Am 29.06.2012 16:28, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 04:07:27PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> where is any single benfit in creating a local repo
>> to put the one-shot RPMs compared between
>>
>> "yum install localfile.rpm"
>
> yum localinstall [--nogpg] file.rpm [1]
>
>> or
>> "yum install --nogpgcheck localfile.rpm"
>>
>> ????
>>
>> there is no difference from any point of view
>
>
> [1] - for some, the square brackets aren't a part of the commandline but
> just indicate an optional parameter...and the [1] is just a foot note to
> read this at that point in the text and is also not part of the command
> line.

"localinstall" and "localupdate" is not needed since a very very long time


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On 06/29/2012 03:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 29.06.2012 15:53, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:
>> On 06/29/2012 02:31 PM, Mark Haney wrote:
>>> I've googled this a couple of times, but can't seem to find a straight answer on this problem. I installed the
>>> rpmfusion repos both with the GUI and from the CLI and I get this same problem, 'Cannot find valid baseurl'.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>> The following is my recommendation for installing RPMs not available in your currently
>> available repositories.
>>
>> I downloaded the 2 setup RPMs from the RPMFusion website, then using createrepo I created my own repository, and
>> the required yum config file in /etc/yum.repos.d, (root privileges required)
>>
>> local.repo
>>
>> [MyRepo]
>> name=Local repo Fedora upgrade $releasever
>> baseurl=file:/home/user/MyRepo/RPMs$releasever/
>> enabled=0
>> gpgcheck=0
>>
>>
>> The above configures the local repository for Fedora 17 should be in directory
>>
>> /home/user/MyRep/RPMs17
>>
>> Then using yumex, enabling the local repo I selected the RPMFusion config RPMs for installation,
>> and then apply. You will then find an updated RPMFusion config RPM that needs to be updated.
>> After that RPMFusion should be up and working
> FIRST:
> pelase get rid of HTML messages on mailing-lists
> especially whith 20px letters!
>
> where is any single benfit in creating a local repo
> to put the one-shot RPMs compared between
>
> "yum install localfile.rpm"
> or
> "yum install --nogpgcheck localfile.rpm"
>
> ????
>
> there is no difference from any point of view
>
>
>
>
I then find it puzzling that you're having problems, the method I
outlined worked for me on both
Fedora 16 and Fedora 17. Apparently there is something different with
your method, and it causes you a problem for reasons I don't know, so
perhaps trying a different method can't do any harm surely.

cpp4ever

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Am 29.06.2012 17:08, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:
> On 06/29/2012 03:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> where is any single benfit in creating a local repo
>> to put the one-shot RPMs compared between
>>
>> "yum install localfile.rpm"
>> or
>> "yum install --nogpgcheck localfile.rpm"
>>
>> ????
>>
>> there is no difference from any point of view
>>
>>
> I then find it puzzling that you're having problems

i find it puzzling that you believe i have problems
how comes? my systems are working since many years
on many many fedora setups and a local repo was never
a solution for anything

> the method I outlined worked for me on both Fedora 16 and Fedora 17

which does not mean that the overhead of your method
has any benefit

> Apparently there is something different with
> your method, and it causes you a problem for
> reasons I don't know,

again: how comes that you think i have any sproblem?

> so perhaps trying a different method can't do any harm surely

knowing how yum and rpm is working is enough to qualify
snakeoil like a local repo to solve "no valid baseurl"
for a remote repo as useless

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On 06/29/2012 08:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 29.06.2012 17:08, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:
>> On 06/29/2012 03:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> where is any single benfit in creating a local repo
>>> to put the one-shot RPMs compared between
>>>
>>> "yum install localfile.rpm"
>>> or
>>> "yum install --nogpgcheck localfile.rpm"
>>>
>>> ????
>>>
>>> there is no difference from any point of view
>>>
>>>
>> I then find it puzzling that you're having problems
> i find it puzzling that you believe i have problems
> how comes? my systems are working since many years
> on many many fedora setups and a local repo was never
> a solution for anything

Well that doesn't mean it never will be, does it? I use a shared local
repo on my LAN so I can update multiple machines without downloading the
same RPMs multiple times.

>
>> the method I outlined worked for me on both Fedora 16 and Fedora 17
> which does not mean that the overhead of your method
> has any benefit

Have you even tried it?

>
>> Apparently there is something different with
>> your method, and it causes you a problem for
>> reasons I don't know,
> again: how comes that you think i have any sproblem?

You do have a problem, an invalid url in a yum configuration for
RPMFusion when trying to configure using the supplied
setup RPM

>
>> so perhaps trying a different method can't do any harm surely
> knowing how yum and rpm is working is enough to qualify
> snakeoil like a local repo to solve "no valid baseurl"
> for a remote repo as useless

How does a local repo qualify has snakeoil? You appear to be quick to
dismiss it for what I consider very flimsy reasoning that in reality
amounts to your preferred methods.

From what I can gather that failed url came about by using yum and the
RPM supplied by RPMFusion

Well I have had no url problem by using the RPMFusion supplied for
Fedora 16/17 x64 configuration RPM and you have. It also appears that
this does not appear to be a problem for the vast majority of users. So
what harm is there in trying a different approach?

It is certainly possible the RPM you downloaded has been corrupted, and
if it was a problem from RPMFusion I think many more people would be
having your url problem.

If all else fails RPMFusion provides links to their repositories, as
well as the required urls so you could set them up manually.

Well, all the best, and I hope you resolve the problem, and better still
discover what caused it.

cpp4ever

>
>
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Am 29.06.2012 22:05, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:
>> how comes? my systems are working since many years
>> on many many fedora setups and a local repo was never
>> a solution for anything
>
> Well that doesn't mean it never will be, does it?

it will never be a solution in case of the OP's problem

> I use a shared local repo on my LAN so I can update multiple machines
> without downloading the same RPMs multiple times.

this is a different topic

i have installed a local cache-repo in my compamny many years ago
on a dediacted build/update/admin-VM and all other machines have only
this machine as package-source, but as said: this has nothing to do
with the OP's problem

>>> the method I outlined worked for me on both Fedora 16 and Fedora 17
>> which does not mean that the overhead of your method
>> has any benefit
>
> Have you even tried it?

my god why should i try to put rpmfusion repo-packages
ina local one for a one-shot install?

>> again: how comes that you think i have any sproblem?
>
> You do have a problem, an invalid url in a yum configuration for
> RPMFusion when trying to configure using the supplied
> setup RPM

jesus christ I HAVE NO SINGLE PROBLEM
teh OP has a problem and your suggestion is no solution for him

> How does a local repo qualify has snakeoil? You appear to be quick to
> dismiss it for what I consider very flimsy reasoning that in reality
> amounts to your preferred methods.
>
> From what I can gather that failed url came about by using yum and the
> RPM supplied by RPMFusion

how would put the rpmudison package sin a local repo
change them?

> It is certainly possible the RPM you downloaded has been corrupted, and
> if it was a problem from RPMFusion I think many more people would

and how would a local-repo as you suggestet where
you put the corrupted files in change this?


> Well, all the best, and I hope you resolve the problem, and better still
> discover what caused it.

again: you should read more careful who is repsonding what to
you and who has problems or not :-)

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On 06/29/2012 09:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 29.06.2012 22:05, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:
>>> how comes? my systems are working since many years
>>> on many many fedora setups and a local repo was never
>>> a solution for anything
>> Well that doesn't mean it never will be, does it?
> it will never be a solution in case of the OP's problem
>
>> I use a shared local repo on my LAN so I can update multiple machines
>> without downloading the same RPMs multiple times.
> this is a different topic
>
> i have installed a local cache-repo in my compamny many years ago
> on a dediacted build/update/admin-VM and all other machines have only
> this machine as package-source, but as said: this has nothing to do
> with the OP's problem
>
>>>> the method I outlined worked for me on both Fedora 16 and Fedora 17
>>> which does not mean that the overhead of your method
>>> has any benefit
>> Have you even tried it?
> my god why should i try to put rpmfusion repo-packages
> ina local one for a one-shot install?
>
>>> again: how comes that you think i have any sproblem?
>> You do have a problem, an invalid url in a yum configuration for
>> RPMFusion when trying to configure using the supplied
>> setup RPM
> jesus christ I HAVE NO SINGLE PROBLEM
> teh OP has a problem and your suggestion is no solution for him
>
>> How does a local repo qualify has snakeoil? You appear to be quick to
>> dismiss it for what I consider very flimsy reasoning that in reality
>> amounts to your preferred methods.
>>
>> From what I can gather that failed url came about by using yum and the
>> RPM supplied by RPMFusion
> how would put the rpmudison package sin a local repo
> change them?
>
>> It is certainly possible the RPM you downloaded has been corrupted, and
>> if it was a problem from RPMFusion I think many more people would
> and how would a local-repo as you suggestet where
> you put the corrupted files in change this?
>
>
>> Well, all the best, and I hope you resolve the problem, and better still
>> discover what caused it.
> again: you should read more careful who is repsonding what to
> you and who has problems or not :-)
>
>
>
I make no apologies for trying to help, but it appears to be a futile
experience in this case. You are entitled to your opinion, as you are
entirely convinced that you have made yourself clear, well if that was
so, how come I have misunderstood the purpose of your post? More to the
point you make a post, apparently already knowing the answer, which does
seem rather pointless to me. But given we appear to talking at cross
purposes I doubt you will agree, or perhaps even understand.

cpp4ever



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Am 29.06.2012 22:35, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:
> I make no apologies for trying to help

nobody did say that

> but it appears to be a futile
> experience in this case. You are entitled to your opinion, as you are
> entirely convinced that you have made yourself clear, well if that was
> so, how come I have misunderstood the purpose of your post?

because you thought i am the OP while in fact i only
corrected your wrong advise put the rpmfusion-repo-packages
in a local repo and hope it will change anything

> More to the point you make a post, apparently already knowing the
> answer, which does seem rather pointless to me.

you STIL do not understand that I AM NOT the OP

i only corrected your technically useless advise download
the rpmfusion packages, put them in a folder, call createrepo
and create a local repo to this folder because it is completly
useless since it will not make any difference to install them
via "yum install", "yum localinstall" or "rpm -Uvh" or even
"rpm -Uvh --force http://rpmfusion..."

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On 06/29/2012 09:41 PM, Reindl Harald
wrote:





Am 29.06.2012 22:35, schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930:


I make no apologies for trying to help



nobody did say that



but it appears to be a futile
experience in this case. You are entitled to your opinion, as you are
entirely convinced that you have made yourself clear, well if that was
so, how come I have misunderstood the purpose of your post?



because you thought i am the OP while in fact i only
corrected your wrong advise put the rpmfusion-repo-packages
in a local repo and hope it will change anything



More to the point you make a post, apparently already knowing the
answer, which does seem rather pointless to me.



you STIL do not understand that I AM NOT the OP

i only corrected your technically useless advise download
the rpmfusion packages, put them in a folder, call createrepo
and create a local repo to this folder because it is completly
useless since it will not make any difference to install them
via "yum install", "yum localinstall" or "rpm -Uvh" or even
"rpm -Uvh --force http://rpmfusion..."








This is
futile, I'm no longer interested in understanding your position,
whatever it maybe. We clearly misunderstood each other and that
should be the end of it. Further talking at cross purposes
achieves nothing, so I no longer wish to continue doing so.





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On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:51 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
<n2xssvv.g02gfr12930@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> This is futile, I'm no longer interested in understanding your position,
> whatever it maybe.

It might on the other hand be worthwhile to see and understand your
own position.
You are the one thinking Reindl has a problem, while in fact he does
not, something he even points out by telling he is not the OP. I am
not meaning you should stop advising, but when doing so, do try to
keep track of who was actually having problems.

Reindl's question why one would prefer a localrepo, instead of a
localinstall was a quite valid one. Which you do not go into. That I
think exactly like Reindl in this case that this would have no benefit
whatsoever, is what makes me (and probably Reindl too) interested in
the answer to that question. Because if there is a benefit, we would
like to hear it, so we can improve our own knowledge.

So the question was not about bashing, or whatever, but an interest in
what might be the added value of a local repository versus simple
local packages for a one-shot install.

So, please, if you see that benefit, enlighten me, as I would really
like to learn it, if there is one.
(And note: we are talking about a one time install on one machine,
nothing needed to distribute among many.)

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On 06/30/2012 09:11 AM, Andre Speelmans
wrote:



On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:51 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
<n2xssvv.g02gfr12930@ntlworld.com> wrote:



This is futile, I'm no longer interested in understanding your position,
whatever it maybe.



It might on the other hand be worthwhile to see and understand your
own position.
You are the one thinking Reindl has a problem, while in fact he does
not, something he even points out by telling he is not the OP. I am
not meaning you should stop advising, but when doing so, do try to
keep track of who was actually having problems.

Reindl's question why one would prefer a localrepo, instead of a
localinstall was a quite valid one. Which you do not go into. That I
think exactly like Reindl in this case that this would have no benefit
whatsoever, is what makes me (and probably Reindl too) interested in
the answer to that question. Because if there is a benefit, we would
like to hear it, so we can improve our own knowledge.

So the question was not about bashing, or whatever, but an interest in
what might be the added value of a local repository versus simple
local packages for a one-shot install.

So, please, if you see that benefit, enlighten me, as I would really
like to learn it, if there is one.
(And note: we are talking about a one time install on one machine,
nothing needed to distribute among many.)



I refer
you to my previous post, but if you wish to waste your time on
this, feel free.





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