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Old 04-05-2011, 06:49 PM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

Hello,

I am trying to install F14 from DVD on an empty Laptop.

After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:

1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
2) Install system with basic video driver
3) Rescue installed system
4) Boot from local drive
5) Memory test

I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type

[ time ] Message
...
the system stalls after the following message:

[ 3.762682] Initalizing network drop monitor service

The problem re-occurs after power cycling.

Is this an issue of hardware incompatibility?
I have an old Fedora6 DVD, which works fine,
but I would rather run a more up-to-date system.

Any help appreciated,
Burkhard
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:58 PM
JD
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

On 04/05/2011 11:49 AM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to install F14 from DVD on an empty Laptop.
>
> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
>
> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
> 2) Install system with basic video driver
> 3) Rescue installed system
> 4) Boot from local drive
> 5) Memory test
>
> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type
>
> [ time ] Message
> ...
> the system stalls after the following message:
>
> [ 3.762682] Initalizing network drop monitor service
>
> The problem re-occurs after power cycling.
>
> Is this an issue of hardware incompatibility?
> I have an old Fedora6 DVD, which works fine,
> but I would rather run a more up-to-date system.
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Burkhard
I burned fc14 iso and installed it from DVD.
I saw no such problem.

I believe you may have a bad burn.

Did you run the media check from the banner that pops up?

If not, I suggest you do so.

If that banner never pops up, you have a bad burn.

To burn more reliably, find another machine that can burn the iso, and
that can reduce recording speed to 1 or 2.
Slower recording speeds produce less errors in recording.


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Old 04-05-2011, 06:59 PM
Antonio M
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

2011/4/5 Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to install F14 from DVD *on an empty Laptop.
>
> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
>
> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
> 2) Install system with basic video driver
> 3) Rescue installed system
> 4) Boot from local drive
> 5) Memory test
>
> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type
>
> [ time ] Message
> ...
> the system stalls after the following message:
>
> [ * 3.762682] Initalizing network drop monitor service
>
> The problem re-occurs after power cycling.
>
> Is this an issue of hardware incompatibility?
> I have an old Fedora6 DVD, which works fine,
> but I would rather run a more up-to-date system.
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Burkhard
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need additional info about hardware.
also googling can help :-)

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Old 04-05-2011, 08:50 PM
Patrick O'Callaghan
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:49 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
>
> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
> 2) Install system with basic video driver
> 3) Rescue installed system
> 4) Boot from local drive
> 5) Memory test
>
> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type

Did you test the DVD before installation? The system explicitly offers
to do this. Always do it once for a newly-burned DVD.

poc

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Old 04-05-2011, 10:29 PM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:49 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
>> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
>>
>> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
>> 2) Install system with basic video driver
>> 3) Rescue installed system
>> 4) Boot from local drive
>> 5) Memory test
>>
>> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type
>
> Did you test the DVD before installation? The system explicitly offers
> to do this. Always do it once for a newly-burned DVD.
> poc

The disk worked fine on another (older desktop) system.
I will post the specifics of the computer where the problem occurred.
- Burkhard
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:48 PM
Patrick O'Callaghan
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 19:29 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:49 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> >> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
> >>
> >> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
> >> 2) Install system with basic video driver
> >> 3) Rescue installed system
> >> 4) Boot from local drive
> >> 5) Memory test
> >>
> >> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type
> >
> > Did you test the DVD before installation? The system explicitly offers
> > to do this. Always do it once for a newly-burned DVD.
> > poc
>
> The disk worked fine on another (older desktop) system.
> I will post the specifics of the computer where the problem occurred.
> - Burkhard

So that would be a "no". The fact that it worked on a different system
is irrelevant unless the other system is identical, because the exact
set of RPMs to be installed can easily vary from one system to another
(differnet kernel architecture, different video card, etc.). Murphy's
Law dictates that your DVD could have a bad spot just where one system
reads it and the other doesn't.

Run the disk check before looking any further.

poc

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Old 04-06-2011, 10:50 AM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 19:29 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>> <pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:49 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
>> >> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
>> >> 2) Install system with basic video driver
>> >> 3) Rescue installed system
>> >> 4) Boot from local drive
>> >> 5) Memory test
>> >>
>> >> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type
>> >
>> > Did you test the DVD before installation? The system explicitly offers
>> > to do this. Always do it once for a newly-burned DVD.
>> > poc
>>
>> The disk worked fine on another (older desktop) system.
>> I will post the specifics of the computer where the problem occurred.
>> - Burkhard
>
> So that would be a "no". The fact that it worked on a different system
> is irrelevant unless the other system is identical, because the exact
> set of RPMs to be installed can easily vary from one system to another
> (differnet kernel architecture, different video card, etc.). Murphy's
> Law dictates that your DVD could have a bad spot just where one system
> reads it and the other doesn't.
>
> Run the disk check before looking any further.
>
> poc

Where/how do I run the test? Option (5) in the menu?
- Burkhard
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On 04/05/2011 08:23 PM, James Laska wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 10:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Hey, folks. So, just wanted to kick off a discussion regarding this bug:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688305
>>
>> The default update notification period has been changed for GNOME in F15
>> from 1 day to 1 week (security updates still get notifications
>> immediately). This is a change that's come from upstream, the GNOME
>> design team, who consider it a UI design issue. QA and FPL think this is
>> at least partly a distro policy issue as well as / more than a UI design
>> issue, and think we should consider whether we actually want to make
>> this change for Fedora, and if so whether we should have a different
>> update period for the pre-release cycle. QA certainly feels that 1 day
>> is more appropriate than 1 week during pre-release time.
>>
>> We chatted a bit about this during the blocker review meeting today, but
>> all agreed this would be a more appropriate venue for discussion, so I
>> wanted to kick off a thread. Thoughts?
> Have there been any decisions on this topic

I agree with upstream on this a week notice with 1 day notice of
security updates for GA.

With regards to us ( QA ) I dont see the reason for why we should differ
from this rule since.

A)
Reporters should use yum from cli to update during the development
cycle of the release regardless of *DE and application settings
preferably run it manually on daily bases.

B)
Reporters are already affected by mirror latency with regards to
updates.

If we are going to make exception to this or any other update rule an
*De/application might have during our development cycle I think we
should make sure that all reporters are using the same bits at the same
time as in skip mirrors during development cycle as well but whether we
have enough bandwith to support that that is something that
infrastructure needs answer.

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Old 04-06-2011, 12:11 PM
Patrick O'Callaghan
 
Default Installing F14 from DVD hangs

On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 07:50 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 19:29 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> >> <pocallaghan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:49 -0300, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> >> >> After inserting the DVD, I get the menu:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Install a new system or upgrade an existing system
> >> >> 2) Install system with basic video driver
> >> >> 3) Rescue installed system
> >> >> 4) Boot from local drive
> >> >> 5) Memory test
> >> >>
> >> >> I select option 1, and after a bit of fast output of the type
> >> >
> >> > Did you test the DVD before installation? The system explicitly offers
> >> > to do this. Always do it once for a newly-burned DVD.
> >> > poc
> >>
> >> The disk worked fine on another (older desktop) system.
> >> I will post the specifics of the computer where the problem occurred.
> >> - Burkhard
> >
> > So that would be a "no". The fact that it worked on a different system
> > is irrelevant unless the other system is identical, because the exact
> > set of RPMs to be installed can easily vary from one system to another
> > (differnet kernel architecture, different video card, etc.). Murphy's
> > Law dictates that your DVD could have a bad spot just where one system
> > reads it and the other doesn't.
> >
> > Run the disk check before looking any further.
> >
> > poc
>
> Where/how do I run the test? Option (5) in the menu?
> - Burkhard

>From the Installation Manual
(http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Installation_Guide/ch-Boot-x86.html):

ISO images have an SHA256 checksum embedded in them. To test the checksum integrity of an ISO image, at the installation boot prompt, type:

linux mediacheck

You should also get a prompt to do this when booting from the install
DVD.

poc

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