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Old 05-10-2012, 02:51 AM
Ed Greshko
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On 05/10/2012 10:21 AM, JD wrote:
> On FC16, with all latest updates.
> My session is XFCE4.
>
> Until a couple of days ago, XFCE was working just fine.
> Suddenly, without any provocation from me, (nor new packages
> installed, no packages deleted) - I am getting 2 different sets of
> panels.
> One set of panels is that of Gnome - on top is the launch bar,
> and on bottom is the task switcher bar.
>
> I also have the xfce4 panels, which are on right (launch bar) and
> on left, task switcher bar.
>
> How can I stop this insanity?
>
> I am starting to get very paranoid about F16 that it may have been
> shipped fully equipped with a trojan.
>
> This, in addition to what I have been seeking help for - no audio
> for media players. Only Firefox can play online YT videos and
> audio works then.
>
> I am indeed on the verge of completely dumping FC16. It has
> been a very frustrating experience.

Oh, no.... Not another person threatening to dump a distro because of issues they
haven't been able to resolve or even know the cause. :-)

At least you could have put a smiley at the end of the "Trojan" claim as I am sure
countless others haven't run into similar difficulties.

I don't use GNOME or XFCE on a regular basis....so can't offer any advice....

But, you should keep your audio issues in the thread you've already started on that.
I will note you've not responded to suggestions from Bryn Reeves on the audio issue.

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Old 05-10-2012, 03:55 AM
Joe Zeff
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On 05/09/2012 07:21 PM, JD wrote:

I am starting to get very paranoid about F16 that it may have been
shipped fully equipped with a trojan.


If it makes you feel any better, I'm also using XFCE on both my desktop
and my laptop, and I'm not seeing anything like what you're describing.
Of course, I only have one panel, at the bottom because I can't see
the point of wasting screenspace on a second one. Log out, go to a
different console, log in and rename .config.xfce4 to .config.xfce4.bak
or something, then go back to the GUI and log in again. That way, your
config isn't lost for good, but you can get a clean start and see if
it's still happening.

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Old 05-10-2012, 04:38 AM
JD
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Joe Zeff <joe@zeff.us> wrote:
> On 05/09/2012 07:21 PM, JD wrote:
>>
>> I am starting to get very paranoid about F16 that it may have been
>> shipped fully equipped with a trojan.
>
>
> If it makes you feel any better, I'm also using XFCE on both my desktop and
> my laptop, and I'm not seeing anything like what you're describing. *Of
> course, I only have one panel, at the bottom because I can't see the point
> of wasting screenspace on a second one. *Log out, go to a different console,
> log in and rename .config.xfce4 to .config.xfce4.bak or something, then go
> back to the GUI and log in again. *That way, your config isn't lost for
> good, but you can get a clean start and see if it's still happening.
>
I renamed the .config dir, and logged out and logged back in.
Now I have the clean xfce desktop.
I found out that if I subsequently login and select classic gnome,
log out, and log back in and select xfce, I will end up with 2sets of panels.
This SHOULD NEVER happen - else, why provide multiple desktop choices
at login, if they will end up getting mixed together.

Also, this was a CLEAN install from the DVD (the sha256-sum of which
checked out).
It was not an upgrade. So it is not clear at all why I have been
having so many problems
with so many different things, of which I have enumerated only a few
on this list.
I will not even mention the others, lest I get cussed out by some
purist list cop for deviating off topic.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:46 AM
Joe Zeff
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On 05/09/2012 09:38 PM, JD wrote:

I found out that if I subsequently login and select classic gnome,
log out, and log back in and select xfce, I will end up with 2sets of panels.
This SHOULD NEVER happen - else, why provide multiple desktop choices
at login, if they will end up getting mixed together.


OK, we're making progress. It sounds like Gnome is storing some
settings in the wrong place.

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Old 05-10-2012, 05:14 AM
Ed Greshko
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On 05/10/2012 12:38 PM, JD wrote:
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Joe Zeff <joe@zeff.us> wrote:
>> On 05/09/2012 07:21 PM, JD wrote:
>>> I am starting to get very paranoid about F16 that it may have been
>>> shipped fully equipped with a trojan.
>>
>> If it makes you feel any better, I'm also using XFCE on both my desktop and
>> my laptop, and I'm not seeing anything like what you're describing. Of
>> course, I only have one panel, at the bottom because I can't see the point
>> of wasting screenspace on a second one. Log out, go to a different console,
>> log in and rename .config.xfce4 to .config.xfce4.bak or something, then go
>> back to the GUI and log in again. That way, your config isn't lost for
>> good, but you can get a clean start and see if it's still happening.
>>
> I renamed the .config dir, and logged out and logged back in.
> Now I have the clean xfce desktop.
> I found out that if I subsequently login and select classic gnome,
> log out, and log back in and select xfce, I will end up with 2sets of panels.
> This SHOULD NEVER happen - else, why provide multiple desktop choices
> at login, if they will end up getting mixed together.

I believe I did the same thing you did.... These are the steps I took.

1. Login to a xfce session
2. mv .config to config
3. Logout
4. Login to a xfce session
5. Dialog pops up and I pick "default".
6. Logout
7. Login to a GNOME session. (don't know what "classic gnome" is)
8. Logout
9. Login to a xfce session .... and I should see a problem?

I don't see any problems.... So....am I doing what you're doing to try and duplicate
the problem?
>
> Also, this was a CLEAN install from the DVD (the sha256-sum of which
> checked out).
> It was not an upgrade. So it is not clear at all why I have been
> having so many problems
> with so many different things, of which I have enumerated only a few
> on this list.
> I will not even mention the others, lest I get cussed out by some
> purist list cop for deviating off topic.

Bringing up problems with Fedora on this list are never OT. But, it is suggested
that you keep to one problem per message/thread to avoid having things get mixed up
or confused.

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Old 05-10-2012, 02:05 PM
Aaron Konstam
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 19:21 -0700, JD wrote:
> On FC16, with all latest updates.
> My session is XFCE4.
>
> Until a couple of days ago, XFCE was working just fine.
> Suddenly, without any provocation from me, (nor new packages
> installed, no packages deleted) - I am getting 2 different sets of
> panels.
> One set of panels is that of Gnome - on top is the launch bar,
> and on bottom is the task switcher bar.
>
> I also have the xfce4 panels, which are on right (launch bar) and
> on left, task switcher bar.
>
> How can I stop this insanity?
>
> I am starting to get very paranoid about F16 that it may have been
> shipped fully equipped with a trojan.
>
> This, in addition to what I have been seeking help for - no audio
> for media players. Only Firefox can play online YT videos and
> audio works then.
>
> I am indeed on the verge of completely dumping FC16. It has
> been a very frustrating experience.

replace metacity by xfwm4 to fix xfce
I suspect xfwm4 is not running on your machine.

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Old 05-10-2012, 10:08 PM
JD
 
Default Weird behavior of Desktop Env

On 05/10/2012 08:05 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 19:21 -0700, JD wrote:

On FC16, with all latest updates.
My session is XFCE4.

Until a couple of days ago, XFCE was working just fine.
Suddenly, without any provocation from me, (nor new packages
installed, no packages deleted) - I am getting 2 different sets of
panels.
One set of panels is that of Gnome - on top is the launch bar,
and on bottom is the task switcher bar.

I also have the xfce4 panels, which are on right (launch bar) and
on left, task switcher bar.

How can I stop this insanity?

I am starting to get very paranoid about F16 that it may have been
shipped fully equipped with a trojan.

This, in addition to what I have been seeking help for - no audio
for media players. Only Firefox can play online YT videos and
audio works then.

I am indeed on the verge of completely dumping FC16. It has
been a very frustrating experience.

replace metacity by xfwm4 to fix xfce
I suspect xfwm4 is not running on your machine.


$ ps -ef | grep wm
jd 3948 1 0 15:59 ? 00:00:00 xfwm4

$ ps -ef | grep -i metacity
jd 4449 4172 0 16:06 pts/0 00:00:00 grep -i metacity
$

Or is metacity a config option somewhere?

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