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Old 10-16-2011, 12:57 PM
Fulko Hew
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 16:35 +1100, Roger wrote:

> Isn't eth0 for ethernet?



Ethernet was badly named in the first place, it's carried by wires, not

going through the ether (wireless). *:-

The original Ethernet was based on CSMA techniques, spearheaded by the
Aloha protocol at the University of Hawaii, and Aloha was done over radios.


So what goes around... comes around.


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Old 10-16-2011, 01:22 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On 10/16/2011 02:18 PM, agraham wrote:

> I agree in principle with this change, but not the "renaming" of
> existing "well know" device names such that the opposite effect is
> caused by the implementation.

Then you missed out on some important reasons why the current
implementation is the way it is. Do read the comments as well

domsch.com/blog/?p=455

Rahul
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:23 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On 10/16/2011 05:57 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

> We've had folks in this thread talking about the challenges of
> managing server farms with gazillions of ethernet ports on each server.
> Just how helpful are consistent names if they change when the server
> gets an update? Wouldn't that be fun on a server farm?

Names don't change in a update ever.

Rahul
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:34 PM
Tom Horsley
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:53:39 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Names don't change in a update ever.

They just did. My ethernet port was p4p1 when I
installed f15. I got the latest biosdevname update
the other day and the name changed to p6p1.
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:36 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On 10/16/2011 07:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:53:39 +0530
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> Names don't change in a update ever.
>
> They just did. My ethernet port was p4p1 when I
> installed f15. I got the latest biosdevname update
> the other day and the name changed to p6p1.

That seems to be a bug. You should consider reporting it.

Rahul

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:09 PM
Tom Horsley
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:06:10 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> That seems to be a bug. You should consider reporting it.

Looks like someone already did. I added some info to it:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746393
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:36 PM
"Daniel B. Thurman"
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On 10/16/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:06:10 +0530
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>> That seems to be a bug. You should consider reporting it.
> Looks like someone already did. I added some info to it:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746393
I read it... wow... bug works in progress...
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:40 PM
"Daniel B. Thurman"
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On 10/16/2011 06:22 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> domsch.com/blog/?p=455

Server timed out.... so I cannot read it...

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Old 10-16-2011, 09:10 PM
Robert Myers
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Daniel B. Thurman <dant@cdkkt.com> wrote:
> On 10/16/2011 08:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:06:10 +0530
>> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>
>>> That seems to be a bug. *You should consider reporting it.
>> Looks like someone already did. I added some info to it:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746393
> I read it... wow... *bug works in progress...

Just like an old Western. The wagons were quickly set up in a circle,
to no avail. Too many Indians.

Robert.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:20 AM
Chris Adams
 
Default Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

Once upon a time, agraham <agraham@g-b.net> said:
> That should have translated into eth0 is "ALWAYS" the first device, eth1
> is "ALWAYS" the second device etc.. the biosdevname should have then
> been used to create that relationship and _nothing else_.

Define "first". Hint: that's not a solvable problem on general PC
hardware (thus, biosdevname). There have been many problems over the
years where the ordering changed on some hardware from one kernel
release to the next.

Linux is the only OS I've used that named all wired ethernet (and some
wireless, depending on driver, which is even more confusing) interfaces
the same thing.

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