On 06/26/2012 12:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:



But, make sure you install wireshark and wireshark-gnome.... and make sure you add
yourself to the wireshark group.



That's very interesting. When I did the initial install (using sudo yum
install wireshark) this is what yum told me:



================================================== ================================================== =================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================== ================================================== =================================================
Installing:
wireshark x86_64 1.6.6-1.fc16 updates 10 M
Installing for dependencies:
libsmi x86_64 0.4.8-6.fc15 fedora 2.3 M

Transaction Summary
================================================== ================================================== =================================================
Install 1 Package (+1 Dependent package)


Apparently that doesn't install the binary for wireshark as I didn't get
that until I installed wireshark-gnome. Shoudn't this be a dependency
of wireshark? I am not sure I understand why wireshark-gnome is NOT a
dependency of wireshark.




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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:51:19 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:

> Apparently that doesn't install the binary for wireshark as I didn't get
> that until I installed wireshark-gnome. Shoudn't this be a dependency
> of wireshark? I am not sure I understand why wireshark-gnome is NOT a
> dependency of wireshark.

wireshark not only contains the backend libraries but also couple of tools
in /usr/sbin that can be used independently and without the GUI.

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On 06/27/2012 12:51 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
> Apparently that doesn't install the binary for wireshark as I didn't get that until
> I installed wireshark-gnome. Shoudn't this be a dependency of wireshark? I am not
> sure I understand why wireshark-gnome is NOT a dependency of wireshark.

Well......*maybe* it makes a "bit" more sense if one does a yum info on both....

Name : wireshark
Arch : i686
Version : 1.6.6
Release : 1.fc16
Size : 46 M
Repo : installed
From repo : updates
Summary : Network traffic analyzer
URL : http://www.wireshark.org/
License : GPL+
Description : Wireshark is a network traffic analyzer for Unix-ish operating
: systems.
:
: This package lays base for libpcap, a packet capture and filtering
: library, contains command-line utilities, contains plugins and
: documentation for wireshark. A graphical user interface is packaged
: separately to GTK+ package.


Name : wireshark-gnome
Arch : i686
Version : 1.6.6
Release : 1.fc16
Size : 2.2 M
Repo : installed
From repo : updates
Summary : Gnome desktop integration for wireshark
URL : http://www.wireshark.org/
License : GPL+
Description : Contains wireshark for Gnome 2 and desktop integration file



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Mark Haney wrote:

On 06/26/2012 12:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:



But, make sure you install wireshark and wireshark-gnome.... and make sure
you add
yourself to the wireshark group.



That's very interesting. When I did the initial install (using sudo yum install
wireshark) this is what yum told me:


================================================== ================================================== =================================================

Package Arch
Version Repository Size
================================================== ================================================== =================================================

Installing:
wireshark x86_64
1.6.6-1.fc16 updates 10 M
Installing for dependencies:
libsmi x86_64
0.4.8-6.fc15 fedora 2.3 M

Transaction Summary
================================================== ================================================== =================================================

Install 1 Package (+1 Dependent package)


Apparently that doesn't install the binary for wireshark as I didn't get that
until I installed wireshark-gnome. Shoudn't this be a dependency of wireshark?
I am not sure I understand why wireshark-gnome is NOT a dependency of wireshark.

Wireshark works fine without the GUI, but in a very limited fashion. The gnome
wrapper just lets you use it in a convenient manner.


Ed: I found that there is now a wireshark group, the first time I tried to use
it on fc17, Anyone have a good idea *why?* It's not that the unprivileged user
can just grab packets off an interface or anything, and while I don't see the
average user having a use for it, I've been wrong about that before, with
legitimate useful stuff being done by people I would not have suspected would
understand the capability, much less make use of it.


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