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Old 07-19-2011, 01:30 AM
Matthew Saltzman
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:28 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> I couldn't get it to work with exchange.
> I'm told Microsoft is holding up IMAP requests.
> I did get it to work with cableone.
> The relevant account is a thin wrapper on gmail.
> I have the mail I want, sort of.
> I had to hit forward rather a lot.
> So all my messages are wrapped in forwarding boilerplate.
> Is there a convenient way I can unwrap them?

There's a form of forwarding usually denoted "redirect". If you can set
the forwarding type in the forwarding account to redirect, the received
message will look like the original (I think). I'm pretty sure Exchange
is capable of this.

>
> --
> Michael hennebry@web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
> "Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
> Optimist: The glass is half full.
> Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
>

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Old 07-19-2011, 01:30 AM
Matthew Saltzman
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:28 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> I couldn't get it to work with exchange.
> I'm told Microsoft is holding up IMAP requests.
> I did get it to work with cableone.
> The relevant account is a thin wrapper on gmail.
> I have the mail I want, sort of.
> I had to hit forward rather a lot.
> So all my messages are wrapped in forwarding boilerplate.
> Is there a convenient way I can unwrap them?

There's a form of forwarding usually denoted "redirect". If you can set
the forwarding type in the forwarding account to redirect, the received
message will look like the original (I think). I'm pretty sure Exchange
is capable of this.

>
> --
> Michael hennebry@web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
> "Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
> Optimist: The glass is half full.
> Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
>

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Old 07-19-2011, 02:01 AM
"Mikkel L. Ellertson"
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

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On 07/18/2011 08:30 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:28 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't get it to work with exchange.
>> I'm told Microsoft is holding up IMAP requests.
>> I did get it to work with cableone.
>> The relevant account is a thin wrapper on gmail.
>> I have the mail I want, sort of.
>> I had to hit forward rather a lot.
>> So all my messages are wrapped in forwarding boilerplate.
>> Is there a convenient way I can unwrap them?
>
> There's a form of forwarding usually denoted "redirect". If you can set
> the forwarding type in the forwarding account to redirect, the received
> message will look like the original (I think). I'm pretty sure Exchange
> is capable of this.
>
You could try using fetchmail to get the messages. I believe Gmail
supports POP3. I know it supports IMAP.

For the mail you have, you could probably use sed to remove the
forwarding "boiler plate". Exactly how you will want to do it
depends on if the messages are in one big file, or separate files.

Mikkel
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:33 PM
Michael Hennebry
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

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>
> On 07/18/2011 08:30 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
>> On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:28 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn't get it to work with exchange.
>>> I'm told Microsoft is holding up IMAP requests.
>>> I did get it to work with cableone.
>>> The relevant account is a thin wrapper on gmail.
>>> I have the mail I want, sort of.
>>> I had to hit forward rather a lot.
>>> So all my messages are wrapped in forwarding boilerplate.
>>> Is there a convenient way I can unwrap them?
>>
>> There's a form of forwarding usually denoted "redirect". If you can set
>> the forwarding type in the forwarding account to redirect, the received
>> message will look like the original (I think). I'm pretty sure Exchange
>> is capable of this.
>>
> You could try using fetchmail to get the messages. I believe Gmail
> supports POP3. I know it supports IMAP.

I forwarded the 300+ messages to a gmail account one at a time.
I got them on my hard drive using fetchmail.

> For the mail you have, you could probably use sed to remove the
> forwarding "boiler plate". Exactly how you will want to do it
> depends on if the messages are in one big file, or separate files.

For a one-off, I think I'd use python before
sed for something especially complicated.

The problem is I don't understand the syntax well enough to know what to do.
When I vim the mbox, I often see what appeared
to me to be random bits of base-64.

Now I think I have a clue.
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
means that the entire forwarded message text is in base-64
If I remove that line and decode the following base-64,
I should at least get a better look at what else I need to undo.

I was rather hoping that I was not the first person that wanted
to do this and that there was a canned solution somewhere.

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Old 07-20-2011, 12:46 PM
"Mikkel L. Ellertson"
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

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On 07/19/2011 11:33 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
>> For the mail you have, you could probably use sed to remove the
>> forwarding "boiler plate". Exactly how you will want to do it
>> depends on if the messages are in one big file, or separate files.
>
> For a one-off, I think I'd use python before
> sed for something especially complicated.
>
I guess I did not see it as complicated. But this was before you
said the message was base 64 encoded. But I would use a sed script
file, not the command line.

Remove the forwarding header by matching the start/finish as an
address range. Delete that range.

For me, it would be:

/Delivered-To:/,/-------- Original Message --------/d

You may need s@^> @@ if you get "> " added when forwarding messages.

Mikkel
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:45 PM
Michael Hennebry
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

> I guess I did not see it as complicated. But this was before you
> said the message was base 64 encoded. But I would use a sed script
> file, not the command line.
>
> Remove the forwarding header by matching the start/finish as an
> address range. Delete that range.
>
> For me, it would be:
>
> /Delivered-To:/,/-------- Original Message --------/d
>
> You may need s@^> @@ if you get "> " added when forwarding messages.

Mostly, I don't have an -------- Original Message -------- marker.
For example:
> B
> From Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu Sat Jul 16 13:55:33 2011
> Delivered-To: hennebry2@cableone.net
> Received: from gmail-imap.l.google.com [74.125.159.109] by
> localhost.localdomain with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.20) for
> <hennebry@localhost> (single-drop); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:55:33 -0500
> (CDT)
> Received: by 10.231.11.135 with SMTP id t7cs87786ibt; Tue, 28 Jun 2011
> 07:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
> ... (tremendous number of rather long headers)
> Received: from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local ([10.8.234.244]) by
> VA3DIAHUB012.RED001.local ([10.32.17.80]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Jun 2011
> 07:38:37 -0700
> From: "Hennebry, Michael" <Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu>
> To: "hennebry2@cableone.net" <hennebry2@cableone.net>
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:38:25 -0700
> Subject: FW: Friday
> Thread-Topic: Friday
> Thread-Index: AQHMNaEJk7UiZNUdTkGrLcWWR+R62Q==
> Message-ID:
> <1B4F43608EA4A74A8C291C5EA586692519A68385B5@VA3DIA XVS711.RED001.local>
> References: <DA1SHMA010adf52d97c403470eba87e4bdd4abeff1@da1shm a010>
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> Content-Language: en-US
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> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Return-Path: Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu
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> From Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu Sat Jul 16 13:55:34 2011

The ". "s are mine.

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Old 07-20-2011, 05:25 PM
"Mikkel L. Ellertson"
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

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On 07/20/2011 11:45 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
>> I guess I did not see it as complicated. But this was before you
>> said the message was base 64 encoded. But I would use a sed script
>> file, not the command line.
>>
>> Remove the forwarding header by matching the start/finish as an
>> address range. Delete that range.
>>
>> For me, it would be:
>>
>> /Delivered-To:/,/-------- Original Message --------/d
>>
>> You may need s@^> @@ if you get "> " added when forwarding messages.
>
> Mostly, I don't have an -------- Original Message -------- marker.
> For example:
>> B
>> From Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu Sat Jul 16 13:55:33 2011
>> Delivered-To: hennebry2@cableone.net
>> Received: from gmail-imap.l.google.com [74.125.159.109] by
>> localhost.localdomain with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.20) for
>> <hennebry@localhost> (single-drop); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:55:33 -0500
>> (CDT)
>> Received: by 10.231.11.135 with SMTP id t7cs87786ibt; Tue, 28 Jun 2011
>> 07:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
>> ... (tremendous number of rather long headers)
>> Received: from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local ([10.8.234.244]) by
>> VA3DIAHUB012.RED001.local ([10.32.17.80]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Jun 2011
>> 07:38:37 -0700
>> From: "Hennebry, Michael" <Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu>
>> To: "hennebry2@cableone.net" <hennebry2@cableone.net>
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:38:25 -0700
>> Subject: FW: Friday
>> Thread-Topic: Friday
>> Thread-Index: AQHMNaEJk7UiZNUdTkGrLcWWR+R62Q==
>> Message-ID:
>> <1B4F43608EA4A74A8C291C5EA586692519A68385B5@VA3DIA XVS711.RED001.local>
>> References: <DA1SHMA010adf52d97c403470eba87e4bdd4abeff1@da1shm a010>
>> In-Reply-To: <DA1SHMA010adf52d97c403470eba87e4bdd4abeff1@da1shm a010>
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>> Content-Language: en-US
>> X-MS-Has-Attach:
>> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
>> acceptlanguage: en-US
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Return-Path: Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu
>> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390
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>>
>> From Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu Sat Jul 16 13:55:34 2011
>
> The ". "s are mine.
>
You could use:

Received: from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local ([10.8.234.244]) by
VA3DIAHUB012.RED001.local ([10.32.17.80])

or just part of that line that would not match other headers. But if
the mail is in one big file, then it would probably delete parts you
do not want it to. IE any messages from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local

Mikkel
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:37 PM
"Mikkel L. Ellertson"
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

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On 07/20/2011 11:45 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
>> I guess I did not see it as complicated. But this was before you
>> said the message was base 64 encoded. But I would use a sed script
>> file, not the command line.
>>
>> Remove the forwarding header by matching the start/finish as an
>> address range. Delete that range.
>>
>> For me, it would be:
>>
>> /Delivered-To:/,/-------- Original Message --------/d
>>
>> You may need s@^> @@ if you get "> " added when forwarding messages.
>
> Mostly, I don't have an -------- Original Message -------- marker.
> For example:
<------------------------[snip]----------------------->
>
I forgot to mention that if the mail is in one big file, it can be
split using formail. It will also do some headers. You will have to
check the docs to see how much of the work it will do for you. I
have never used it to strip forwarding headers.

Mikkel
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:44 PM
Michael Hennebry
 
Default How do I "unforward" mail, was How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 07/20/2011 11:45 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>
>>> I guess I did not see it as complicated. But this was before you
>>> said the message was base 64 encoded. But I would use a sed script
>>> file, not the command line.
>>>
>>> Remove the forwarding header by matching the start/finish as an
>>> address range. Delete that range.
>>>
>>> For me, it would be:
>>>
>>> /Delivered-To:/,/-------- Original Message --------/d

I think that were it not for base-64,
this would wipe out all the headers exept the first.
It also wouldn't leave a blank line to bound the body.

Can I get rid of the base-64 by decoding it and removing
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 ?

>>> You may need s@^> @@ if you get "> " added when forwarding messages.
>>
>> Mostly, I don't have an -------- Original Message -------- marker.
>> For example:
>>> B
>>> From Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu Sat Jul 16 13:55:33 2011
>>> Delivered-To: hennebry2@cableone.net
>>> Received: from gmail-imap.l.google.com [74.125.159.109] by
>>> localhost.localdomain with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.20) for
>>> <hennebry@localhost> (single-drop); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:55:33 -0500
>>> (CDT)
>>> Received: by 10.231.11.135 with SMTP id t7cs87786ibt; Tue, 28 Jun 2011
>>> 07:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
>>> ... (tremendous number of rather long headers)
>>> Received: from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local ([10.8.234.244]) by
>>> VA3DIAHUB012.RED001.local ([10.32.17.80]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Jun 2011
>>> 07:38:37 -0700
>>> From: "Hennebry, Michael" <Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu>
>>> To: "hennebry2@cableone.net" <hennebry2@cableone.net>
>>> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:38:25 -0700
>>> Subject: FW: Friday
>>> Thread-Topic: Friday
>>> Thread-Index: AQHMNaEJk7UiZNUdTkGrLcWWR+R62Q==
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1B4F43608EA4A74A8C291C5EA586692519A68385B5@VA3DIA XVS711.RED001.local>
>>> References: <DA1SHMA010adf52d97c403470eba87e4bdd4abeff1@da1shm a010>
>>> In-Reply-To: <DA1SHMA010adf52d97c403470eba87e4bdd4abeff1@da1shm a010>
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>>> Content-Language: en-US
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>>> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
>>> acceptlanguage: en-US
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> Return-Path: Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu
>>> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390
>>> R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 )
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>>> X-pstn-addresses: from <Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu> [db-null]
>>>
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>>> From Michael.Hennebry@ndsu.edu Sat Jul 16 13:55:34 2011
>>
>> The ". "s are mine.
>>
> You could use:
>
> Received: from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local ([10.8.234.244]) by
> VA3DIAHUB012.RED001.local ([10.32.17.80])
>
> or just part of that line that would not match other headers. But if
> the mail is in one big file, then it would probably delete parts you
> do not want it to. IE any messages from VA3DIAXVS711.RED001.local
>
> Mikkel
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>
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