Hi

After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a resentment
way. made me wonder if
nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should
look into either amd,intel graphics instead or

he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?

linus presentation:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/18/torvalds_curses_nvidia/
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Am 18.06.2012 11:39, schrieb Edward M:
> After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a resentment way. made me wonder if
> nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should look into either amd,intel graphics instead or
> he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?

do NOT buy hardware which needs binary drivers

it makes always troubles with new fedra-versions or kernel-updates
it tends to make your ahrwdare unuseable if nvidia decides calling
your card "legacy" resulting in no longer working with the next
fedora-version with newer kernels or xorg versions

there are no good reasons for binary drivers


Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
the integrated graphics works jsut fine including KDE desktop effects


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On 18.06.2012 11:39, Edward M wrote:
> Hi
>
> After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a
> resentment way. made me wonder if
> nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should
> look into either amd,intel graphics instead or
> he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?
>
> linus presentation:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/18/torvalds_curses_nvidia/

I think that he knows best the level of involvement of companies like
nvidia in Linux kernel development. We have no reason not to believe him
about this. The problem is that video manufacturers, not only nvidia, do
not even care to provide good documentation so that devels can write
open source replacements for proprietary drivers.


Mateusz Marzantowicz
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On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 11:52 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> your card "legacy" resulting in no longer working with the next
> fedora-version with newer kernels or xorg versions

'tis the same if you use their hardware with the evil OS. Eventually it
becomes unsupported, and the /solution/ is to buy new hardware...

Which is a major financial pain if your video hardware is built into the
motherboard, uses an older-style AGP slot, or you're using a laptop.

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:39:01 -0700,
Edward M <edwardm1@live.com> wrote:


After viewing linus disagreeable remarks towards nvidia in a
resentment way. made me wonder if
nvidia linux support has been decreasing over the years and i should
look into either amd,intel graphics instead or

he is simply overreacting and nvidia support is not that bad?


What are you expecting out of your graphics card? Are you running graphics
intense games, CUDA, off-line rendering? If you aren't using it for stuff
that needs a powerful video card, any recent card should be good enough.


I am finding the intel embedded driver support the most reliable (sumwars
doesn't crash) with free drivers right now, but I have pretty old graphics
hardware.

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Bruno Wolff wrote:
> What are you expecting out of your graphics card? Are you running graphics
> intense games, CUDA, off-line rendering? If you aren't using it for stuff
> that needs a powerful video card, any recent card should be good enough.
>
> I am finding the intel embedded driver support the most reliable (sumwars
> doesn't crash) with free drivers right now, but I have pretty old graphics
> hardware.
>

I'm a Blender user, and I kinda need the good video cards and good
drivers, in Fedora & Gnome-Shell I've used the free divers but AMD is
getting worse by the second, I was thinking going Nvidia but now Intel
might have to do it...

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On 06/18/2012 02:52 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

tends to make your ahrwdare unuseable if nvidia decides calling
your card "legacy" resulting in no longer working with the next
fedora-version with newer kernels or xorg versions

there are no good reasons for binary drivers

Ahh, now i fully understand why OpenBSD is also against this;
companies can screw me over anytime they feel like.

I am about to upgrade soon and I will check the
hardware i have selected, if any require binary drivers i will chage.:-)


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On 18 June 2012 10:39, Edward M <edwardm1@live.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/18/torvalds_curses_nvidia/

Whatever the actual story (and I can believe Linus is annoyed with
nvidia), articles on the register usually need a very large dose of
salt.

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:06:49 -0430,
Dokuro <dario.soto@gmail.com> wrote:


I'm a Blender user, and I kinda need the good video cards and good
drivers, in Fedora & Gnome-Shell I've used the free divers but AMD is
getting worse by the second, I was thinking going Nvidia but now Intel
might have to do it...



My impression is that Intel does not produce graphics cards as powerful
as nVidia and AMD currently.

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On 19/06/12 03:13, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:06:49 -0430,
Dokuro <dario.soto@gmail.com> wrote:


I'm a Blender user, and I kinda need the good video cards and good
drivers, in Fedora & Gnome-Shell I've used the free divers but AMD is
getting worse by the second, I was thinking going Nvidia but now Intel
might have to do it...



My impression is that Intel does not produce graphics cards as
powerful as nVidia and AMD currently.


I'm using a, what was 3 years a go, high end Geforce 6800gts video card
with Blender no prolems with either the nvidia 173 driver on Ubuntu or
the Nouveau driver in Fedora 16 and have no problems.
My daughter has nvidia card in her new Toshiba laptop running Ubuntu
12.04 , nvidia driver and is Blender teacher, she has no problems.


No one in my family uses AMD because everyone has had problems when
using Blender or high end 2d graphics manipulation, RAW files.
The on the mother board Intel video driver is pretty useless for medium
to high end 2d graphics and won't handle any 3d graphics for more than a
few minutes.


Roger


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