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Old 11-08-2011, 11:36 PM
Pete Travis
 
Default Aaugh! Worthless disk device screen is back!

I use and appreciate this feature.* Its comforting to know that the installer won't mess with disks I tell it not to, and some have mounting requirements I don't want to address until after the install.


I'm glad you were able to work around this to complete your installation.** No software can fit every use case, but if this is your biggest complaint, you'll be OK.

On Nov 8, 2011 5:28 PM, "Tom Horsley" <horsley1953@gmail.com> wrote:
I installed from both the Alpha and Beta DVDs and this didn't

happen, but when I installed from the Fedora 16 release DVD,

I got essentially the same screen I reported back in fedora 13

in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574120



It lists all the disks by model numbers and asks me to sort

through them and decide which ones I want to include as

possibly being a device I might want to install on.



No one could know! Less than 1/10000th of 1% of people are

going to have the model numbers of their disks memorized.



I have to include them all so I can examine the partitions

later and find the one I really want to install on.

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Old 11-08-2011, 11:44 PM
Tom Horsley
 
Default Aaugh! Worthless disk device screen is back!

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:36:35 -0700
Pete Travis wrote:

> I use and appreciate this feature. Its comforting to know that the
> installer won't mess with disks I tell it not to, and some have mounting
> requirements I don't want to address until after the install.

I have disks I don't want the installer to mess with as well,
but I just don't pick partitions on those disks and tell it
to format them (on the screen I get to later).

I can't imagine how the information available on that first
screen allows anyone to select the disks they actually want.
It seems to be a complete waste of time and addition of confusion
for no benefit.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:01 AM
Pete Travis
 
Default Aaugh! Worthless disk device screen is back!

On Nov 8, 2011 5:44 PM, "Tom Horsley" <horsley1953@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:36:35 -0700

> Pete Travis wrote:

>

> > I use and appreciate this feature. *Its comforting to know that the

> > installer won't mess with disks I tell it not to, and some have mounting

> > requirements I don't want to address until after the install.

>

> I have disks I don't want the installer to mess with as well,

> but I just don't pick partitions on those disks and tell it

> to format them (on the screen I get to later).

>

> I can't imagine how the information available on that first

> screen allows anyone to select the disks they actually want.

> It seems to be a complete waste of time and addition of confusion

> for no benefit.

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If you wanted to be *absolutely sure* that anaconda didn't destroy or overwrite the wrong partitions, you would want those partitions completely excluded from the tool that modifies them.


If you wanted to be *absolutely sure* of what data is kept on a drive, you would be keeping track of model and serial numbers.** You might be able to recognize a Debian install based on the partitioning convention you used, but this is not a failsafe or scalable method.



This screen is simply a feature you don't take advantage of.* I don't think that's a problem.


The devil's advocate,

Pete

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Old 11-09-2011, 02:50 PM
Peter Gueckel
 
Default Aaugh! Worthless disk device screen is back!

Pete Travis wrote:

> I use and appreciate this feature. Its comforting to know that the
> installer won't mess with disks I tell it not to

Same here. I have 2 identical hard drives, so the installer lists them both as
exactly the same thing. How can I possibly know which is which? I select both
and examine the partitions to determine which one I want to use. This is safest
for me, as I don't want to risk destroying any data.

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