On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote:
>> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original
>> > question.
> ----
> sorry, don't use T-bird and rarely do Chinese, especially 'subject' -
> wife is here with me in the US and don't send her much e-mail these days
> not to mention that my Chinese abilities are minimal (Google Translate
> is more than my friend,

That's OK. I'd forgotten you were finally able to complete the
immigration procedure.

Yet, I hope that someone that actually uses T-Bird, and actually has
their system configured to render Chinese may also have seen this.

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original
>>> > question.
>> ----

Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but I
do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope this
is not hijacking your thread -

When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
else seeing this or am I alone? It happens even if I change the font
(all normal characters though and not Chinese)

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On 12/09/2011 12:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Ed Greshko<Ed.Greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
>> On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>>> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original
>>>>> question.
>>> ----
>
> Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but I
> do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope this
> is not hijacking your thread -

I think your problem is a different problem

> When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
> compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
> lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
> and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
> again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
> also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
> else seeing this or am I alone?
You are not alone ... I am experiencing this as well and can't deny to
find it very annoying.

I am guessing the cause is a malfunction in TB's spellchecker, may-be in
combination with a bug in the X11 server, but I am not sure about it.

Ralf
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On 12/09/2011 07:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
>> On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>>> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original
>>>>> question.
>>> ----
> Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but I
> do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope this
> is not hijacking your thread -
>
> When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
> compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
> lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
> and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
> again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
> also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
> else seeing this or am I alone? It happens even if I change the font
> (all normal characters though and not Chinese)
>
Your problem seems to be different than mine.

I must admit that I'd not done any detailed analysis. I will have to
try composing a message when the condition happens again. As well as
copy/paste to a different window outside of TB.

In my case, since it only affects the Chinese characters I wonder if it
is some sort of memory corruption.

A long time ago, I did see something along the lines of what you
describe. It ended up being a video driver issue.

Hey, since you didn't talk about line lengths there was no hijacking
whatsoever. :-) :-)

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On 12/09/2011 07:29 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 12:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but
>> I do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope
>> this is not hijacking your thread -
> I think your problem is a different problem
>
>> When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
>> compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
>> lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
>> and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
>> again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
>> also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
>> else seeing this or am I alone?
> You are not alone ... I am experiencing this as well and can't deny to
> find it very annoying.
>
> I am guessing the cause is a malfunction in TB's spellchecker, may-be in
> combination with a bug in the X11 server, but I am not sure about it.

I read this after responding to Mike's response.... I think you are
probably on to something with the X server and/or video driver/HW. It
may be helpful to know if you and Mike have similar HW?


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On 12/09/2011 01:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 07:29 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 12/09/2011 12:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
>>> Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but
>>> I do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope
>>> this is not hijacking your thread -
>> I think your problem is a different problem
>>
>>> When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
>>> compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
>>> lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
>>> and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
>>> again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
>>> also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
>>> else seeing this or am I alone?
>> You are not alone ... I am experiencing this as well and can't deny to
>> find it very annoying.
>>
>> I am guessing the cause is a malfunction in TB's spellchecker, may-be in
>> combination with a bug in the X11 server, but I am not sure about it.
>
> I read this after responding to Mike's response.... I think you are
> probably on to something with the X server and/or video driver/HW. It
> may be helpful to know if you and Mike have similar HW?

My GPU is (lspci output)

1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600
GT] (rev a1)

Currently using:
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-27.20110720gitb806e3f.fc16.x86_64
under xfce.

Ralf

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On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 20:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 07:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote:
> >>>> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original
> >>>>> question.
> >>> ----
> > Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but I
> > do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope this
> > is not hijacking your thread -
> >
> > When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
> > compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
> > lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
> > and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
> > again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
> > also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
> > else seeing this or am I alone? It happens even if I change the font
> > (all normal characters though and not Chinese)
> >
> Your problem seems to be different than mine.
>
> I must admit that I'd not done any detailed analysis. I will have to
> try composing a message when the condition happens again. As well as
> copy/paste to a different window outside of TB.
>
> In my case, since it only affects the Chinese characters I wonder if it
> is some sort of memory corruption.
>
> A long time ago, I did see something along the lines of what you
> describe. It ended up being a video driver issue.
>
> Hey, since you didn't talk about line lengths there was no hijacking
> whatsoever. :-) :-)

I had a similar thing happen once or twice with FireFox.

It turns out that there was some sort of goofy permissions issue with
the fonts in /usr/share/fonts

I did the following and got things working:

chown -R root:root /usr/share/fonts/*
chmod -R 755 /usr/share/fonts/*

This might be a bit of overkill on permissions, but I have not had a
problem since...

Cheers,

Chris

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On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 20:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 12/09/2011 07:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/09/2011 12:16 PM, Craig White wrote:
> >>>> But, I do hope that all this doesn't result in a tangent to the original
> >>>>> question.
> >>> ----
> > Although I use Thunderbird (8 and 9) I don't use Chinese chars - but I
> > do have a rendering problem that is quite frustrating and I hope this
> > is not hijacking your thread -
> >
> > When composing with html formatting - there are many times in the
> > compose window that a line will blank out with often some red uneven
> > lines along it - moving the cursor back up and removing a character
> > and retyping it will often fix the rendering and everything is fine
> > again - this has been happening for quite a long time with TB 8 and
> > also 9 but I don't know if this is being worked on for a fix - anyone
> > else seeing this or am I alone? It happens even if I change the font
> > (all normal characters though and not Chinese)
> >
> Your problem seems to be different than mine.
>
> I must admit that I'd not done any detailed analysis. I will have to
> try composing a message when the condition happens again. As well as
> copy/paste to a different window outside of TB.
>
> In my case, since it only affects the Chinese characters I wonder if it
> is some sort of memory corruption.
>
> A long time ago, I did see something along the lines of what you
> describe. It ended up being a video driver issue.
>
> Hey, since you didn't talk about line lengths there was no hijacking
> whatsoever. :-) :-)
----
just thoroughly derailed

Craig


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On 12/09/2011 09:03 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> I had a similar thing happen once or twice with FireFox.
>
> It turns out that there was some sort of goofy permissions issue with
> the fonts in /usr/share/fonts
>
> I did the following and got things working:
>
> chown -R root:root /usr/share/fonts/*
> chmod -R 755 /usr/share/fonts/*
>
> This might be a bit of overkill on permissions, but I have not had a
> problem since...
>

Since the ownership/permissions are static, I can't see how changing
them would resolve my issue. The characters are just "suddenly" not
there. I say "suddenly" since I only notice it on opening the one
account. No idea when/how they went "missing".

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On 12/09/2011 09:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
> just thoroughly derailed

Nope.... My thread, my call.


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