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"max bianco" 04-07-2008 06:54 PM

OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:09 PM, <rlengland@verizon.net> wrote:
> >From: max bianco <maximilianbianco@gmail.com>
> >Date: 2008/04/07 Mon PM 12:48:46 CDT
> >To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> >Subject: Re: OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
>
>
>
> >On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> >> Ric Moore wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 09:29 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I am an independent and I don't care what OS the candidates run as
> >> > > long as they help straighten out this mess! I doubt in the end that
> >> > > any of them will do anything useful.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > True, true, but it would be useful for the next President to have an
> >> > Open-Source mindset for a change! Couldn't hurt. Nosirree! Ric
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Hell with mindset, I'd settle for a working *mind*... as one of the online
> >> cartoons noted, it's a thrill to have a candidate who can speak in complete
> >> sentences.
> >>
> >
> >Actually if they were all mute I think we might be better off. I am
> >tired of hearing why I shouldn't vote for the other guy, how about
> >someone gives me a reason to vote for them without slamming the
> >competition! Now that would be something!!
> >
> >Max
> >
>
> Are you hearing this in the context of a presentation by the candidate first hand or as a >sound-byte presented by the news media or the oppositions organization?
>
The candidates hide behind their campaigns so often they won't say it
themselves but the campaign spokesman or an aide will say it. To me
its all the same, it is the candidates campaign so saying that it
wasn't Obama or Clinton or McCain that actually said it doesn't matter
to me because they should be controlling who says what and when, if
they cannot control the people that work for them now what makes you
think they will have any control when one of them makes it to the
white house.

> The two candidates I've heard, spent very little time, tearing down their opposition (though >I admit it was there) than they did attempting to present their vision and goals (but not so >much the plan, when I heard them).
>

They are all full of grandiose visions and ideas but who's going to
pay for it all? That's the real key! It's nice to talk about new
programs and healthcare reforms etc....but where is the money coming
from?

> I am suspicious of the media, these days (especially TV) because they are controlled by >business interests who want them to sell air time and nothing draws listeners like >controversy (or so they think).

The media doesn't help matters that's for sure.

Max

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"Patrick O'Callaghan" 04-07-2008 08:28 PM

OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
 
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 14:54 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:09 PM, <rlengland@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >From: max bianco <maximilianbianco@gmail.com>
> > >Date: 2008/04/07 Mon PM 12:48:46 CDT
> > >To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > >Subject: Re: OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
> >
> >
> >
> > >On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> > >> Ric Moore wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 09:29 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I am an independent and I don't care what OS the candidates run as
> > >> > > long as they help straighten out this mess! I doubt in the end that
> > >> > > any of them will do anything useful.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > True, true, but it would be useful for the next President to have an
> > >> > Open-Source mindset for a change! Couldn't hurt. Nosirree! Ric
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> Hell with mindset, I'd settle for a working *mind*... as one of the online
> > >> cartoons noted, it's a thrill to have a candidate who can speak in complete
> > >> sentences.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Actually if they were all mute I think we might be better off. I am
> > >tired of hearing why I shouldn't vote for the other guy, how about
> > >someone gives me a reason to vote for them without slamming the
> > >competition! Now that would be something!!
> > >
> > >Max
> > >
> >
> > Are you hearing this in the context of a presentation by the candidate first hand or as a >sound-byte presented by the news media or the oppositions organization?
> >
> The candidates hide behind their campaigns so often they won't say it
> themselves but the campaign spokesman or an aide will say it. To me
> its all the same, it is the candidates campaign so saying that it
> wasn't Obama or Clinton or McCain that actually said it doesn't matter
> to me because they should be controlling who says what and when, if
> they cannot control the people that work for them now what makes you
> think they will have any control when one of them makes it to the
> white house.
>
> > The two candidates I've heard, spent very little time, tearing down their opposition (though >I admit it was there) than they did attempting to present their vision and goals (but not so >much the plan, when I heard them).
> >
>
> They are all full of grandiose visions and ideas but who's going to
> pay for it all? That's the real key! It's nice to talk about new
> programs and healthcare reforms etc....but where is the money coming
> from?
>
> > I am suspicious of the media, these days (especially TV) because they are controlled by >business interests who want them to sell air time and nothing draws listeners like >controversy (or so they think).
>
> The media doesn't help matters that's for sure.

Can we *please* stop this? At least the endless reminiscing on the punch
cards thread might be tangentially interesting to members of this list,
if you close one eye and squint a bit, but rabbiting on about the US
elections is so OT it's not funny, especially to those of us -- more
than a few I suspect -- who are not from the US.

poc

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"max bianco" 04-08-2008 12:04 AM

OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 14:54 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:09 PM, <rlengland@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > >From: max bianco <maximilianbianco@gmail.com>
> > > >Date: 2008/04/07 Mon PM 12:48:46 CDT
> > > >To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> > > >> Ric Moore wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 09:29 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I am an independent and I don't care what OS the candidates run as
> > > >> > > long as they help straighten out this mess! I doubt in the end that
> > > >> > > any of them will do anything useful.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > True, true, but it would be useful for the next President to have an
> > > >> > Open-Source mindset for a change! Couldn't hurt. Nosirree! Ric
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> Hell with mindset, I'd settle for a working *mind*... as one of the online
> > > >> cartoons noted, it's a thrill to have a candidate who can speak in complete
> > > >> sentences.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Actually if they were all mute I think we might be better off. I am
> > > >tired of hearing why I shouldn't vote for the other guy, how about
> > > >someone gives me a reason to vote for them without slamming the
> > > >competition! Now that would be something!!
> > > >
> > > >Max
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you hearing this in the context of a presentation by the candidate first hand or as a >sound-byte presented by the news media or the oppositions organization?
> > >
> > The candidates hide behind their campaigns so often they won't say it
> > themselves but the campaign spokesman or an aide will say it. To me
> > its all the same, it is the candidates campaign so saying that it
> > wasn't Obama or Clinton or McCain that actually said it doesn't matter
> > to me because they should be controlling who says what and when, if
> > they cannot control the people that work for them now what makes you
> > think they will have any control when one of them makes it to the
> > white house.
> >
> > > The two candidates I've heard, spent very little time, tearing down their opposition (though >I admit it was there) than they did attempting to present their vision and goals (but not so >much the plan, when I heard them).
> > >
> >
> > They are all full of grandiose visions and ideas but who's going to
> > pay for it all? That's the real key! It's nice to talk about new
> > programs and healthcare reforms etc....but where is the money coming
> > from?
> >
> > > I am suspicious of the media, these days (especially TV) because they are controlled by >business interests who want them to sell air time and nothing draws listeners like >controversy (or so they think).
> >
> > The media doesn't help matters that's for sure.
>
> Can we *please* stop this? At least the endless reminiscing on the punch
> cards thread might be tangentially interesting to members of this list,
> if you close one eye and squint a bit, but rabbiting on about the US
> elections is so OT it's not funny, especially to those of us -- more
> than a few I suspect -- who are not from the US.
>

Come on man it hasn't even gotten interesting yet!!
ok ok, but for the record I think its very funny, yeah yeah
aggravating too but that's no reason to take offense. I argue with my
friends about politics all the time, that's how i can tell they are
stand up people.
Precisely because we are still friends after the argument ;)

Anyway what if we just keep everything OT in one thread?(note my
attempt to change the subject)
Will the subject change? Will someone jump back onto the political
bandwagon in open defiance of this tryannical attempt to quelch free
speech? Will the thread die? Ultimately will the fedora-list be forced
to add a moderator? Found out all this and more in the next
installment of OT THREAD!!

Max

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"Patrick O'Callaghan" 04-08-2008 12:39 AM

OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
 
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 20:04 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 14:54 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:09 PM, <rlengland@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > > >From: max bianco <maximilianbianco@gmail.com>
> > > > >Date: 2008/04/07 Mon PM 12:48:46 CDT
> > > > >To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: OT: Which OS do the candidates run? republican or democratic hitchhiker?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Ric Moore wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 09:29 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > I am an independent and I don't care what OS the candidates run as
> > > > >> > > long as they help straighten out this mess! I doubt in the end that
> > > > >> > > any of them will do anything useful.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > True, true, but it would be useful for the next President to have an
> > > > >> > Open-Source mindset for a change! Couldn't hurt. Nosirree! Ric
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> Hell with mindset, I'd settle for a working *mind*... as one of the online
> > > > >> cartoons noted, it's a thrill to have a candidate who can speak in complete
> > > > >> sentences.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >Actually if they were all mute I think we might be better off. I am
> > > > >tired of hearing why I shouldn't vote for the other guy, how about
> > > > >someone gives me a reason to vote for them without slamming the
> > > > >competition! Now that would be something!!
> > > > >
> > > > >Max
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you hearing this in the context of a presentation by the candidate first hand or as a >sound-byte presented by the news media or the oppositions organization?
> > > >
> > > The candidates hide behind their campaigns so often they won't say it
> > > themselves but the campaign spokesman or an aide will say it. To me
> > > its all the same, it is the candidates campaign so saying that it
> > > wasn't Obama or Clinton or McCain that actually said it doesn't matter
> > > to me because they should be controlling who says what and when, if
> > > they cannot control the people that work for them now what makes you
> > > think they will have any control when one of them makes it to the
> > > white house.
> > >
> > > > The two candidates I've heard, spent very little time, tearing down their opposition (though >I admit it was there) than they did attempting to present their vision and goals (but not so >much the plan, when I heard them).
> > > >
> > >
> > > They are all full of grandiose visions and ideas but who's going to
> > > pay for it all? That's the real key! It's nice to talk about new
> > > programs and healthcare reforms etc....but where is the money coming
> > > from?
> > >
> > > > I am suspicious of the media, these days (especially TV) because they are controlled by >business interests who want them to sell air time and nothing draws listeners like >controversy (or so they think).
> > >
> > > The media doesn't help matters that's for sure.
> >
> > Can we *please* stop this? At least the endless reminiscing on the punch
> > cards thread might be tangentially interesting to members of this list,
> > if you close one eye and squint a bit, but rabbiting on about the US
> > elections is so OT it's not funny, especially to those of us -- more
> > than a few I suspect -- who are not from the US.
> >
>
> Come on man it hasn't even gotten interesting yet!!
> ok ok, but for the record I think its very funny, yeah yeah
> aggravating too but that's no reason to take offense.

No offense taken. I follow politics fairly closely via various online
sites so it's not that I'm disinterested. I just don't want to read
about on a technical list.

poc

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