On 06/18/2012 10:17 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:

I can just imagine the arguments
about how to describe GNOME 3


Gnome 3 is a bleeding-edge desktop environment that's currently taking
its users down a bold, new, avant-guard path. If you like
experimenting, or you're looking for a new approach to the desktop,
Gnome may be just the thing for you.


How's that?
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On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 11:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Gnome 3 is a bleeding-edge desktop environment that's currently
> taking
> its users down a bold, new, avant-guard path. If you like
> experimenting, or you're looking for a new approach to the desktop,
> Gnome may be just the thing for you.
>
> How's that?

'cutting-edge' is always preferred to 'bleeding-edge'. 'bleeding-edge'
scares quite a few people
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On 06/18/2012 10:49 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:

'cutting-edge' is always preferred to 'bleeding-edge'. 'bleeding-edge'
scares quite a few people


If that's all you don't like about it, I guess I did a pretty good job
especially when you consider that I won't use Gnome 3.

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Aaron Konstam wrote:

>> I've seen a lot of complaints about Gnome 3.
>> I don't recall seeing anything about Fedora 17.
>>
>> Why don't you tell me your worst problem with F-17,
>> so I can judge how much to worry about it?
>>
> That is like tell me what you don't like about car-X but ignore all the
> console options on the dashboard.

As I understood it, the discussion was about _problems_ with Fedora-17,
not what people like or don't like about it.

If someone says to me, "The new Ford has lots of problems.
The brake doesn't work," I would react in a very different way to
"The new Ford has lots of problems. There is no ash-tray."

Personally, I am using Fedora-17/KDE on a number of machines,
and I have encountered no major or even minor problem.

Regarding problems with GNOME, I just wish
Fedora would give an honest, straightforward choice of desktop environment.
(I feel the same about the partition setup.)
I feel I am almost being tricked into using GNOME,
since one has to jump through a moderately complicated series of hoops
to avoid it.

I would like to be asked a simple question during installation:
"Which desktop environment do you want to use?
(a) GNOME (our recommendation), (b) KDE, (c) ..."

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On 06/19/2012 01:26 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Regarding problems with GNOME, I just wish
> Fedora would give an honest, straightforward choice of desktop environment.
> (I feel the same about the partition setup.)
> I feel I am almost being tricked into using GNOME,
> since one has to jump through a moderately complicated series of hoops
> to avoid it.

Hmm. I didn't encounter that problem: I saw a choice of spins, and
one was XFCE. I accept that wasn't the front page, though.

> I would like to be asked a simple question during installation:
>"Which desktop environment do you want to use?
> (a) GNOME (our recommendation), (b) KDE, (c) ..."

I can accept that makes sense, but I'm still a bit concerned that it
would be a properly informed choice, and I want the installation to be
as clean and simple as possible.

Maybe it would make sense if the descriptions of each DE were written
by the proponents of each one.

Andrew.
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com> wrote:
> Maybe it would make sense if the descriptions of each DE were written
> by the proponents of each one.

Or maybe give the spins more visibility on the get-fedora page. That
probably requires the least effort in terms of development.

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