?
> >
> > mutt is a text based email client.
> >
> Hmmm....I guess it's because I've never used something like it, but
> I imagine it's pretty hard to move around in if it's all text
> based?....no icons to click on for deleting messages? no
> drag-and-drop features?.....I think only a DIE hard techie would opt
> for such a thing! I cannot see the reason for or a situation where
> something like that would come in handy!....curious!
>
>
> EGO II

I've been using mutt for years as my only email client, and I can tell you
from personal experience that mutt is _much_ faster to get around in and
read and process mail than one with a gui. In fact, that's it's chief
selling point.

The downside of mutt is that it has a rather steep learning curve, but that
only lasts a lil while, and it doesn't have built in filtering; you have to
filter your mail on the server side, or with a program like procmail. Some
might say you can't read html and see pictures inline, but I think that's a
plus!

Terry

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On 07/08/2012 06:07 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
(stuck trying to decide if I want to go the C, C#, C++ route...or the
Python way)!.....any tips there?...


when I went to vist some people i knew from ixsystems, freebsd
foundation, netbsd project couple months ago
I brought up that i wanted to get into programming and which would
be the best language
for a noob, self taught, like myself, they recommened python because
it is simple to learn and it teaches programming concepts,etc
i went with their advice and went with python 3. Iam currently
reading

Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner, 3rd Edition. great book.
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On 09.07.2012, ny6p01@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been using mutt for years as my only email client, and I can tell you
> from personal experience that mutt is _much_ faster to get around in and
> read and process mail than one with a gui. In fact, that's it's chief
> selling point.

And it has by far the best threading I've seen in my whole life.

> The downside of mutt is that it has a rather steep learning curve, but that
> only lasts a lil while, and it doesn't have built in filtering; you have to
> filter your mail on the server side, or with a program like
> procmail.

There are a lot of filters; maildrop, mailfilter.. Though procmail
seems not to be maintained anymore, I'm using it, because I have
experience in writing procmail recipes and have been using it all my
life. You can feed your mail into perl/python/whatever-scripts
directly from procmail.

My incoming mailchain is fetchmail -> procmail -> perl/CRM114 -> mutt.
F*ck me, writing all this makes me realize that I'm getting old :-)

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On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 08:48:09AM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:

> There are a lot of filters; maildrop, mailfilter.. Though procmail
> seems not to be maintained anymore, I'm using it, because I have
> experience in writing procmail recipes and have been using it all my
> life. You can feed your mail into perl/python/whatever-scripts
> directly from procmail.
>
> My incoming mailchain is fetchmail -> procmail -> perl/CRM114 -> mutt.
> F*ck me, writing all this makes me realize that I'm getting old

For those who have 'simple' (mostly text) mail needs I can
still recommend mutt.

At work it was handy to filter and stream incoming mail into
diferent mailboxes and I used fetchmail -> procmail -> mutt in
a postfix context.

Now I am retired I have simple mail needs and I just use the
built in pop3 and smtp facilities of mutt.

And nothing beats mutt in ease of use and versatility once you
are used to it.

AV

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