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Old 10-20-2011, 03:43 AM
Keith Clark
 
Default Samsung ML1640

I cannot seem to get my Samsung ML1640 to work with Fedora. Works plug
and play with Ubuntu with no issues at all. Ideas?

Keith


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Old 10-20-2011, 03:58 AM
Joachim Backes
 
Default Samsung ML1640

On 10/20/2011 05:43 AM, Keith Clark wrote:
> I cannot seem to get my Samsung ML1640 to work with Fedora. Works plug
> and play with Ubuntu with no issues at all. Ideas?
>
> Keith
>
>
Keith,

Did you try UnifiedLinuxDriver_0.86.tar.gz, downloadable from
http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=dk&CttFileID=2745812&CDCt tType=DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=ML-1665&VPath=DR/201001/20100121132724343/UnifiedLinuxDriver_0.86.tar.gz

I'm working with a Samsung ML1660 (*not 1640!*), and I'm using
UnifiedLinuxDriver_0.86.tar.gz which works properly.

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Old 10-20-2011, 03:59 AM
Mark LaPierre
 
Default Samsung ML1640

On 10/19/2011 11:43 PM, Keith Clark wrote:
> I cannot seem to get my Samsung ML1640 to work with Fedora. Works plug
> and play with Ubuntu with no issues at all. Ideas?
>
> Keith
>
>

Samsung has a unified driver for Linux on their web site. I've used it
for several years with my ML-1740 and many different Fedora releases.
It can be a bit cranky getting it set up but it works great with CUPS
and with SAMBA.

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:35 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default Samsung ML1640

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:43:34 -0400, KC (Keith) wrote:

> I cannot seem to get my Samsung ML1640 to work with Fedora. Works plug
> and play with Ubuntu with no issues at all. Ideas?

What have you tried yet? What has happened?

If you run "system-config-printer", you can configure it as ML-1610 as found
in the foomatic-db package. I think there used to be a driver ML-1640, too,
but ML-1610 works since at least Fedora 11. The driver for ML-1650 otoh would
not work, if my notes are correct.

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Old 10-20-2011, 12:55 PM
Keith Clark
 
Default Samsung ML1640

ML1610 is not there anymore.

On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 12:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:43:34 -0400, KC (Keith) wrote:
>
> > I cannot seem to get my Samsung ML1640 to work with Fedora. Works plug
> > and play with Ubuntu with no issues at all. Ideas?
>
> What have you tried yet? What has happened?
>
> If you run "system-config-printer", you can configure it as ML-1610 as found
> in the foomatic-db package. I think there used to be a driver ML-1640, too,
> but ML-1610 works since at least Fedora 11. The driver for ML-1650 otoh would
> not work, if my notes are correct.
>
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> Fedora release 16 (Verne) - Linux 3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc16.x86_64
> loadavg: 0.05 0.05 0.05


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Old 10-20-2011, 05:13 PM
Raphael Groner
 
Default Samsung ML1640

Besides all the prior answers, I could suggest tu use Splix. I used it
with several distribution including Fedora and it works great with my
Samsung ML-1640.

AFAIK Ubuntu ships Splix per default, so I assume that it is used for
Plug&Play.

Take a look at http://splix.ap2c.org/ to get more information.

Although, there's no official package for Fedora. I tried to build one
in past, but can't recall exactly what I did to get it to work.

Here are some links with documentation what I did:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674619
http://sourceforge.net/projects/splix/forums/forum/605559/topic/4084995

Let me know if you are interested to use Splix for Fedora, then I could
try to provide more help.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:44 PM
Fernando Cassia
 
Default Samsung ML1640

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 00:59, Mark LaPierre <marklapier@aol.com> wrote:
> Samsung has a unified driver for Linux on their web site. *I've used it
> for several years with my ML-1740 and many different Fedora releases.

Iīm not very happy to use binary-only drivers, because at some point
they might choose to discontinue them, or those binary drivers might
have dependencies that later cannot be fulfilled (say require an older
glibc version, older version of CUPS than present in future linux
version, etc etc).

Iīm more saddened about the lack of understanding by consumers in
general over the use of more or less OPEN STANDARDS, which in the
world of printing is PCL and PostScript. Get a printer with PCL or
postscript and any OS, from 8-bit Geos to AmigaOS to ancient Unixes to
modern Linux, can work with it.

Yet, all that normal users seems to care about is that a given device
"has Linux drivers". Well, propietary Linux drivers with closed
protocols and languages are not very good either. The device will
become a paperweight as soon as the manufacturer decides to kill it by
not issuing any more linux driver
updates.

Samung lasers use Samsungīs propietary SPL (Samsung Page
description Language). So thereīs no PCL, at all... and yes,Microsoft
was behind SPL... oh the surprise (not!).

-----------
"SPL - Samsung Printer Language

Microsoft and Samsung developed the Samsung Printer Language (SPL).
This enabled the windows GDI language to be converted into bitmap
while printing. The advantage here helped prevent heavy dependence on
the PC memory and processor. The image is rendered during printing
process, which greatly reduces the amount of processing power required
from the PC."
-----------
http://new.undocprint.org/formats/page_description_languages/spl

But wait, thereīs more: thereīs "SPL2" in addition to "SPL".

"QPDL - Quick Page Description Language. Also known as Samsung SPL2.
Is used by Samsung, Xerox and others"

SPL2 aka QPDL (Quick Page Description Language).
http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/splix/doc/1.0/specs-en.pdf

I wonder what was so wrong with PCL and postscript that manufacturers
keep re-inventing the wheel?.

I donīt see a movement by consumers to clearly ask printer
manufacturers to identify the standards used on the box. Is there
one?. This sounds like the kind of effort where the FSF should be
involved.

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Old 10-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Tim
 
Default Samsung ML1640

On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 14:44 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> I donīt see a movement by consumers to clearly ask printer
> manufacturers to identify the standards used on the box. Is there
> one?

The trouble is that most computer users are used to the idea of
installing drivers with hardware (and, unfortunately, used to general
crappiness in products), the concept of a driver-less install is almost
unheard of.

And come the time that their OS has surpassed the driver, their
(generally crappy) printer is nearly worn out, or consumables are hard
to get, or ridiculously expensive, so they'll buy a new one, and repeat
the cycle.

Printers are a prime example of this. They're non-robust plasticky
things. Ink or toner is expensive. Print heads or drums wear out, and
they're expensive. Often, it's cheaper to throw out a printer and buy a
new one when the ink runs out, never mind the other parts of the
printer.

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Old 10-21-2011, 10:32 AM
Fernando Cassia
 
Default Samsung ML1640

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 07:21, Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> *Often, it's cheaper to throw out a printer and buy a
> new one when the ink runs out, never mind the other parts of the
> printer.

I bought a Lexmark Optra 40 because it was an inkjet with a CPU, RAM,
and color postscript. It is over 10 years old and still works, to this
day. Cartridges can still be found. 12a1970 and 12a1980

My color laser, a QMS (now Konica-Minolta) is 5 years old and
standards-based (PCL5). Works like a charm. No, I donīt print a lot, a
dozen pages per month.

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Old 10-21-2011, 10:51 AM
Tim
 
Default Samsung ML1640

Tim:
>> Often, it's cheaper to throw out a printer and buy a
>> new one when the ink runs out, never mind the other parts of the
>> printer.

Fernando Cassia:
> I bought a Lexmark Optra 40 because it was an inkjet with a CPU, RAM,
> and color postscript. It is over 10 years old and still works, to this
> day. Cartridges can still be found. 12a1970 and 12a1980
>
> My color laser, a QMS (now Konica-Minolta) is 5 years old and
> standards-based (PCL5). Works like a charm. No, I donīt print a lot, a
> dozen pages per month.

I probably print less than you. Most of the time I mayn't print
anything for a month or two.

I've two ancient printers that are still in reasonably good working
condition, a HP LaserJet 4L and a HP LaserJet 4M. I'd like to keep
using them, but the quote for one of the toner cartridges was more than
a new printer. Of course, I'll be better off getting the toner
cartridge (and so is the environment), but then I'm assessing this
on-the-whole. Most people will just look at the initial cost.

I've used several other inkjet printers that have convinced me that I
don't want to use a inkjet ever again. They waste so much ink, it
smudges so easy, they clog, the cartridges are way overpriced...

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