Hi!

I did a base (default) install from i686 DVD onto my netbook. it's
working fine, but...

it doesn't have any tools to configure any printers. so using "add/remove software" I searched for "printing" and it came up with an item "Printing Support"
and installed it.

but I still don't have any items in any of the menus to allow printer
configuration.

there is a package installed named system-config-printer-libs-1.3.9-1.fc17.i686
but it doesn't seem to contain anything obviously designed as an end-user UI
for configuring printers.

how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?

(I suppose I could fall back on browsing to port 630...)

thanks!

Fred

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On 06/21/2012 08:44 AM, fred smith wrote:
> how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?

Using GNOME?

You are supposed to follow the following route....

1. Click on your user name in the upper right.
2. Click on "System Settings"
3. Find and click on the "Printers" icon
4. Click on "Unlock"
5. Enter the appropriate password.
6. Click on "Add Printer"
.
.
.


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On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 20:44 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I did a base (default) install from i686 DVD onto my netbook. it's
> working fine, but...
>
> it doesn't have any tools to configure any printers. so using "add/remove software" I searched for "printing" and it came up with an item "Printing Support"
> and installed it.
>
> but I still don't have any items in any of the menus to allow printer
> configuration.
>
> there is a package installed named system-config-printer-libs-1.3.9-1.fc17.i686
> but it doesn't seem to contain anything obviously designed as an end-user UI
> for configuring printers.
>
> how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?

# yum install system-config-printer

If you have HP printers, you might prefer

# yum install hplip

>
> (I suppose I could fall back on browsing to port 630...)
>
> thanks!
>
> Fred
>

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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:56:42AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 08:44 AM, fred smith wrote:
> > how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?
>
> Using GNOME?
>
> You are supposed to follow the following route....
>
> 1. Click on your user name in the upper right.
> 2. Click on "System Settings"
> 3. Find and click on the "Printers" icon
> 4. Click on "Unlock"
> 5. Enter the appropriate password.
> 6. Click on "Add Printer"
> .
> .
> .

Ed:

thanks for the reply!

hmmm...

I was running Mate, but couldn't find that item anywhere in mate. I had
also looked in gnome and missed it.

so, ok, now I've found it. I unlock, start to add printer and get
a dialog that says:

"FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services
mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on the firewall."

I've been running Linux (fedora, RH, Centos) for years, so I hate
to sound so helpless but,... now that we're using systemd and this
new thing called firewalld I haven't a clue how to proceed.

[later] ok, it looks as if firewalld isn't installed. installing it
now. but don't know what to hack to make it startup. rebooted and
it still doesn't seem to be running.

further advice would be appreciated.

thanks again.

Fred

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On 06/21/2012 10:19 AM, fred smith wrote:
> Ed:
>
> thanks for the reply!
>
> hmmm...
>
> I was running Mate, but couldn't find that item anywhere in mate. I had
> also looked in gnome and missed it.
>
> so, ok, now I've found it. I unlock, start to add printer and get
> a dialog that says:
>
> "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services
> mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on the firewall."
>
> I've been running Linux (fedora, RH, Centos) for years, so I hate
> to sound so helpless but,... now that we're using systemd and this
> new thing called firewalld I haven't a clue how to proceed.
>
> [later] ok, it looks as if firewalld isn't installed. installing it
> now. but don't know what to hack to make it startup. rebooted and
> it still doesn't seem to be running.
>
> further advice would be appreciated.

Ahh, OK.... My "ignorance" is based on my being a KDE user with HP network
printers... :-)

Anyway I "see" the problem. The error message you are getting is confusing since
firewallD was supposed to be in F17 but was then pulled. Apparently, they didn't
"fix" the printer configuration dialog.

So.....

Run "system-config-firewall" (which should have been installed by default) and enable
the services/posts outlined in the firewallD message.

Also, erase firewallD. It is not ready for primetime.





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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:29:05AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 10:19 AM, fred smith wrote:
> > Ed:
> >
> > thanks for the reply!
> >
> > hmmm...
> >
> > I was running Mate, but couldn't find that item anywhere in mate. I had
> > also looked in gnome and missed it.
> >
> > so, ok, now I've found it. I unlock, start to add printer and get
> > a dialog that says:
> >
> > "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services
> > mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on the firewall."
> >
> > I've been running Linux (fedora, RH, Centos) for years, so I hate
> > to sound so helpless but,... now that we're using systemd and this
> > new thing called firewalld I haven't a clue how to proceed.
> >
> > [later] ok, it looks as if firewalld isn't installed. installing it
> > now. but don't know what to hack to make it startup. rebooted and
> > it still doesn't seem to be running.
> >
> > further advice would be appreciated.
>
> Ahh, OK.... My "ignorance" is based on my being a KDE user with HP network
> printers... :-)
>
> Anyway I "see" the problem. The error message you are getting is confusing since
> firewallD was supposed to be in F17 but was then pulled. Apparently, they didn't
> "fix" the printer configuration dialog.
>
> So.....
>
> Run "system-config-firewall" (which should have been installed by default) and enable
> the services/posts outlined in the firewallD message.
>
> Also, erase firewallD. It is not ready for primetime.

yeah. done. also installed some foomatic things and then when I chose
add printer it thought for a couple of minutes and found the printer
out on the LAN. it assigned the correct (or at least "A" correct)
driver to it and voila.

one odd thing, there doesn't seem to be any way to change printer
settings, resolution, etc. weird.

Ah. running system-config-printer (which I had to manually install) lets
me change resolution and numerous other things. strange that the add-printer
app doesn't.

well, at least it's now working. thanks for your patience, Ed!

Fred

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On 06/21/2012 11:08 AM, fred smith wrote:
> yeah. done. also installed some foomatic things and then when I chose
> add printer it thought for a couple of minutes and found the printer
> out on the LAN. it assigned the correct (or at least "A" correct)
> driver to it and voila.
>
> one odd thing, there doesn't seem to be any way to change printer
> settings, resolution, etc. weird.
>
> Ah. running system-config-printer (which I had to manually install) lets
> me change resolution and numerous other things. strange that the add-printer
> app doesn't.
>
> well, at least it's now working. thanks for your patience, Ed!

I've found the "best" way to alter printer settings is to use the browser and go to...

http://localhost:631/

And administer printer settings from there.....

Welcome.....


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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:13:13AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 11:08 AM, fred smith wrote:
> > yeah. done. also installed some foomatic things and then when I chose
> > add printer it thought for a couple of minutes and found the printer
> > out on the LAN. it assigned the correct (or at least "A" correct)
> > driver to it and voila.
> >
> > one odd thing, there doesn't seem to be any way to change printer
> > settings, resolution, etc. weird.
> >
> > Ah. running system-config-printer (which I had to manually install) lets
> > me change resolution and numerous other things. strange that the add-printer
> > app doesn't.
> >
> > well, at least it's now working. thanks for your patience, Ed!
>
> I've found the "best" way to alter printer settings is to use the browser and go to...
>
> http://localhost:631/
>
> And administer printer settings from there.....
>
> Welcome.....

yeah, I tried that too. but it didn't offer me a suitable printer driver,
and whatever I tried caused the printer to wake up but not to print.
of course, that was beforoe I thought to install the foomatic pkgs,
so maybe that's the reason it didn't work.

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On 06/21/2012 07:34 PM, fred smith wrote:
> yeah, I tried that too. but it didn't offer me a suitable printer driver,
> and whatever I tried caused the printer to wake up but not to print.
> of course, that was beforoe I thought to install the foomatic pkgs,
> so maybe that's the reason it didn't work.

Well.... What I really meant was that that would be the place to go to define
printer defaults such as paper size, quality, etc.... *after* the printer has been
configured by the other method.

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, fred smith <fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrote:

Hi!



I did a base (default) install from i686 DVD onto my netbook. it's

working fine, but...



it doesn't have any tools to configure any printers. so using "add/remove software" I searched for "printing" and it came up with an item "Printing Support"

and installed it.



but I still don't have any items in any of the menus to allow printer

configuration.



there is a package installed named system-config-printer-libs-1.3.9-1.fc17.i686

but it doesn't seem to contain anything obviously designed as an end-user UI

for configuring printers.



how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?



(I suppose I could fall back on browsing to port 630...)



thanks!



Fred



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If using an HP printer, go to the "Add/remove software", search for "hplip" and mark the two that are not installed for installation. I don't know if yum will work on this one. I have this challenge all the time when upgrading to the next version; I love the challenge knowing that, in Linux, the solution is relatively simple.
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