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Old 12-23-2011, 04:04 PM
"M. Fioretti"
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

Greetings,

we just installed Fedora 16 x86_64 KDE spin on an Intel DH61CR board,
from the live CD. New computer, no other OS is installed.

The live CD worked fine, no problem with the installation. However,
now

1) if booting from the network is enabled, the motherboard ONLY tries to
boot from the network, forever

2) if booting from network is disabled, I just get this error message:

"a bootable device has not been detected"

3) if I press F10 at boot I get a PARTIAL BIOS menu. By partial I mean
that I ONLY see a screen that asks me to change boot priority among:

detected hard drive (the one on which we had just installed F16)
detected dvd/cd drive
network

if I select the hard drive the system boots into Fedora 16 WITHOUT
ANY TROUBLE AT ALL. But since in that menu there is NO entry as
usual saying "press F9 or F10 to save settings" or similar (that's
why I said "partial bios menu") that choice is not saved

4) if I press F2 at boot I do get the complete boot menu, but no
matter what I select as priority order, or what I disable, in the
BOOT screen, I am back at point 1 or 2 above

I am already investigating on the BIOS side, ie checking the docs and
so on. My question here is only if there may be anything in how F16
was installed (using or not the MBR for grub, choices of partitions
etc) that may cause a problem like this, and if yes how to fix it.

of course, any comment and help is appreciated, even if not specific
to Fedora.

TIA,
Marco

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Old 12-23-2011, 07:36 PM
Joe Zeff
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

On 12/23/2011 09:04 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:

I am already investigating on the BIOS side, ie checking the docs and
so on. My question here is only if there may be anything in how F16
was installed (using or not the MBR for grub, choices of partitions
etc) that may cause a problem like this, and if yes how to fix it.


No. What you're looking at is something that's working before the boot
process even starts or grub gets loaded. There's something wrong with
your computer, and Linux has nothing to do with it.

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Old 12-23-2011, 07:55 PM
"M. Fioretti"
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:36:41 PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/23/2011 09:04 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:
> >I am already investigating on the BIOS side, ie checking the docs and
> >so on. My question here is only if there may be anything in how F16
> >was installed (using or not the MBR for grub, choices of partitions
> >etc) that may cause a problem like this, and if yes how to fix it.
>
> No. What you're looking at is something that's working before the
> boot process even starts or grub gets loaded. There's something
> wrong with your computer, and Linux has nothing to do with it.

I imagined that, but it's nice to have confirmation, thanks. Any
hypothesis on what may be wrong with the computer is very welcome, of course
(maybe offlist, if it's positive that is not fedora-related).

Marco
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:17 PM
Joe Zeff
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

On 12/23/2011 12:55 PM, M. Fioretti wrote:

I imagined that, but it's nice to have confirmation, thanks. Any
hypothesis on what may be wrong with the computer is very welcome, of course
(maybe offlist, if it's positive that is not fedora-related).


There's either something wrong with your BIOS or your CMOS. In either
case, take it back and get it fixed.

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Old 12-23-2011, 10:23 PM
"M. Fioretti"
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

(note to the other subscribers who already answered: thanks a lot for
your suggestions about erasing CMOS and so on, I'll try them tomorrow
and report). With respect to this:

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 16:11:21 PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:

> Fedora 16 switched to using GPT partition tables on new disks, and
> some BIOSes refuse to boot GPT-labeled disks.
>
> Try running another install, adding "nogpt" to the kernel command
> line.

but is this hypothesis compatible with the fact that the BIOS _does_
boot when I tell it to boot from HD after pressing F10, see my
original message? The problem isn't that it can't ever boot.

It is that, in a nutshell, the BIOS doesn't _remember_ that I had hit
F2, told it to boot from the hard drive first and "saved" that
setting.

TIA,
Marco

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Old 12-23-2011, 10:26 PM
"M. Fioretti"
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

I forgot to ask another thing in my last reply:

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 16:11:21 PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:

> Fedora 16 switched to using GPT partition tables on new disks, and
> some BIOSes refuse to boot GPT-labeled disks.

any pointer to how I may verify if the BIOS of DH61 CR is one of them?

searching "DH61 CR" bios gpt table doesn't return anything useful...

Also, what do you mean by "erase the disk completely"? SHould I run dd
or something from the live CD?

Thanks again,
Marco
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Old 12-24-2011, 08:19 AM
Joe Zeff
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

On 12/24/2011 12:26 AM, JB wrote:

In BIOS, write down the date of your BIOS.


I don't know if it's still true, but shift-Print Screen used to work
from the BIOS setup program, just as it did in DOS. It's worth trying,
and if it works you end up with a complete hard copy of your setup that
can be stored for emergencies.

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Old 12-24-2011, 11:11 AM
Heinz Diehl
 
Default BIOS doesn't see hard drive with Fedora 16, may it be an install issue?

On 23.12.2011, M. Fioretti wrote:

[....]

If this is a laptop, you must have some kind of "entry-key" to get
full access to the bios settings. If you can't permanently change
the boot drive from within there, you have two possibilities left:

1. Get a bios update, flash it and see if things have changed.
2. You have a broken computer/bios. Deliver it back to where it came
from and get your money back.

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