This afternoon I updated the F15 x86_64 workstation I use. There
were quite a few updates in the pipe, so why not. There was properly
working nvidia setup which gave high Xorg resolution.
Before proceeding there was a warning from yum about the nvidia to
the effect that:
Which is not part of the three kernels that are installed and available.
Is it possible to precisely ask yum to install the
2.6.41.10-3.fc15.x86_64 kernel that would work with nvidia ?
Or...
How to get back high resolution and if possible, how to get it back with
the new kernel that was just installed, 2.6.42.3-2.fc15.x86_64, to
which I can point grub to ?
Thanks.
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02-12-2012, 10:04 PM
Marko Vojinovic
F15 update: no more nvidia
On Sunday 12 February 2012 17:17:55 jonetsu wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This afternoon I updated the F15 x86_64 workstation I use. There
> were quite a few updates in the pipe, so why not. There was properly
> working nvidia setup which gave high Xorg resolution.
>
> Before proceeding there was a warning from yum about the nvidia to
> the effect that:
>
> 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.41.10-3.fc15.x86_64-280.13-2.fc15.16.x86_64
>
> needs:
>
> kernel-uname-r = 2.6.41.10-3.fc15.x86_64
>
> And that I should use '--skip-broken' to proceed.
[snip]
> When the update was done I rebooted and no more X server. kernel
> 2.6.42.3-2.fc15.x86_64 was installed.
[snip]
> Is it possible to precisely ask yum to install the
> 2.6.41.10-3.fc15.x86_64 kernel that would work with nvidia ?
>
> Or...
>
> How to get back high resolution and if possible, how to get it back with
> the new kernel that was just installed, 2.6.42.3-2.fc15.x86_64, to
> which I can point grub to ?
Most probably the kmod-nvidia for the 2.6.42.3 kernel is a bit late. I advise
to boot into the latest kernel, do a "yum update kmod-nvidia" in the prompt,
and see if it gets pulled in. If yes, it should start working with the new
kernel. If not, wait a couple of days and retry.
While you wait for rpmfusion devs to produce the latest kmod, use whatever
kernel works, at whatever resolution works... :-)
HTH, :-)
Marko
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02-12-2012, 10:21 PM
Bruce Korb
F15 update: no more nvidia
On 02/12/12 14:17, jonetsu wrote:
How to get back high resolution and
Go to the nvidia driver download page: http://bit.ly/AbjlHC
You'll have to have the linux source RPM installed and rebuild it.
The "open source" driver has now progressed to where it almost
works, but I don't find "almost" to be good enough for prime time.
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02-12-2012, 10:28 PM
Reindl Harald
F15 update: no more nvidia
Am 13.02.2012 00:21, schrieb Bruce Korb:
> On 02/12/12 14:17, jonetsu wrote:
>>
>> How to get back high resolution and
>
> Go to the nvidia driver download page: http://bit.ly/AbjlHC
> You'll have to have the linux source RPM installed and rebuild it.
> The "open source" driver has now progressed to where it almost
> works, but I don't find "almost" to be good enough for prime time.
why recommending the BLOB from nvidia-homepage WITHOUT BIG WARNING
that EVERYTIME after kernel-updates GUI will be broken?
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02-12-2012, 11:38 PM
Pete Travis
F15 update: no more nvidia
On Feb 12, 2012 3:15 PM, "jonetsu" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> *This afternoon I updated the F15 x86_64 workstation I use. *There
> were quite a few updates in the pipe, so why not. *There was properly
> working nvidia setup which gave high Xorg resolution.
>
> *Before proceeding there was a warning from yum about the nvidia to
> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
yum install akmod-nvidia
The akmod will build the module locally when there is disparity between the kmod and kernel versions.* You can install them both and not think about it again.
Do NOT install the NVIDIA...RUN blob.* We have sane repos and competent package management, there is no reason to abandon them because rpmfusion is a day or two behind the kernel.* This method is not sustainable, irrevocably changes system files that it shouldn't, and is not supportable here.
So, please use an akmod or the old kernel for a few days.
--pete
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02-13-2012, 12:19 AM
jonetsu
F15 update: no more nvidia
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:38:56 -0700,
Pete Travis <lists@petetravis.com> wrote :
> yum install akmod-nvidia
>
> The akmod will build the module locally when there is disparity
> between the kmod and kernel versions. You can install them both and
> not think about it again.
Super! This works very nicely. Installed it, then rebooted and now
back to high resolution.
Also, this is a principle I'm not too familiar with, this capacity for
certain drivers to rebuild themselves when needed. I think VmWare also
uses that (at last ! ;-). ... If what's at work here with
akmod-nvidia is that.
Within Fedora, are there any other drivers that works int he same
way ? Could be useful to know.
> Do NOT install the NVIDIA...RUN blob. We have sane repos and
> competent package management, there is no reason to abandon them
> because rpmfusion is a day or two behind the kernel. This method is
> not sustainable, irrevocably changes system files that it shouldn't,
> and is not supportable here.
I also prefer to stick with the dedicated repositories.
Thanks.
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02-13-2012, 01:58 AM
Bruce Korb
F15 update: no more nvidia
On 02/12/12 15:28, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.02.2012 00:21, schrieb Bruce Korb:
On 02/12/12 14:17, jonetsu wrote:
How to get back high resolution and
Go to the nvidia driver download page: http://bit.ly/AbjlHC
You'll have to have the linux source RPM installed and rebuild it.
The "open source" driver has now progressed to where it almost
works, but I don't find "almost" to be good enough for prime time.
why recommending the BLOB from nvidia-homepage WITHOUT BIG WARNING
that EVERYTIME after kernel-updates GUI will be broken?
Because, more-or-less, my GUI gets broken everytime the kernel
gets updated anyway. I think if you have one monitor and an older
nVidia card, you may be okay with that nouveau horse dung.
Otherwise, you've got nothing but problems. Frankly, it is easier
to go through a longer sequence of well-trodden paths than it is
to diagnose the situation when nouveau decides to give you
reduced resolution on only one monitor. That's why.
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02-13-2012, 02:02 AM
Reindl Harald
F15 update: no more nvidia
Am 13.02.2012 03:58, schrieb Bruce Korb:
> On 02/12/12 15:28, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 13.02.2012 00:21, schrieb Bruce Korb:
>>> On 02/12/12 14:17, jonetsu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How to get back high resolution and
>>>
>>> Go to the nvidia driver download page: http://bit.ly/AbjlHC
>>> You'll have to have the linux source RPM installed and rebuild it.
>>> The "open source" driver has now progressed to where it almost
>>> works, but I don't find "almost" to be good enough for prime time.
>>
>> why recommending the BLOB from nvidia-homepage WITHOUT BIG WARNING
>> that EVERYTIME after kernel-updates GUI will be broken?
>
> Because, more-or-less, my GUI gets broken everytime the kernel
> gets updated anyway. I think if you have one monitor and an older
> nVidia card, you may be okay with that nouveau horse dung.
not sooo long ago nouveau worked perfectly
however, do not buy nVidia at all
Corei7 SandyBridge needs no BLOB at all
> Otherwise, you've got nothing but problems. Frankly, it is easier
> to go through a longer sequence of well-trodden paths than it is
> to diagnose the situation when nouveau decides to give you
> reduced resolution on only one monitor. That's why
and why do you not recommend the akmod-nvidia to get
updated drivers after kernel updates and mostly if
no bianry yet vuilt automatic rebuilt kernel modules?
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02-13-2012, 02:15 PM
Kevin Martin
F15 update: no more nvidia
On 02/12/2012 06:38 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
On Feb 12, 2012 3:15 PM, "jonetsu" <jonetsu@teksavvy.com>
wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> *This afternoon I updated the F15 x86_64 workstation I use.
*There
> were quite a few updates in the pipe, so why not. *There
was properly
> working nvidia setup which gave high Xorg resolution.
>
> *Before proceeding there was a warning from yum about the
nvidia to
> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
yum install akmod-nvidia
The akmod will build the module locally when there is disparity
between the kmod and kernel versions.* You can install them both
and not think about it again.
Do NOT install the NVIDIA...RUN blob.* We have sane repos and
competent package management, there is no reason to abandon them
because rpmfusion is a day or two behind the kernel.* This
method is not sustainable, irrevocably changes system files that
it shouldn't, and is not supportable here.
So, please use an akmod or the old kernel for a few days.
--pete
akmod's do *NOT* work with the debug versions of the kernel so, if
you want to run the nVidia driver and not the broken nouveau driver,
you *must* get the "blob" from the nVidia website and, yes, rebuild
it every time you want to run a new debug kernel (keep in mind that
you have to tweak kernel/nv.c so that the stupid license allows you
to rebuild).* Not really that big of a deal if you are dropping to
multi-user target on reboot anyway and using startx to start your
gui.* Just do the rebuild prior to running the startx.* Maybe 2-3
minutes more time to wait.
I would *much* prefer to use akmod's for this but....
Kevin
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02-13-2012, 02:28 PM
Ian Malone
F15 update: no more nvidia
On 13 February 2012 02:58, Bruce Korb <bkorb@gnu.org> wrote:
> On 02/12/12 15:28, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 13.02.2012 00:21, schrieb Bruce Korb:
>>>
>>> On 02/12/12 14:17, jonetsu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How to get back high resolution and
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to the nvidia driver download page: *http://bit.ly/AbjlHC
>>> You'll have to have the linux source RPM installed and rebuild it.
>>> The "open source" driver has now progressed to where it almost
>>> works, but I don't find "almost" to be good enough for prime time.
>>
>>
>> why recommending the BLOB from nvidia-homepage WITHOUT BIG WARNING
>> that EVERYTIME after kernel-updates GUI will be broken?
>
>
> Because, more-or-less, my GUI gets broken everytime the kernel
> gets updated anyway. *I think if you have one monitor and an older
> nVidia card, you may be okay with that nouveau horse dung.
> Otherwise, you've got nothing but problems. *Frankly, it is easier
> to go through a longer sequence of well-trodden paths than it is
> to diagnose the situation when nouveau decides to give you
> reduced resolution on only one monitor. *That's why.
You're confused. The nvidia akmod from rpmfusion will rebuild the
kernel module for the nvidia proprietary driver when the kernel
updates. It is not nouveau. What it does do is ensure the files on
your system are managed by the package manager and you get updates to
the kernel and the driver without manual intervention (and things are
less likely to break randomly due to incompatibilities). As Kevin
Martin points out it doesn't work with debug kernels, but nothing's
perfect.
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