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Old 02-10-2012, 02:46 PM
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On 02/10/2012 09:37 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

>> Just use google sync like most people.
>
> What do you mean by "use google sync"?
> Are you talking about a Fedora program?
> According to "man google" there is no option "sync".
> Perhaps if you just wrote down the command you give or might give
> (under Fedora), and the effect you expect it to have,
> I would find it simpler to follow.


It's a feature of all android phones - you need to put in your gmail
account into the phone - and make sure (via settings) that you have
allowed syncing on gthe phone. Then the phone will sync your contacts
etc to the google cloud - from where you can also sync it back ot your
linux machine - (a) you will see your contacts in gmail webmail app (b)
can use googlesycn addon for thunderbird.

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Old 02-10-2012, 05:49 PM
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Genes MailLists wrote:

>> What do you mean by "use google sync"?
>> Are you talking about a Fedora program?
>> According to "man google" there is no option "sync".
>> Perhaps if you just wrote down the command you give or might give
>> (under Fedora), and the effect you expect it to have,
>> I would find it simpler to follow.
>
>
> It's a feature of all android phones - you need to put in your gmail
> account into the phone - and make sure (via settings) that you have
> allowed syncing on gthe phone. Then the phone will sync your contacts
> etc to the google cloud - from where you can also sync it back ot your
> linux machine - (a) you will see your contacts in gmail webmail app (b)
> can use googlesycn addon for thunderbird.

I have my google account on the phone,
but I am unable to sync to it.
(It is greyed out in Settings=>Accounts and sync .)
I am told I should go to Settings=>Advanced
but there is no such item on my Samsung Galaxy S2 (Android 2.3.3).

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Old 02-10-2012, 06:16 PM
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> --------------------------------------

> [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo google contacts list --title '.*' --user

> timothygayleardmurphy@gmail.com

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Hey Tim,


Why do you need to run this as root?


Pete

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Old 02-10-2012, 07:54 PM
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Pete Travis wrote:

> Why do you need to run this as root?

I ran it with and without sudo,
just to see if there was any difference.
There wasn't.

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Old 02-10-2012, 08:52 PM
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On Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM, "Timothy Murphy" <gayleard@eircom.net> wrote:

>

> Pete Travis wrote:

>

> > Why do you need to run this as root?

>

> I ran it with and without sudo,

> just to see if there was any difference.

> There wasn't.

>

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It it in your best interests to get out of that habit.* You are going to start seeing strange problems you don't understand, and things will break in ways that are hard to troubleshoot and fix.* Your system sounds pretty mixed up, and I'm guessing that running things as root unecessarily is a contributing factor.


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Old 02-11-2012, 01:18 PM
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Pete Travis wrote:

>> > Why do you need to run this as root?
>>
>> I ran it with and without sudo,
>> just to see if there was any difference.
>> There wasn't.

> It it in your best interests to get out of that habit. You are going to
> start seeing strange problems you don't understand, and things will break
> in ways that are hard to troubleshoot and fix. Your system sounds pretty
> mixed up, and I'm guessing that running things as root unecessarily is a
> contributing factor.

I think you are talking nonsense.

I ran a command normally (as myself), and it did not work.

So I ran it with sudo, to see if there were some permission problem.
It still didn't work, so the problem was not one of permissions.

This seems to me a perfectly normal procedure.
I don't think my system is at all "mixed up", whatever that means.

Personally, if I have a problem I try everything I can think of
or that is suggested, to try to solve it.

The question was, could I have contacts in my Google account
that I could not see with my Firefox browser
(which seemed just possible, since the Google toolbar
is no longer available in Firefox)?
Accordingly, I ran the CLI application googlecl
(called google, confusingly), first as myself, and then with sudo.
Neither saw any new contacts in my Google account.

I don't know if you read my original query,
but my problem is that my Android phone does not seem to be sync-ing
with my Google account, although it says it is.
This has nothing at all to do with my laptop,
whose health you seem to be concerned about.


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Old 02-12-2012, 03:14 AM
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On Feb 11, 2012 7:19 AM, "Timothy Murphy" <gayleard@eircom.net> wrote:

>

> Pete Travis wrote:

>

> >> > Why do you need to run this as root?

> >>

> >> I ran it with and without sudo,

> >> just to see if there was any difference.

> >> There wasn't.

>

> > It it in your best interests to get out of that habit. *You are going to

> > start seeing strange problems you don't understand, and things will break

> > in ways that are hard to troubleshoot and fix. *Your system sounds pretty

> > mixed up, and I'm guessing that running things as root unecessarily is a

> > contributing factor.

>

> I think you are talking nonsense.

>

> I ran a command normally (as myself), and it did not work.

>

> So I ran it with sudo, to see if there were some permission problem.

> It still didn't work, so the problem was not one of permissions.

>

> This seems to me a perfectly normal procedure.


Not in my world.* I put a bit of thought into what I'm doing.* Why would google only allow the root user of your local system to access normal user data stored on their system?


> I don't think my system is at all "mixed up", whatever that means.

>


You've started at least five threads on various problems in recent days. I stopped keeping track.



> Personally, if I have a problem I try everything I can think of

> or that is suggested, to try to solve it.

I'm suggesting you use your root account responsibly. It's your system, do what you will, but you came here for support and this advice is part of it.


> The question was, could I have contacts in my Google account

> that I could not see with my Firefox browser


No.


> (which seemed just possible, since the Google toolbar

> is no longer available in Firefox)?


Dropping core features of a multiplatform cloud service based on the presence of a specific search helper extention in one browser on one machine sounds confusing and difficult.* How could google anticipate that a given android user would later use a browser without the toolbar?



> Accordingly, I ran the CLI application googlecl

> (called google, confusingly), first as myself, and then with sudo.

> Neither saw any new contacts in my Google account.

>


Get your phone syncing first, then figure out google-cl.


> I don't know if you read my original query,

> but my problem is that my Android phone does not seem to be sync-ing

> with my Google account, although it says it is.


Are you sure the contacts are gmail account contacts? You could have chosen to save them only as device contacts - and i doubt there is a mechanism to sync them, considering the great effort put into integration wirh Google services to provide this functionality.



> This has nothing at all to do with my laptop,

> whose health you seem to be concerned about.

>


This has nothing to do with Fedora. You need to read your phone's manual.* This should be no more complicated than adding your gmail account to Thunderbird or Evolution.


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Old 02-12-2012, 12:41 PM
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Pete Travis wrote:

>> I don't think my system is at all "mixed up", whatever that means.
>
> You've started at least five threads on various problems in recent days. I
> stopped keeping track.

All the threads I contributed to (I didn't start them all)
were concerned with communication between Android phones and Linux,
particularly Fedora.
I think this is quite an interesting topic, and even an important one,
since Android is a version of Linux, and as a consequence there are probably
more installations of Linux running on phones than on laptops.

>> I don't know if you read my original query,
>> but my problem is that my Android phone does not seem to be sync-ing
>> with my Google account, although it says it is.
>
> Are you sure the contacts are gmail account contacts?

Sigh.
I have an Android phone, with 207 contacts listed in it.
I have a Google account, with 17 contacts listed in it.
I want to bring them into sync.

> This has nothing to do with Fedora.

I've already explained the connection with Fedora.
I want the KAddressBook on my laptop to sync (to some extent)
with my Android phone, and the simplest way to do this at present
seems to be via Google.
(I have sync-ed the phone with a Kies account under Windows
and with a Funambol account under Linux,
but Google seems a more generic way if I can get it working.)

> You need to read your phone's manual.

I have read the manual for my Samsung Galaxy S2 (it is online),
but it has been of little help in this area.
(In fact - I just checked in the Index of the 164-page manual -
there is no mention of transferring contacts to or from the phone,
except to the SIM card.)

> This should be no more complicated than adding your gmail account to
> Thunderbird or Evolution.

Actually, I don't use either of these - I use KMail/Kontacts/KAddressBook.
But I don't see the connection with my problem/question.

Incidentally, do you actually have an Android phone?
If you don't, I doubt if you will be able to help me.

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Old 02-12-2012, 03:23 PM
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 16:18, Timothy Murphy <gayleard@eircom.net> wrote:
>> It it in your best interests to get out of that habit. *You are going to
>> start seeing strange problems you don't understand, and things will break
>> in ways that are hard to troubleshoot and fix. *Your system sounds pretty
>> mixed up, and I'm guessing that running things as root unecessarily is a
>> contributing factor.
>
> I think you are talking nonsense.
>

He is not talking nonsense, he is trying to help you and you should
listen. I suspect that the difference between root and regular user is
not clear to you seeing how you tried to run what is obviously not a
system command as root. That is fine, there was a time when I didn't
know as well, and I ruined quite a few things learning. Let it be
clear that when you run a command as a regular user and it does not do
what you expect, running it as root is not the solution.


> I ran a command normally (as myself), and it did not work.
>
> So I ran it with sudo, to see if there were some permission problem.
> It still didn't work, so the problem was not one of permissions.
>
> This seems to me a perfectly normal procedure.
> I don't think my system is at all "mixed up", whatever that means.
>
> Personally, if I have a problem I try everything I can think of
> or that is suggested, to try to solve it.
>
> The question was, could I have contacts in my Google account
> that I could not see with my Firefox browser
> (which seemed just possible, since the Google toolbar
> is no longer available in Firefox)?
> Accordingly, I ran the CLI application googlecl
> (called google, confusingly), first as myself, and then with sudo.
> Neither saw any new contacts in my Google account.
>
> I don't know if you read my original query,
> but my problem is that my Android phone does not seem to be sync-ing
> with my Google account, although it says it is.
> This has nothing at all to do with my laptop,
> whose health you seem to be concerned about.
>
>




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Old 02-12-2012, 03:31 PM
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 15:41, Timothy Murphy <gayleard@eircom.net> wrote:
> Incidentally, do you actually have an Android phone?
> If you don't, I doubt if you will be able to help me.
>

I don't have an Android phone, but your problem is not "How do I sync
to an Android phone" but rather "How to I sync to Google's services".
You then sync your phone to Google's services as well.

According to this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711058

You need the package "akonadi-googledata".

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