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Old 02-18-2011, 04:20 PM
Dario Lesca
 
Default Yum update remove some driver or software.

On my F14, today if I do a "yum update" I see that:

> Dependencies Resolved
>
> ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
> Package Arch Version Repository Size
> ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
> Installing:
> kernel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 22 M
> kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 6.6 M
> Updating:
> PackageKit x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 548 k
> PackageKit-glib x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 116 k
> [........]
> tigervnc-license noarch 1.0.90-0.24.20100813svn4123.fc14 updates 18 k
> util-linux-ng x86_64 2.18-4.8.fc14 updates 1.5 M
> webkitgtk x86_64 1.3.10-1.fc14 updates 6.2 M
> Removing:
> kernel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 103 M
> kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 23 M
> Removing for dependencies:
> kmod-open-vm-tools-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64 x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14.2 @rpmfusion-free 282 k
> open-vm-tools x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14 @rpmfusion-free 2.4 M

No, No, No. This is not correct.

I don't want update(install) a new kernel, if this remove open-vm-tools
(or some other driver in other case) for resolve dependencies.

If I have install open-vm-tools (or other) I do not want witch someone
or something uninstall it.

Rather yum did not install the kernel and notify me that there is a new
kernel, but can not install it.

Yes, ok, I can use exclude=kernel* line command or into yum.conf, but
this is not the same things: the default IMHO should be: do not remove
other package when I update some software.

Or did I miss or forget something?

Thanks

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Old 02-18-2011, 04:31 PM
JD
 
Default Yum update remove some driver or software.

In that case, do not use the command line yum.
Use the GUI YumX which will let you
uncheck things you do not want installed.

However, I do not know if it will inform you
of impending deletion of something due to
dependency resolution.

On 02/18/2011 09:20 AM, Dario Lesca wrote:
> On my F14, today if I do a "yum update" I see that:
>
>> Dependencies Resolved
>>
>> ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
>> Package Arch Version Repository Size
>> ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
>> Installing:
>> kernel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 22 M
>> kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 6.6 M
>> Updating:
>> PackageKit x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 548 k
>> PackageKit-glib x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 116 k
>> [........]
>> tigervnc-license noarch 1.0.90-0.24.20100813svn4123.fc14 updates 18 k
>> util-linux-ng x86_64 2.18-4.8.fc14 updates 1.5 M
>> webkitgtk x86_64 1.3.10-1.fc14 updates 6.2 M
>> Removing:
>> kernel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 103 M
>> kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 23 M
>> Removing for dependencies:
>> kmod-open-vm-tools-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64 x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14.2 @rpmfusion-free 282 k
>> open-vm-tools x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14 @rpmfusion-free 2.4 M
> No, No, No. This is not correct.
>
> I don't want update(install) a new kernel, if this remove open-vm-tools
> (or some other driver in other case) for resolve dependencies.
>
> If I have install open-vm-tools (or other) I do not want witch someone
> or something uninstall it.
>
> Rather yum did not install the kernel and notify me that there is a new
> kernel, but can not install it.
>
> Yes, ok, I can use exclude=kernel* line command or into yum.conf, but
> this is not the same things: the default IMHO should be: do not remove
> other package when I update some software.
>
> Or did I miss or forget something?
>
> Thanks
>

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Old 02-18-2011, 04:42 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default Yum update remove some driver or software.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:20:33 +0100, Dario wrote:

> On my F14, today if I do a "yum update" I see that:
>
> > Dependencies Resolved
> >
> > ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
> > Package Arch Version Repository Size
> > ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
> > Installing:
> > kernel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 22 M
> > kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 6.6 M
> > Updating:
> > PackageKit x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 548 k
> > PackageKit-glib x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 116 k
> > [........]
> > tigervnc-license noarch 1.0.90-0.24.20100813svn4123.fc14 updates 18 k
> > util-linux-ng x86_64 2.18-4.8.fc14 updates 1.5 M
> > webkitgtk x86_64 1.3.10-1.fc14 updates 6.2 M
> > Removing:
> > kernel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 103 M
> > kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 23 M
> > Removing for dependencies:
> > kmod-open-vm-tools-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64 x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14.2 @rpmfusion-free 282 k
> > open-vm-tools x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14 @rpmfusion-free 2.4 M
>
> No, No, No. This is not correct.
>
> I don't want update(install) a new kernel, if this remove open-vm-tools
> (or some other driver in other case) for resolve dependencies.
>
> If I have install open-vm-tools (or other) I do not want witch someone
> or something uninstall it.
>
> Rather yum did not install the kernel and notify me that there is a new
> kernel, but can not install it.
>
> Yes, ok, I can use exclude=kernel* line command or into yum.conf, but
> this is not the same things: the default IMHO should be: do not remove
> other package when I update some software.
>
> Or did I miss or forget something?

There's a thinko here somewhere. You need to protect the kernel package
or the dependencies of the kmod* packages, if you cannot ensure that
a kernel update [and all its updated deps] is fully compatible feature-wise.

Have you experimented with yum.conf's protected_packages yet?

Alternatively, increase the installonly_limit value to allow for many
more kernel updates to be installed in parallel without removing older
ones. As a last resort, create an own local package that depends on
stuff you don't want to have removed.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:58 PM
Avram Lubkin
 
Default Yum update remove some driver or software.

You're probably not even using that kernel or that version of open-vm-tools.

Look at you /etc/yum.conf file. installonly_limit is probably set to 3, which would mean that it only keeps 3 kernels around. Run 'rpm -qa | grep kernel-2.6' to confirm. Then run 'uname -r' to see which kernel your actually using. It's uninstalling the oldest kernel and packages that are specific to that kernel. You should see a new version of the kmod-open-vm-tools package in the install list. If not, maybe wait a day or so, but it looks like the new package is already out. If the kmod package isn't there, it will want to uninstall open-vm-tools because it's required dependencies aren't available. So good rule of thumb is to wait a couple days before updating to new fedora Kernel releases, but the default is to save three kernels anyway, so if you have a problem you just boot into the old kernel.

Anyway, the only issue I see here is that it's removing open-vm-tools, so make sure you have a good value for installonly_limit and that you're getting metadata from rpmfusion. Maybe do a yum clean all and then a yum list --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rpmfusion-free*


Avram

----- Original Message -----
From: "JD" <jd1008@gmail.com>
To: "Community support for Fedora users" <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:31:57 PM
Subject: Re: Yum update remove some driver or software.

In that case, do not use the command line yum.
Use the GUI YumX which will let you
uncheck things you do not want installed.

However, I do not know if it will inform you
of impending deletion of something due to
dependency resolution.

On 02/18/2011 09:20 AM, Dario Lesca wrote:
> On my F14, today if I do a "yum update" I see that:
>
>> Dependencies Resolved
>>
>> ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
>> Package Arch Version Repository Size
>> ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ==============
>> Installing:
>> kernel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 22 M
>> kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.11-83.fc14 updates 6.6 M
>> Updating:
>> PackageKit x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 548 k
>> PackageKit-glib x86_64 0.6.12-2.fc14 updates 116 k
>> [........]
>> tigervnc-license noarch 1.0.90-0.24.20100813svn4123.fc14 updates 18 k
>> util-linux-ng x86_64 2.18-4.8.fc14 updates 1.5 M
>> webkitgtk x86_64 1.3.10-1.fc14 updates 6.2 M
>> Removing:
>> kernel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 103 M
>> kernel-devel x86_64 2.6.35.6-48.fc14 @local-updates 23 M
>> Removing for dependencies:
>> kmod-open-vm-tools-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64 x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14.2 @rpmfusion-free 282 k
>> open-vm-tools x86_64 0.0.0.301124-1.fc14 @rpmfusion-free 2.4 M
> No, No, No. This is not correct.
>
> I don't want update(install) a new kernel, if this remove open-vm-tools
> (or some other driver in other case) for resolve dependencies.
>
> If I have install open-vm-tools (or other) I do not want witch someone
> or something uninstall it.
>
> Rather yum did not install the kernel and notify me that there is a new
> kernel, but can not install it.
>
> Yes, ok, I can use exclude=kernel* line command or into yum.conf, but
> this is not the same things: the default IMHO should be: do not remove
> other package when I update some software.
>
> Or did I miss or forget something?
>
> Thanks
>

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