Unable to microphone

06-05-2011, 01:49 AM

On F14.
Pulseaudio daemion is running.
I can hear media playing.
But I am unable to use microphone.
i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder
or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
is picking my voice.
gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
Neither one is working.
I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?

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06-05-2011, 02:50 AM

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD <jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
> On F14.
> Pulseaudio daemion is running.
> I can hear media playing.
> But I am unable to use microphone.
> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
> with, (as in skype, or *gnome-sound-recorder
> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
> is picking my voice.
> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
> Neither one is working.
> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?

Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
two sliders and move *one* to mute.

Does that give you any capture volume?

/Mike
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06-05-2011, 03:20 AM

On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD<jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On F14.
>> Pulseaudio daemion is running.
>> I can hear media playing.
>> But I am unable to use microphone.
>> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
>> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder
>> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
>> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
>> is picking my voice.
>> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
>> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
>> Neither one is working.
>> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?
> Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
> two sliders and move *one* to mute.
>
> Does that give you any capture volume?
>
> /Mike
Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way
back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice
in the right speaker.
Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back.
Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker.
the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording.
The level meter does not budge.

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06-05-2011, 03:33 AM

Hi,

Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA
Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under
/etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line:
options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1

and save it.

After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back.

Cu,

Zoltan

2011/6/5 JD <jd1008@gmail.com>:
> On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD<jd1008@gmail.com> *wrote:
>>> On F14.
>>> Pulseaudio daemion is running.
>>> I can hear media playing.
>>> But I am unable to use microphone.
>>> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
>>> with, (as in skype, or *gnome-sound-recorder
>>> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
>>> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
>>> is picking my voice.
>>> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
>>> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
>>> Neither one is working.
>>> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?
>> Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
>> two sliders and move *one* to mute.
>>
>> Does that give you any capture volume?
>>
>> /Mike
> Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way
> back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice
> in the right speaker.
> Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back.
> Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker.
> the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording.
> The level meter does not budge.
>
>
>
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06-05-2011, 04:56 PM

On 06/04/2011 11:33 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:

Hi,

Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA
Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under
/etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line:
options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1

and save it.

After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back.

Cu,

Zoltan

2011/6/5 JD <jd1008@gmail.com>:

On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote:

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD<jd1008@gmail.com> *wrote:

On F14.
Pulseaudio daemion is running.
I can hear media playing.
But I am unable to use microphone.
i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
with, (as in skype, or *gnome-sound-recorder
or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
is picking my voice.
gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
Neither one is working.
I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?

Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
two sliders and move *one* to mute.

Does that give you any capture volume?

/Mike

Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way
back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice
in the right speaker.
Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back.
Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker.
the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording.
The level meter does not budge.

Everyone:

I have never been able to get F14 or any other flavor of
Fedora to recognize any microphone that I have used.

I tried it with a Dell Inspiron 2500. The built-in videocam worked,
but the mike? No joy.

Then I tried it on a mini-tower with a Plantronics USB stereo
headset with microphone. Again no joy.

And just to be sure, I plugged it into another box that had Windows
7 installed. And there it worked. I used Skype and talked with
someone for an hour and a half.

So: what is wrong with Fedora and microphones?

Temlakos

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06-05-2011, 05:22 PM

On 06/05/2011 09:56 AM, Temlakos wrote:
> And just to be sure, I plugged it into another box that had Windows 7
> installed. And there it worked. I used Skype and talked with someone for
> an hour and a half.

Just to be sure, try booting that box from a LiveCD and see if the mic
works. It's not very likely that both of your Linux boxen have matching
hardware issues, but this is a quick, simple way to eliminate that
possibility.
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06-05-2011, 06:32 PM

On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:

Hi,

Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA
Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under
/etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line:
options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1

and save it.

After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back.

Cu,

Zoltan

2011/6/5 JD <jd1008@gmail.com>:

On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote:

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD<jd1008@gmail.com> *wrote:

On F14.
Pulseaudio daemion is running.
I can hear media playing.
But I am unable to use microphone.
i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
with, (as in skype, or *gnome-sound-recorder
or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
is picking my voice.
gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
Neither one is working.
I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?

Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
two sliders and move *one* to mute.

Does that give you any capture volume?

/Mike

Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way
back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice
in the right speaker.
Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back.
Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker.
the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording.
The level meter does not budge.

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Tried it.

Did not help at all.

Skype still cannot hear the mic.

Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices),

I only have the option of pulseaudio for both

mic and audio out.

When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the

input is Capture, and it does not provide any options.

When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me

adrop down menu,* Capture text box just turns blue.

This is really great support for audio

I do not recall having this problem prior

to pulseaudio.

I checked to see what I can do about pulseaudio, and I see that
these

are all the pulseaudio and related packages and just a short
chain

of dependencies (I dod not do an exhastive dependency search,
but

you will see that it is impossible to remove some of the
packages

without killing your system

alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

kde-settings-pulseaudio************************

pulseaudio************************

pulseaudio-equalizer***********************

pulseaudio-compat***********************

pulseaudio-gdm-hooks************************

pulseaudio-libs************************

pulseaudio-libs-devel***********************

pulseaudio-libs-glib2***********************

pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf**********************

pulseaudio-module-bluetooth************************

pulseaudio-module-gconf************************

pulseaudio-module-jack************************

pulseaudio-module-lirc***********************

pulseaudio-module-x11***********************

pulseaudio-module-zeroconf************************

pulseaudio-utils************************

wine-pulseaudio****

Here is a short list of dependents on these packages:

========================

alsa-plugins-pulseaudio is required by

kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.5-11.fc14.noarch

========================

========================

pulseaudio-module-x11 is required by

kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.5-11.fc14.noarch

========================

========================

pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is required by

gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686

bluedevil-1.1-2.fc14.i686

========================

========================

pulseaudio-gdm-hooks is required by

gdm-2.32.1-2.fc14.i686*********************** <<<< I
think this is a killer dependency. If I

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* * *** remove pulseaudio-gdm-hooks, I lose

************************************************** *********************
gdm.

========================

========================

pulseaudio-libs is required by

libcanberra-0.25-4.fc14.i686

* *** *
libcanberra is required by

** ** * libcanberra-gtk2-0.25-4.fc14.i686

* *** * libcanberra-gtk3-0.25-4.fc14.i686

* *** * libcanberra-devel-0.25-4.fc14.i686

* *** * gnome-packagekit-2.32.0-2.fc14.i686* <<<<
Another killer dependency

* *** * gnome-power-manager-2.32.0-3.fc14.i686 <<<<
Another killer
dependency

pulseaudio-utils-0.9.21-7.fc14.i686

pavucontrol-0.9.10-1.fc13.i686*** <<<< Another killer dependency

pulseaudio-libs-devel-0.9.21-7.fc14.i686

pulsecaster-0.1.8.1-3.fc14.noarch

========================

========================

pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is required by

gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686** <<<< Another killer dependency

bluedevil-1.1-2.fc14.i686********************
<<<<
Another killer
dependency

========================

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06-05-2011, 10:24 PM

On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:32 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA
> > Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under
> > /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line:
> > options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1
> >
> > and save it.
> >
> > After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back.
> >
> > Cu,
> >
> > Zoltan
> >
> > 2011/6/5 JD <jd1008@gmail.com>:
> > > On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD<jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On F14.
> > > > > Pulseaudio daemion is running.
> > > > > I can hear media playing.
> > > > > But I am unable to use microphone.
> > > > > i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
> > > > > with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder
> > > > > or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
> > > > > I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
> > > > > is picking my voice.
> > > > > gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
> > > > > I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
> > > > > Neither one is working.
> > > > > I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?
> > > > Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
> > > > two sliders and move *one* to mute.
> > > >
> > > > Does that give you any capture volume?
> > > >
> > > > /Mike
> > > Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way
> > > back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice
> > > in the right speaker.
> > > Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back.
> > > Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker.
> > > the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording.
> > > The level meter does not budge.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Tried it.
> Did not help at all.
> Skype still cannot hear the mic.
> Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices),
> I only have the option of pulseaudio for both
> mic and audio out.
>
> When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the
> input is Capture, and it does not provide any options.
> When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me
> adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue.
>
> This is really great support for audio

> I do not recall having this problem prior
> to pulseaudio.

What's your hardware?

I had the problem with F13/F14 and resolved it as suggested here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. Searching Bugzilla
for "microphone" turns up a bunch of F15-related stuff that may offer
other hints.

The advent of pulseaudio seems to have been concurrent with the advent
of new hardware technologies like the mic/webcam combo in my laptop. So
I reserve judgment on the culpability of pulseaudio.

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06-05-2011, 10:55 PM

On 06/05/11 15:24, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:32 -0700, JD wrote:
>> On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA
>>> Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under
>>> /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line:
>>> options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1
>>>
>>> and save it.
>>>
>>> After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back.
>>>
>>> Cu,
>>>
>>> Zoltan
>>>
>>> 2011/6/5 JD<jd1008@gmail.com>:
>>>> On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD<jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On F14.
>>>>>> Pulseaudio daemion is running.
>>>>>> I can hear media playing.
>>>>>> But I am unable to use microphone.
>>>>>> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
>>>>>> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder
>>>>>> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
>>>>>> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
>>>>>> is picking my voice.
>>>>>> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
>>>>>> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
>>>>>> Neither one is working.
>>>>>> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?
>>>>> Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the
>>>>> two sliders and move *one* to mute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that give you any capture volume?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Mike
>>>> Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way
>>>> back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice
>>>> in the right speaker.
>>>> Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back.
>>>> Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker.
>>>> the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording.
>>>> The level meter does not budge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>> Tried it.
>> Did not help at all.
>> Skype still cannot hear the mic.
>> Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices),
>> I only have the option of pulseaudio for both
>> mic and audio out.
>>
>> When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the
>> input is Capture, and it does not provide any options.
>> When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me
>> adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue.
>>
>> This is really great support for audio

>> I do not recall having this problem prior
>> to pulseaudio.
> What's your hardware?
>
> I had the problem with F13/F14 and resolved it as suggested here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. Searching Bugzilla
> for "microphone" turns up a bunch of F15-related stuff that may offer
> other hints.
>
> The advent of pulseaudio seems to have been concurrent with the advent
> of new hardware technologies like the mic/webcam combo in my laptop. So
> I reserve judgment on the culpability of pulseaudio.
>
My hardware is a laptptop made by uniwill.
The sound is the SIS chipset: SI7013
The modules that get loaded are
snd_intel8x0
snd_intel8x0m
snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc

/var/log/messages shows:
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50428 usecs (2426 samples)
intel8x0: clocking to 48000

I took a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197.
It looks like the solution is specifig to dell models. Not sure
what to put in my /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf.

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06-06-2011, 12:06 AM

On Sunday 05 June 2011 19:32:20 JD wrote:
> On F14.
> Pulseaudio daemion is running.
> I can hear media playing.
> But I am unable to use microphone.
> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic
> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder
> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice.
> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one
> is picking my voice.
> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that
> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input.
> Neither one is working.
> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue?

I doubt it's a pulseaudio issue.

What is the output of "arecord -l"?

Are you sure that microphone is not muted or something? The only safe way to
check that is to run alsamixer in the terminal, press F6 to choose the
soundcard, select the actual hardware soundcard in the pop-up menu instead of
the "default" (which represents the pulseaudio mixer), press F4 to see capture
devices, and play around with the settings --- unmute everything, boost mic
gain, etc. Then press ESC to exit alsamixer and try again with your favorite
app.

Open the app, begin recording, open pavucontrol, go to "recording" and "input
devices" tabs, and boost the capture volume if needed. Also check there that
everything is unmuted.

If that doesn't do it, it's an ALSA problem with the driver for your card.
Google is your friend.

I don't see any other place where a mic could fail. Also, if you are unsure of
the proper config of your recording app (they often can be misconfigured by
default, skype being the typical example), use arecord --- that should always
work if your driver is ok. Read the "man arecord" for examples on how to use
it.

> I checked to see what I can do about pulseaudio, and I see that these
> are all the pulseaudio and related packages and just a short chain
> of dependencies (I dod not do an exhastive dependency search, but
> you will see that it is impossible to remove some of the packages
> without killing your system

Regardless of dependencies, I would say that it is a Bad Idea (tm) to remove
pulseaudio. It is in the system for a reason, and it does its job well. PA is
often used as a scapegoat when people run into sound problems, typically
without it being the real culprit. Some time ago there was a witch-hunt
against PA on this very list. It took a lot of persuading/teaching to help
people realize that PA typically had nothing to do with their audio problems.

> Here is a short list of dependents on these packages:
>
> pulseaudio-gdm-hooks is required by
> gdm-2.32.1-2.fc14.i686

This is cute! :-) I really wonder why would a login manager need PA. Any
ideas?

> pulseaudio-libs is required by
> pavucontrol-0.9.10-1.fc13.i686 <<<< Another killer dependency

Now, you *are* aware that "pavucontrol" stands for "PulseAudio Volume
Control", right? How can you expect pavucontrol not to be a dependency on
pulseaudio-libs?

In general, 90% of the audio problems are either down to wrong mixer settings
(things being muted) or driver problems (ALSA being unable to drive the
hardware). For the latter, you want to check on the Internet how good is the
ALSA support for your hardware. For the former, the only two mixers I trust
are alsamixer and pavucontrol. Note that in alsamixer you want to choose your
sound card explicitly (or use the -c option) to reach the ALSA-level hardware
mixer (which is below the pulseaudio mixer). Once you have configured the
levels there, the only thing you ever need to use is pavucontrol, to change
the levels of various sources on-the-fly, at the PA level.

Other mixers (from gnome, kde, etc.) *should* provide equivalent functionality
(and typically this works well), but they are just GUI's wrapped around
alsamixer and pavucontrol, so you gain nothing by using them (other than nice
"visual desktop integration", ie. eye-candy). If you need to troubleshoot
something, ignore them and use pavucontrol and alsamixer only.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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