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Old 03-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Bob Goodwin
 
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Can someone tell me how to go about copying the all music off an ipod
and then putting some of the files onto another one?


Gtkpod is not intuitive for me anyway ...

Bob Goodwin

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Old 03-18-2008, 10:10 PM
Konstantin Svist
 
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Bob Goodwin wrote:


Can someone tell me how to go about copying the all music off an ipod
and then putting some of the files onto another one?


Gtkpod is not intuitive for me anyway ...

Bob Goodwin



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Old 03-18-2008, 10:31 PM
"Patrick O'Callaghan"
 
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On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 19:05 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Can someone tell me how to go about copying the all music off an ipod
> and then putting some of the files onto another one?

I think you can just drag-and-drop from the ipod to the local
repository, then reverse the process after mounting the other ipod.

> Gtkpod is not intuitive for me anyway ...

Agreed. The documentation is terrible and actions such as Synchronize
don't mean what you would expect.

Of course I also think iTunes is poorly documented and obscure in many
ways.

poc

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Old 03-18-2008, 10:37 PM
Todd Zullinger
 
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Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Can someone tell me how to go about copying the all music off an
> ipod and then putting some of the files onto another one?

Sure. If you have gtkpod started and the ipod is showing up in the
left pane, you right click and select "Copy Tracks to Filesystem."

In the dialog that opens, you browse to the directory to which you
want to export the music. You can specify a format for the exported
files in the filename format box. There is an unfortunate bug that
affects gtkpod on F8 which makes the tooltip that explains the
available formats disappear nearly instantly[1]. The tooltip reads:

"Determines the filename of tracks you copy from the iPod, e.g
'%a/%A/%T - %t.mp3' or '%o'. You can separate several patterns by
semicolons -- gtkpod will determine which one to use by the filename
extension given. Artist: %a, album: %A, composer: %c, title: %t,
genre: %G, track nr: %T, CD nr: %C, year: %Y, original filename
(requires extended information file): %o, current playlist: %p, the
character '%': %%."

If you have mp3 and aac (mp4, m4a) tracks on the ipod, you could use
something like this to organize them by artist/album/tracknum-title:

%a/%A/%T-%t.mp3;%a/%A/%T-%t.m4a;%a/%A/%T-%t.mp4

After you've saved the contents of one ipod, you can then add those
files to another ipod. Perhaps it's best to ensure that this part
works well first, then move on to adding files to the other ipod?

Is the ipod you will be copying to is a newer ipod (classic, video
nano, touch, or iphone)?

[1] I think this might be a gtk bug, but I've not had much luck
tracking it down. If anyone has ideas or has seen similar
problems in other gtk apps on F8, I'd love to hear about it.

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Old 03-19-2008, 01:22 PM
Bob Goodwin
 
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Todd Zullinger wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:


Can someone tell me how to go about copying the all music off an
ipod and then putting some of the files onto another one?



Sure. If you have gtkpod started and the ipod is showing up in the
left pane, you right click and select "Copy Tracks to Filesystem."

In the dialog that opens, you browse to the directory to which you
want to export the music. You can specify a format for the exported
files in the filename format box. There is an unfortunate bug that
affects gtkpod on F8 which makes the tooltip that explains the
available formats disappear nearly instantly[1]. The tooltip reads:

"Determines the filename of tracks you copy from the iPod, e.g
'%a/%A/%T - %t.mp3' or '%o'. You can separate several patterns by
semicolons -- gtkpod will determine which one to use by the filename
extension given. Artist: %a, album: %A, composer: %c, title: %t,
genre: %G, track nr: %T, CD nr: %C, year: %Y, original filename
(requires extended information file): %o, current playlist: %p, the
character '%': %%."

If you have mp3 and aac (mp4, m4a) tracks on the ipod, you could use
something like this to organize them by artist/album/tracknum-title:

%a/%A/%T-%t.mp3;%a/%A/%T-%t.m4a;%a/%A/%T-%t.mp4

After you've saved the contents of one ipod, you can then add those
files to another ipod. Perhaps it's best to ensure that this part
works well first, then move on to adding files to the other ipod?

Is the ipod you will be copying to is a newer ipod (classic, video
nano, touch, or iphone)?

[1] I think this might be a gtk bug, but I've not had much luck
tracking it down. If anyone has ideas or has seen similar
problems in other gtk apps on F8, I'd love to hear about it.





Ok, that seems to permit me to save files from the iPods using gtkpod.

Playing back the files I saved seems simplest using Amarok.
Unfortunately the iPod I have to experiment with this morning

belongs to a teen aged grandson and contains nothing but whining
adolescents singing, a horror to work with!

The files on the iPod are grouped such as "Top Rated," etc. and I
have only been able to copy those groups into newly created
directories. I would prefer to be able to copy the entire contents
of the iPod in on fell swoop. I'm still looking at that.

Thanks to all for your help.

Bob Goodwin



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Old 03-19-2008, 03:15 PM
Adam Hough
 
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On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 10:22 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Todd Zullinger wrote:
> > Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >
> >> Can someone tell me how to go about copying the all music off an
> >> ipod and then putting some of the files onto another one?
> >>
> >
> > Sure. If you have gtkpod started and the ipod is showing up in the
> > left pane, you right click and select "Copy Tracks to Filesystem."
> >
> > In the dialog that opens, you browse to the directory to which you
> > want to export the music. You can specify a format for the exported
> > files in the filename format box. There is an unfortunate bug that
> > affects gtkpod on F8 which makes the tooltip that explains the
> > available formats disappear nearly instantly[1]. The tooltip reads:
> >
> > "Determines the filename of tracks you copy from the iPod, e.g
> > '%a/%A/%T - %t.mp3' or '%o'. You can separate several patterns by
> > semicolons -- gtkpod will determine which one to use by the filename
> > extension given. Artist: %a, album: %A, composer: %c, title: %t,
> > genre: %G, track nr: %T, CD nr: %C, year: %Y, original filename
> > (requires extended information file): %o, current playlist: %p, the
> > character '%': %%."
> >
> > If you have mp3 and aac (mp4, m4a) tracks on the ipod, you could use
> > something like this to organize them by artist/album/tracknum-title:
> >
> > %a/%A/%T-%t.mp3;%a/%A/%T-%t.m4a;%a/%A/%T-%t.mp4
> >
> > After you've saved the contents of one ipod, you can then add those
> > files to another ipod. Perhaps it's best to ensure that this part
> > works well first, then move on to adding files to the other ipod?
> >
> > Is the ipod you will be copying to is a newer ipod (classic, video
> > nano, touch, or iphone)?
> >
> > [1] I think this might be a gtk bug, but I've not had much luck
> > tracking it down. If anyone has ideas or has seen similar
> > problems in other gtk apps on F8, I'd love to hear about it.
> >
> >
>
> Ok, that seems to permit me to save files from the iPods using gtkpod.
>
> Playing back the files I saved seems simplest using Amarok.
> Unfortunately the iPod I have to experiment with this morning
> belongs to a teen aged grandson and contains nothing but whining
> adolescents singing, a horror to work with!
>
> The files on the iPod are grouped such as "Top Rated," etc. and I
> have only been able to copy those groups into newly created
> directories. I would prefer to be able to copy the entire contents
> of the iPod in on fell swoop. I'm still looking at that.
>
> Thanks to all for your help.
>
> Bob Goodwin
>
>
>

To extract all songs from an ipod, create a playlist that contains all
songs or select all songs on the ipod in gtkpod. Then in gtkpod select
"file" > "Export Tracks From Database" and then select either "Selected
Playlist" or "Selected Tracks" depending one what you did earlier.


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Old 03-19-2008, 03:56 PM
Todd Zullinger
 
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Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Ok, that seems to permit me to save files from the iPods using
> gtkpod. Playing back the files I saved seems simplest using Amarok.
> Unfortunately the iPod I have to experiment with this morning
> belongs to a teen aged grandson and contains nothing but whining
> adolescents singing, a horror to work with!

;-)

> The files on the iPod are grouped such as "Top Rated," etc. and I
> have only been able to copy those groups into newly created
> directories. I would prefer to be able to copy the entire contents
> of the iPod in on fell swoop. I'm still looking at that.

Ahh, if you want to copy the playlists as well as the music, then I
think Patrick's suggestion may be simplest. You should even be able
to connect both ipods at once, and then drag the playlists from one
ipod to the other.

I'd guess that some of those playlists are what are known as "Smart
Playlists." You won't get what you want if you simply copy the files
currently in them. A smart playlist is really a query. The playlist
is updated dynamically. Top rated might be "all tracks that are rated
4 or better." When you rate new tracks or change the ratings of
existing tracks, the playlist contents are updated automatically.

Using the drag and drop method should preserve the smart playlists
properly.

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Old 03-19-2008, 11:28 PM
Tim
 
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On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 10:22 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Unfortunately the iPod I have to experiment with this morning
> belongs to a teen aged grandson and contains nothing but whining
> adolescents singing, a horror to work with!

Now's your chance to put some proper music on it... ;-)

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:17 AM
Bob Goodwin
 
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Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 10:22 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:


Unfortunately the iPod I have to experiment with this morning
belongs to a teen aged grandson and contains nothing but whining
adolescents singing, a horror to work with!



Now's your chance to put some proper music on it... ;-)




I never did succeed in saving to the iPod! I changed a .wmv to an
.mp3 and put it in the gtkpod list without much trouble but
apparently I would have to load the entire list back into the device
and I didn't have the courage to try that.

The kid took his iPod back as soon as he came in from school, he's
really worried about it, it's a new one and right off he left it in
his pants pocket and it went through the washer and dryer. The
display went black, my comment was throw it away. His mother let it
dry for a few days and viola, it works again!

There are two more iPods around so I'll get another chance at one
before long. The mother has one with a better selection on it.

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:29 AM
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Bob Goodwin wrote:
> There are two more iPods around so I'll get another chance at one
> before long. The mother has one with a better selection on it.

You can use a tool like rsync to backup the contents of the ipod
before you do anything to it, just in case some tinkering leaves it in
a strange state. I'd do that if I was worried about breaking
someone's music player.

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