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Old 02-01-2011, 03:30 AM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

Hello Fellow Users,

after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.

Any help to a linux learning user would be appreciated.
Burkhard
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:11 PM
Bruno Wolff III
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 00:30:26 -0400,
Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Fellow Users,
>
> after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
> whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
> interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
> allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
> on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.

Does that monitor do proper EDID? If not you'll need to use an xorg.conf
file to add mode lines for it.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:25 PM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 00:30:26 -0400,
> *Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Fellow Users,
>>
>> after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
>> whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
>> interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
>> allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
>> on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.
>
> Does that monitor do proper EDID? If not you'll need to use an xorg.conf
> file to add mode lines for it.

Appreciate the response.

I do not know how to find out if the monitor does proper EDID.
Can I query manually?

After reading up on this type of problem, there seem to be difficulties getting
xorg.conf utilized by X11. Currently, xorf.conf does not exist on my system.

Burkhard
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Old 02-02-2011, 01:10 PM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Burkhard Plache
<burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 00:30:26 -0400,
>> *Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Fellow Users,
>>>
>>> after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
>>> whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
>>> interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
>>> allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
>>> on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.
>>
>> Does that monitor do proper EDID? If not you'll need to use an xorg.conf
>> file to add mode lines for it.
>
> Appreciate the response.
>
> I do not know how to find out if the monitor does proper EDID.
> Can I query manually?
>
> After reading up on this type of problem, there seem to be difficulties getting
> xorg.conf utilized by X11. Currently, xorf.conf does not exist on my system.
> Burkhard
>

As a side remark, the installation was an update over a previous F7
installation,
where the monitor was recognized without a hitch. So, some improvement was
beneficial for some, but not me.

Some additional attempts / info:

(1) Installed OpenSUSE 11.3.
Same unknown monitor problem.

(2) Reinstalled F14 using the 'basic video driver'
Still unknown monitor, albeit at different resolution.

(3) Learned about xrandr (X Resize and Rotate Extension) command line program,
to which Preferences->Monitor GUI seems to be a front end.
Unfortunately, xrandr does not allow me to change the display size
(e.g. via xrandr -s 1280X1024).

(4) Some applicable web references
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=241705

Concluding so far: The video driver does not recognize the monitor.
Question: Can I use a different driver, or force some driver to use my
preferred size?

Would be great to have again decent resolution in front of me.

Thanks for reading & appreciate any suggestion,
Burkhard
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Old 02-02-2011, 01:26 PM
"Kevin J. Cummings"
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On 02/01/2011 05:25 PM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 00:30:26 -0400,
>> Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Fellow Users,
>>>
>>> after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
>>> whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
>>> interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
>>> allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
>>> on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.
>>
>> Does that monitor do proper EDID? If not you'll need to use an xorg.conf
>> file to add mode lines for it.
>
> Appreciate the response.
>
> I do not know how to find out if the monitor does proper EDID.
> Can I query manually?

Look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file while X11 is running....

> After reading up on this type of problem, there seem to be difficulties getting
> xorg.conf utilized by X11. Currently, xorf.conf does not exist on my system.

Then look at your session log file (mentioned above) to see what X11 is
doing for you.

> Burkhard


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Old 02-02-2011, 01:41 PM
Gregory Hosler
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

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On 02/02/2011 10:10 PM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Burkhard Plache
> <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 00:30:26 -0400,
>>> Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Fellow Users,
>>>>
>>>> after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
>>>> whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
>>>> interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
>>>> allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
>>>> on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.
>>>
>>> Does that monitor do proper EDID? If not you'll need to use an xorg.conf
>>> file to add mode lines for it.
>>
>> Appreciate the response.
>>
>> I do not know how to find out if the monitor does proper EDID.
>> Can I query manually?
>>
>> After reading up on this type of problem, there seem to be difficulties getting
>> xorg.conf utilized by X11. Currently, xorf.conf does not exist on my system.

It is possible to generate a xorg.conf

Xorg --configure

might be -configure. done in run level 3. This generated an xorg.conf.new (from
my experience). Hand edit as appropriate (e.g. with monitor specifics, with
display specifics), and you should then be good to go.

All the best,

- -Greg


>> Burkhard
>>
>
> As a side remark, the installation was an update over a previous F7
> installation,
> where the monitor was recognized without a hitch. So, some improvement was
> beneficial for some, but not me.
>
> Some additional attempts / info:
>
> (1) Installed OpenSUSE 11.3.
> Same unknown monitor problem.
>
> (2) Reinstalled F14 using the 'basic video driver'
> Still unknown monitor, albeit at different resolution.
>
> (3) Learned about xrandr (X Resize and Rotate Extension) command line program,
> to which Preferences->Monitor GUI seems to be a front end.
> Unfortunately, xrandr does not allow me to change the display size
> (e.g. via xrandr -s 1280X1024).
>
> (4) Some applicable web references
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=241705
>
> Concluding so far: The video driver does not recognize the monitor.
> Question: Can I use a different driver, or force some driver to use my
> preferred size?
>
> Would be great to have again decent resolution in front of me.
>
> Thanks for reading & appreciate any suggestion,
> Burkhard


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Please also check the log file at "/dev/null" for additional information.
(from /var/log/Xorg.setup.log)

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Old 02-03-2011, 12:30 AM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Kevin J. Cummings
<cummings@kjchome.homeip.net> wrote:
> On 02/01/2011 05:25 PM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 00:30:26 -0400,
>>> *Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Fellow Users,
>>>>
>>>> after installing F14, the monitor resolution defaults to 960x600,
>>>> whereas my BenQ FP 757 has 1280 x 1024. There must be some
>>>> interface (or driver?) problem, since Preferences->Monitor does not
>>>> allow me to change to the desired resolution. I did not find any hints
>>>> on how to proceed in the docs.fedoraproject.org F14 installation guide.
>>>
>>> Does that monitor do proper EDID? If not you'll need to use an xorg.conf
>>> file to add mode lines for it.
>>
>> Appreciate the response.
>>
>> I do not know how to find out if the monitor does proper EDID.
>> Can I query manually?
>
> Look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file while X11 is running....
> [...]
>
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xorg.conf exists now. Contains

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection

Xorg.0.log is long. Rather than attaching the whole thing, let
me try to select what might be relevant (my comments via #BU

[...]
[ 2469.030] Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS
rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
KEYTABLE=us rhgb nomodeset quiet
[...]
[ 2469.034] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[ 2469.034] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 2469.034] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 2469.035] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 2469.036] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 2469.036] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 2469.036] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 2469.036] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using the first device section listed.
[ 2469.036] (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0"
[ 2469.036] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[...]
[ 2469.037] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 2469.037] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of
input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable
AutoAddDevices.
[...]
[ 2469.034] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[ 2469.034] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 2469.034] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[...]
#BU: here many extensions & modules are loaded, amongst others...
[ 2469.057] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[ 2469.057] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[ 2469.058] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[ 2469.059] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 2469.059] compiled for 1.8.99.904, module version = 2.3.0
[ 2469.059] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 2469.059] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
[ 2469.059] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[ 2469.059] (--) using VT number 7
#BU: ... followed by many modes (each having some 40 attributes).
[ 2469.929] Mode: 102 (800x600)
[...]
#BU: and one of the modes has my desired resolution:
[ 2469.966] Mode: 107 (1280x1024)
[...]
#BU: but later sadly ...
[ 2470.149] (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (no
mode of this name)

Does this help to clarify?
I can attach the whole thing if that's better.
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Old 02-03-2011, 03:38 AM
"Kevin J. Cummings"
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On 02/02/2011 08:30 PM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> xorg.conf exists now. Contains

Actually, I was hoping to see the output from Xorg.0.log without an
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It would show us what the *system* thinks it
was doing and whether or not it chose a sane driver for the video card.

> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Videocard0"
> Driver "vesa"
> EndSection

Ouch! VESA is the last haven of the unknown video card!
If you are looking for 3D support for videos, vesa is *NOT* the driver
you want to be using!

Where is the output from the "lspci | grep VGA" command?

On my laptop, its:

> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600]

As you can see, it tell me exactly what my video card is. If you add 1
or 2 -v options to the lspci command, you can see more (and more) detail
about it.

> Xorg.0.log is long. Rather than attaching the whole thing, let
> me try to select what might be relevant (my comments via #BU
>
> [...]
> [ 2469.030] Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
> rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS
> rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYTABLE=us rhgb nomodeset quiet
> [...]
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [ 2469.035] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
> [ 2469.036] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
> [ 2469.036] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
> [ 2469.036] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
> [ 2469.036] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
> Using the first device section listed.
> [ 2469.036] (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0"
> [ 2469.036] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
> Using a default monitor configuration.
> [...]
> [ 2469.037] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> [ 2469.037] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of
> input devices.
> If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable
> AutoAddDevices.
> [...]
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [...]
> #BU: here many extensions & modules are loaded, amongst others...
> [ 2469.057] (II) Loading extension DRI2
> [ 2469.057] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
> [ 2469.058] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
> [ 2469.059] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> [ 2469.059] compiled for 1.8.99.904, module version = 2.3.0
> [ 2469.059] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> [ 2469.059] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
> [ 2469.059] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
> [ 2469.059] (--) using VT number 7
> #BU: ... followed by many modes (each having some 40 attributes).
> [ 2469.929] Mode: 102 (800x600)
> [...]
> #BU: and one of the modes has my desired resolution:
> [ 2469.966] Mode: 107 (1280x1024)
> [...]
> #BU: but later sadly ...
> [ 2470.149] (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (no
> mode of this name)
>
> Does this help to clarify?

No, its using VESA because that's the driver specified in your xorg.conf
file. We need to determine *what* your video card really is, and what X
will do with it on its own....

Please, send output of "lspci | grep VGA" and where is the Xorg.0.log
output that tells us what video card you are using? (I think you
snipped it.) Are you trying to hide it????

I'm looking for a line in your Xorg.0.log like the following from my laptop:

> [ 56.781] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:71c5:1043:10b2 rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xfeff0000/65536, I/O @ 0x0000b000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072

Which should describe your video card in hairy detail.... It should be
just after the *'d comment box that Fedora added to tell you about the
new udev-based device detection.

> I can attach the whole thing if that's better.

I would prefer to see the output with *no* /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in
place. I'd like to see what video card it thinks it is using, and what
driver it loaded on its own, and what it has to say about the card's
video modes, and the monitor's EDID capabilities, and what extensions it
thought to load....

Inquiring minds want to know!

> Burkhard

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Old 02-03-2011, 04:12 AM
"Kevin J. Cummings"
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

My apologies Burkhard, I confused your email with another I am also
helping out with. Please ignore the response I just posted and let me
try again. Thank-you.

On 02/02/2011 08:30 PM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
> Xorg.0.log is long. Rather than attaching the whole thing, let
> me try to select what might be relevant (my comments via #BU
>
> [...]
> [ 2469.030] Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
> rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_root rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS
> rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYTABLE=us rhgb nomodeset quiet
> [...]
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [ 2469.035] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
> [ 2469.036] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
> [ 2469.036] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
> [ 2469.036] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
> [ 2469.036] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
> Using the first device section listed.
> [ 2469.036] (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0"
> [ 2469.036] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
> Using a default monitor configuration.
> [...]
> [ 2469.037] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> [ 2469.037] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of
> input devices.
> If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable
> AutoAddDevices.
> [...]
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [ 2469.034] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> [...]
> #BU: here many extensions & modules are loaded, amongst others...
> [ 2469.057] (II) Loading extension DRI2
> [ 2469.057] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
> [ 2469.058] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
> [ 2469.059] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> [ 2469.059] compiled for 1.8.99.904, module version = 2.3.0
> [ 2469.059] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> [ 2469.059] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 8.0
> [ 2469.059] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
> [ 2469.059] (--) using VT number 7
> #BU: ... followed by many modes (each having some 40 attributes).
> [ 2469.929] Mode: 102 (800x600)
> [...]
> #BU: and one of the modes has my desired resolution:
> [ 2469.966] Mode: 107 (1280x1024)
> [...]
> #BU: but later sadly ...
> [ 2470.149] (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (no
> mode of this name)

Well, to begin with you are using the VESA driver, which is rarely
useful. What is your video card actually? A better driver may give you
a better selection of video modes. Have you tried deleting your
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file (or at least temporarily renaming it) and
restart Xorg without it. Looking at the whole log file from that
attempt will probably be very enlightening.

In the meantime, look further into your current Xorg.0.log file. The
EDID stuff is *very* noticeable down near the end of the initialization
and setup. (Search for EDID). You should see both a HEX dump of it,
and Xorg's interpretation of it, if it is working right. I find it hard
to believe that a Flat Panel Display doesn't return *any* EDID
information upon a query. But, I could be wrong, and frequently am.

What is your video card? "lspci | grep VGA" should give you some
indication of what hardware is installed. Based on that response, we
can determine if VESA is the right video driver for you (not likely
based on what you've said so far). It may be the case that you need to
install a better xorg_x11_drv_xxxxxx driver for your video card.
(Gawd, if it would only be that simple!)

> Does this help to clarify?
> I can attach the whole thing if that's better.

The whole thing is always better, as you won't delete parts that people
may want to look at. It is also useful to see what EErrors Xorg may
have found during initialization.

> Burkhard

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Old 02-04-2011, 01:09 AM
Burkhard Plache
 
Default F14 New Installation: Unknown Monitor

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Kevin J. Cummings
<cummings@kjchome.homeip.net> wrote:
> My apologies Burkhard, *I confused your email with another I am also
> helping out with. *Please ignore the response I just posted and let me
> try again. *Thank-you.
>
>> [...]
>
> Well, to begin with you are using the VESA driver, which is rarely
> useful. *What is your video card actually? *A better driver may give you
> a better selection of video modes. *Have you tried deleting your
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (or at least temporarily renaming it) and
> restart Xorg without it. *Looking at the whole log file from that
> attempt will probably be very enlightening.
>
> In the meantime, look further into your current Xorg.0.log file. *The
> EDID stuff is *very* noticeable down near the end of the initialization
> and setup. *(Search for EDID). *You should see both a HEX dump of it,
> and Xorg's interpretation of it, if it is working right. *I find it hard
> to believe that a Flat Panel Display doesn't return *any* EDID
> information upon a query. *But, I could be wrong, and frequently am.
>
> What is your video card? *"lspci | grep VGA" should give you some
> indication of what hardware is installed. *Based on that response, we
> can determine if VESA is the right video driver for you (not likely
> based on what you've said so far). *It may be the case that you need to
> install a better xorg_x11_drv_xxxxxx driver for your video card.
> (Gawd, if it would only be that simple!)
>
>> Does this help to clarify?
>> I can attach the whole thing if that's better.
>
> The whole thing is always better, as you won't delete parts that people
> may want to look at. *It is also useful to see what EErrors Xorg may
> have found during initialization.
>
>> Burkhard
>
> --
> Kevin J. Cummings
> kjchome@verizon.net
> cummings@kjchome.homeip.net
> cummings@kjc386.framingham.ma.us
> Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org)
> --

Ok, here again:

lspci | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter

And attached the Xorg.0.log file after I renamed xorg.conf and rebooted.

Hope this allows you to see the origin of the problem,
and many thanks for taking time & effort.
Burkhard
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