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Old 06-10-2011, 04:22 PM
Petrus de Calguarium
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Petrus de Calguarium wrote:

> Should I just put in a fake number to see if it will work?

The fake telephone number worked. I am now a contributor, but I don't know what
I can contribute. I will see if I can add the nspluginwrapper stuff I had
mentioned earlier in this thread to the wiki.

I have always found the wiki to be a real mess, because, as a fedora consumer,
I have found it to be largely useless, since it does not have an index and,
unless you know what you are looking for, it is like being an ox in front of a
mountain. There is no way to get meaningful information.

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Old 06-10-2011, 04:42 PM
Tom Horsley
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:22:06 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:

> I have found it to be largely useless, since it does not have an index

That's what the "site:" syntax in google searches if good for :-).
I just wish the wiki had a "search this site in google" widget
built in to every page automatically.
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:15 PM
Jamie Paul Griffin
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

On 10 June 2011 17:42, Tom Horsley <horsley1953@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:22:06 -0600
> Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>
> > I have found it to be largely useless, since it does not have an index
>
> That's what the "site:" syntax in google searches if good for :-).
> I just wish the wiki had a "search this site in google" widget
> built in to every page automatically.
>

I installed F15 yesterday and got flash working first time, no hassle;
in fact, i was very surprised at how trouble-free the process was
compared to attempts made in the past.*I*have also got it working
perfectly in Google Chrome.

I'm really impressed with this version of the*distribution*and the new
gnome desktop. they've done a fantastic job.

I hope you get your flash working. I simply used the yum download from
Adobe's site but that probably won't help you much, sorry about that.
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:26 PM
Petrus de Calguarium
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Tom Horsley wrote:

> That's what the "site:" syntax in google searches if good for :-).

Thanks for the tip! I will definitely be using it.

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Old 06-10-2011, 06:53 PM
Andre Robatino
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Petrus de Calguarium <pgueckel@...> writes:

>
> Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
>
> > Then, I run, as root (not sure if you need to cd
> > /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, but it can't hurt, just in case):
> >
> > mozilla-plugin-config -i
> >
>
> I forgot to mention, in case you are copying the tarball by hand into the
> plugin directory... Make sure that ownership is root:root, otherwise the
> command will not work.
>
> After running the command, verify by going to the directory
> /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped and you will see a new entry
>
> nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so

What does running this command manually do that restarting the browser
doesn't? I've never had to run mozilla-plugin-config manually. I install
flash-plugin from the repo (either Adobe's 32-bit or Leigh's 64-bit) with the
necessary extra packages from the instructions, then quit and restart the
browser. A little testing shows that the nswrapper_??_??.libflashplayer.so file
is created automatically when the browser is restarted (part of the "check the
plugin" instructions). Running "mozilla-plugin-config -i" creates the file, but
the browser doesn't immediately recognize it, so I have to restart the browser
anyway.




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Old 06-11-2011, 06:19 PM
Andre Robatino
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Andre Robatino <robatino <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:

>
> Petrus de Calguarium <pgueckel@...> writes:
>
> >
> > Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> >
> > > Then, I run, as root (not sure if you need to cd
> > > /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, but it can't hurt, just in case):
> > >
> > > mozilla-plugin-config -i
> > >
> >
> > I forgot to mention, in case you are copying the tarball by hand into the
> > plugin directory... Make sure that ownership is root:root, otherwise the
> > command will not work.
> >
> > After running the command, verify by going to the directory
> > /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped and you will see a new entry
> >
> > nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so
>
> What does running this command manually do that restarting the browser
> doesn't? I've never had to run mozilla-plugin-config manually. I install
> flash-plugin from the repo (either Adobe's 32-bit or Leigh's 64-bit) with the
> necessary extra packages from the instructions, then quit and restart the
> browser. A little testing shows that the nswrapper_??_??.libflashplayer.so file
> is created automatically when the browser is restarted (part of the "check the
> plugin" instructions). Running "mozilla-plugin-config -i" creates the file, but
> the browser doesn't immediately recognize it, so I have to restart the browser
> anyway.

The reason I ask is that the current instructions at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash tell _everyone_ (both on 32- and 64-bit) to
run mozilla-plugin-config. I know it's not always necessary (since it's never
been necessary for me). I intend to at least qualify this part of the
instructions to indicate WHO (if anyone) needs to run mozilla-plugin-config.
(For example, does it have something to do with using a non-Mozilla browser?
I've always used Firefox.) Adding unnecessary instructions makes it more likely
that someone will fail to do one of the essential ones, so it's NOT cost-free,
and enough people have trouble making the plugin work as it is. (I spent
significant time figuring out the shortest possible yum install commands for
this exact reason.) If the command IS actually necessary, it would also be good
to determine if it's necessary to do the cd command first, and remove it if not,
for the same reason.




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Old 06-11-2011, 09:56 PM
Petrus de Calguarium
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Andre Robatino wrote:

> If the command IS actually necessary, it would also be good
> to determine if it's necessary to do the cd command first, and remove it
> if not, for the same reason.

That is for experts to ascertain.

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Old 06-11-2011, 10:24 PM
Andre Robatino
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Petrus de Calguarium <pgueckel@...> writes:

>
> Andre Robatino wrote:
>
> > If the command IS actually necessary, it would also be good
> > to determine if it's necessary to do the cd command first, and remove it
> > if not, for the same reason.
>
> That is for experts to ascertain.

Anyone who actually _needs_ to run mozilla-plugin-config manually to make the
plugin work could determine this by simple testing - going through the
instructions leaving out the cd command. In any case, mozilla-plugin-config is a
very short script, and I removed the cd instructions from the wiki after reading
it and deciding they weren't necessary. It invokes
/usr/lib*/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config, which is a binary, so I can't be
absolutely sure, but since I'm not affected, I can't determine by testing.




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Old 06-11-2011, 11:00 PM
Petrus de Calguarium
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

Andre Robatino wrote:

> I removed the cd instructions from the wiki after reading
> it and deciding they weren't necessary.

Suit yourself. It is a wiki, and as I understand it, it can be edited by any
contributor. If you are privy to information that supercedes the current
information, then you should change it, I guess, to better serve those who will
refer to it in the future.

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Old 06-12-2011, 12:01 AM
Tom Horsley
 
Default Flash plugin stalls Firefox in Fedora 15

On another related note: For me, I can't get all flash pages
to work unless I completely remove nspluginwrapper:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712545
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