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Old 02-02-2011, 05:25 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default Some thoughts on Audacious in Fedora

As the Fedora 14 update of Audacious from 2.4.0 to 2.4.3 has not been
smooth at all and is still annoying users, who need 3rd party plugin
packages which still haven't been pushed, the following consequences are
arising IMO:


Fedora 13

I'm offering Audacious 2.2 (audacious-2.2-16 and audacious-plugins-2.2-38)
in Fedora 13 to anyone interested in taking over. In other words, consider
Audacious in Fedora 13 semi-orphaned.

In my point of view, it works well enough that it doesn't need an upgrade
to 2.4.x. Though, a lot has changed in the 2.4 series, and certainly there
are additional bug-fixes included. If to be upgraded in Fedora 13, this
would need the cooperation (and extra-work) of 3rd party plugin package
providers. Special precautions are to be taken as not to repeat the
problems we've run into with this recent update in Fedora 14. Whether
Fedora 13 is "new enough" with regard to all dependencies remains to be
examined by whomever. I believe that users with interest in later software
ought to upgrade to Fedora 14.


Fedora 14

Even before a strong RPM dependency in 3rd party plugin packages is
available to prevent breaking of decoder plugins, I have created a custom
repository for Audacious 2.5-alpha1 - which btw breaks the Plugin API
again and requires actual code changes and not just rebuilds:

http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/mschwendt/audacious-2.5/fedora-audacious-2.5.repo

This is not only for users to take a sneak peek at Audacious 2.5 development,
but also to emphasize that the dependency on 3rd party plugin packages can
be problematic.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:25 PM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default Some thoughts on Audacious in Fedora

As the Fedora 14 update of Audacious from 2.4.0 to 2.4.3 has not been
smooth at all and is still annoying users, who need 3rd party plugin
packages which still haven't been pushed, the following consequences are
arising IMO:


Fedora 13

I'm offering Audacious 2.2 (audacious-2.2-16 and audacious-plugins-2.2-38)
in Fedora 13 to anyone interested in taking over. In other words, consider
Audacious in Fedora 13 semi-orphaned.

In my point of view, it works well enough that it doesn't need an upgrade
to 2.4.x. Though, a lot has changed in the 2.4 series, and certainly there
are additional bug-fixes included. If to be upgraded in Fedora 13, this
would need the cooperation (and extra-work) of 3rd party plugin package
providers. Special precautions are to be taken as not to repeat the
problems we've run into with this recent update in Fedora 14. Whether
Fedora 13 is "new enough" with regard to all dependencies remains to be
examined by whomever. I believe that users with interest in later software
ought to upgrade to Fedora 14.


Fedora 14

Even before a strong RPM dependency in 3rd party plugin packages is
available to prevent breaking of decoder plugins, I have created a custom
repository for Audacious 2.5-alpha1 - which btw breaks the Plugin API
again and requires actual code changes and not just rebuilds:

http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/mschwendt/audacious-2.5/fedora-audacious-2.5.repo

This is not only for users to take a sneak peek at Audacious 2.5 development,
but also to emphasize that the dependency on 3rd party plugin packages can
be problematic.
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:32 PM
Digimer
 
Default Some thoughts on Audacious in Fedora

On 02/02/2011 01:25 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> As the Fedora 14 update of Audacious from 2.4.0 to 2.4.3 has not been
> smooth at all and is still annoying users, who need 3rd party plugin
> packages which still haven't been pushed, the following consequences are
> arising IMO:
>
>
> Fedora 13
>
> I'm offering Audacious 2.2 (audacious-2.2-16 and audacious-plugins-2.2-38)
> in Fedora 13 to anyone interested in taking over. In other words, consider
> Audacious in Fedora 13 semi-orphaned.
>
> In my point of view, it works well enough that it doesn't need an upgrade
> to 2.4.x. Though, a lot has changed in the 2.4 series, and certainly there
> are additional bug-fixes included. If to be upgraded in Fedora 13, this
> would need the cooperation (and extra-work) of 3rd party plugin package
> providers. Special precautions are to be taken as not to repeat the
> problems we've run into with this recent update in Fedora 14. Whether
> Fedora 13 is "new enough" with regard to all dependencies remains to be
> examined by whomever. I believe that users with interest in later software
> ought to upgrade to Fedora 14.
>
>
> Fedora 14
>
> Even before a strong RPM dependency in 3rd party plugin packages is
> available to prevent breaking of decoder plugins, I have created a custom
> repository for Audacious 2.5-alpha1 - which btw breaks the Plugin API
> again and requires actual code changes and not just rebuilds:
>
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/mschwendt/audacious-2.5/fedora-audacious-2.5.repo
>
> This is not only for users to take a sneak peek at Audacious 2.5 development,
> but also to emphasize that the dependency on 3rd party plugin packages can
> be problematic.

Audacious refuses to load or play MP3s for me since a recent update
(Fedora 14 x86_64). I'm guessing this is the kind of problem you are
talking about? If so, I'll give this a shot and report my success or
lack thereof.

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Old 02-02-2011, 06:12 PM
Digimer
 
Default Some thoughts on Audacious in Fedora

On 02/02/2011 01:25 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> As the Fedora 14 update of Audacious from 2.4.0 to 2.4.3 has not been
> smooth at all and is still annoying users, who need 3rd party plugin
> packages which still haven't been pushed, the following consequences are
> arising IMO:
>
>
> Fedora 13
>
> I'm offering Audacious 2.2 (audacious-2.2-16 and audacious-plugins-2.2-38)
> in Fedora 13 to anyone interested in taking over. In other words, consider
> Audacious in Fedora 13 semi-orphaned.
>
> In my point of view, it works well enough that it doesn't need an upgrade
> to 2.4.x. Though, a lot has changed in the 2.4 series, and certainly there
> are additional bug-fixes included. If to be upgraded in Fedora 13, this
> would need the cooperation (and extra-work) of 3rd party plugin package
> providers. Special precautions are to be taken as not to repeat the
> problems we've run into with this recent update in Fedora 14. Whether
> Fedora 13 is "new enough" with regard to all dependencies remains to be
> examined by whomever. I believe that users with interest in later software
> ought to upgrade to Fedora 14.
>
>
> Fedora 14
>
> Even before a strong RPM dependency in 3rd party plugin packages is
> available to prevent breaking of decoder plugins, I have created a custom
> repository for Audacious 2.5-alpha1 - which btw breaks the Plugin API
> again and requires actual code changes and not just rebuilds:
>
> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/mschwendt/audacious-2.5/fedora-audacious-2.5.repo
>
> This is not only for users to take a sneak peek at Audacious 2.5 development,
> but also to emphasize that the dependency on 3rd party plugin packages can
> be problematic.

Just a note:

sudo yum list |grep audacious
[sudo] password for digimer:
audacious.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-devel.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-libs.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
libmowgli.x86_64 0.9.50-0.1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
libmowgli-devel.x86_64 0.9.50-0.1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-debuginfo.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-devel.i686 2.4.3-1.fc14
updates
audacious-libs.i686 2.4.3-1.fc14
updates
audacious-plugin-fc.x86_64 0.6-3.fc14.0.1
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugin-fc-debuginfo.x86_64 0.6-3.fc14.0.1
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugin-xmp.x86_64 3.3.0-2.fc14.1
updates
audacious-plugins-amidi.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-debuginfo.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-freeworld.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-jack.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-sid.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-uade.x86_64 2.09-5.fc11
rpmfusion-nonfree
libmowgli-debuginfo.x86_64 0.9.50-0.1.fc14
fedora-audacious-2.5
lework:~$ sudo yum install audacious-plugin-fc.x86_64
audacious-plugin-xmp.x86_64 audacious-plugins-amidi.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3.x86_64 audacious-plugins-jack.x86_64
audacious-plugins-sid.x86_64 audacious-plugins-uade.x86_64
libmowgli-debuginfo.x86_64
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Adding en_US to language list
Setting up Install Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package audacious-plugin-fc.x86_64 0:0.6-3.fc14.0.1 set to be installed
---> Package audacious-plugin-xmp.x86_64 0:3.3.0-2.fc14.1 set to be
installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-amidi.x86_64 0:2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14 set to
be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-freeworld.x86_64 0:2.4.0-1.fc14 set to be
installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac.x86_64 0:2.4.0-1.fc14 set
to be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio.x86_64 0:2.4.0-1.fc14
set to be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms.x86_64 0:2.4.0-1.fc14 set
to be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3.x86_64 0:2.4.0-1.fc14 set
to be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-jack.x86_64 0:2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14 set to
be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-sid.x86_64 0:2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14 set to
be installed
---> Package audacious-plugins-uade.x86_64 0:2.09-5.fc11 set to be installed
--> Processing Dependency: uade = 2.09-5.fc11 for package:
audacious-plugins-uade-2.09-5.fc11.x86_64
---> Package libmowgli-debuginfo.x86_64 0:0.9.50-0.1.fc14 set to be
installed
--> Running transaction check
---> Package uade.x86_64 0:2.09-5.fc11 set to be installed
--> Processing Dependency: libao.so.2()(64bit) for package:
uade-2.09-5.fc11.x86_64
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: uade-2.09-5.fc11.x86_64 (rpmfusion-nonfree)
Requires: libao.so.2()(64bit)
You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest


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Old 02-02-2011, 06:30 PM
Digimer
 
Default Some thoughts on Audacious in Fedora

On 02/02/2011 01:32 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/mschwendt/audacious-2.5/fedora-audacious-2.5.repo
>>
>> This is not only for users to take a sneak peek at Audacious 2.5 development,
>> but also to emphasize that the dependency on 3rd party plugin packages can
>> be problematic.
>
> Audacious refuses to load or play MP3s for me since a recent update
> (Fedora 14 x86_64). I'm guessing this is the kind of problem you are
> talking about? If so, I'll give this a shot and report my success or
> lack thereof.

I installed the audacious-related RPMs from your repo, but MP3s still
fail to play with the decoder error.

lework:~$ sudo yum list installed | grep audacious
[sudo] password for digimer:
audacious.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-devel.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-libs.x86_64 2.5-0.1.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugin-fc.x86_64 0.6-3.fc14.0.1
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugin-xmp.x86_64 3.3.0-2.fc14.1
@updates
audacious-plugins.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-amidi.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-freeworld.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
@rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
@rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio.x86_64
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
@rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-freeworld-mp3.x86_64 2.4.0-1.fc14
@rpmfusion-free
audacious-plugins-jack.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
audacious-plugins-sid.x86_64 2.5-0.2.alpha1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
libmowgli.x86_64 0.9.50-0.1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5
libmowgli-devel.x86_64 0.9.50-0.1.fc14
@fedora-audacious-2.5

(Trying to play an MP3):

No decoder found for
file:///home/digimer/Music/The%20Decemberists/Dark%20Was%20The%20Night%20-%20Disc%201/12%20Sleepless.mp3.

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