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Old 01-20-2008, 09:05 PM
kwhiskerz
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

This problem has been plaguing my system since fedora 8 came out and despite
loading all of the updates as they appear, it has not stopped.

When I log out of a KDE session (not gnome, however), the logout process
begins and the screen turns black (normal, before gdm runs), but then it just
hangs there, with the mouse pointer still on the screen. I am not able to
return to the hanging X session and the only way to get out of the hang is to
type ctrl-alt-backspace. This does not get me to gdm, however, but to the
command line login prompt. I have no choice but to log in and run shutdown -h
now. This happens about 90% of the time.

I thought the problem might be kpowersomethingorother, so I disabled that. I
also tried using kdm instead of gdm, but kdm will not run, even though I
create the sysconfig/desktop file with the proper options.

I don´t mind using gdm, but the logout problem is a nuisance. The problem
persists, no matter whether I choose stop the computer, log out or reboot the
computer. It is always the black screen with the pointer still there, about
90% of the time.

Any suggestions?

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Old 01-21-2008, 09:49 AM
Markku Kolkka
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

kwhiskerz kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika maanantai, 21.
tammikuuta 2008):
> When I log out of a KDE session (not gnome, however), the
> logout process begins and the screen turns black (normal,
> before gdm runs), but then it just hangs there, with the mouse
> pointer still on the screen. I am not able to return to the
> hanging X session and the only way to get out of the hang is
> to type ctrl-alt-backspace. This does not get me to gdm,
> however, but to the command line login prompt. I have no
> choice but to log in and run shutdown -h now.

Instead of ctrl-alt-backspace, switch to a different virtual
console with ctrl-alt-F1, login as root and run "gdm-restart".

When the logout hangs, "ps" shows some kde process hanging around
as a zombie. This should be reported in Bugzilla.

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Old 01-21-2008, 07:20 PM
kwhiskerz
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

I wish I could just switch to another virtual console, but it is impossible!

There is no keyboard response, except ctrl-alt-backspace. Nothing else
produces any result. The black screen with the mouse pointer, which is fully
movable, just hangs. There is no going to any virtual console until I have
killed off X, and then I am taken to the command line login prompt. No gdm.

I will try ps next time it happens, but in order to execute ps, I will have to
kill the X session. Would not any "kde process hanging around as a zombie"
also be gone then?

I will see what happens. This last logout just worked, to my astonishment. I
am about to log out again, so I will see what happens.

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Old 01-21-2008, 07:41 PM
kwhiskerz
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

I logged out and the same problem happened again. Lo and behold, after all of these months, this time I was able to get to another virtual console without killing X.





I logged in as root and typed ps aux. The only listing with a 'Z' (zed) beside it was one that said: [sta] <defunct>. I checked and there does not appear to be a program called 'sta' on my system.





I typed kill -9 pid-of-sta, but nothing changed; it was still in the ps aux listing. At this point, I might have killed virtual terminal 7, but I am not certain. Upon retyping ps aux, I saw that there was still a defunct sta, but now also a defunct X. I tried killing the defunct X, but, as before, kill -9 had no effect on the defunct programs.





Then I issued gdm-restart, logged out, and gdm started up normally and logged me in, as I have it configured to do. I logged out again and the same problem recurred.





I have no clue which program could be the zombie that is causing this. How do I determine this?




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Old 01-21-2008, 09:11 PM
Markku Kolkka
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

kwhiskerz kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika maanantai, 21.
tammikuuta 2008):
> I logged in as root and typed ps aux. The only listing with a
> 'Z' (zed) beside it was one that said: [sta] <defunct>. I
> checked and there does not appear to be a program called 'sta'
> on my system.

I managed to hang up my KDE logout to check the cause. The
process is "startkde", the u option to ps causes the program
name to be truncated:
#ps ax | grep Z
5723 ? Zs 0:00 [startkde] <defunct>
Pstree shows that startkde is a child of gdm-binary:

init-+-/usr/bin/sealer
|-acpid
|-apcupsd---{apcupsd}
|-atd
|-auditd-+-audispd---{audispd}
| `-{auditd}
|-console-kit-dae---61*[{console-kit-dae}]
|-crond
|-cupsd
|-2*[dbus-daemon---{dbus-daemon}]
|-dbus-launch
|-denyhosts.py
|-gdm-binary---gdm-binary-+-X
| `-startkde
...

I think that explains why killing X doesn't help, gdm-binary is
wedged and not wait()ing for its dead child processes.

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Old 01-21-2008, 10:57 PM
kwhiskerz
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

Can we resuscitate the child so that it can live out it's life naturally?

So, what do we do now, to get it working properly?

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Old 05-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Jacques Beigbeder
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

Hello,

It was last January, the problem is that on logout,
KDE leaves a process 'startkde' zombie. So GDM doesn't restart.
Of course root can log and solve. But what's in a controlled
environment, where users don't have root access.

>> For those playing at home, and want to watch progress, offer more feedback,
>> etc...
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429966

I tried to read, but there are many many comments, and I don't
see any real solution.

So my question: is there a clear solution?

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Old 05-07-2008, 02:11 PM
Rex Dieter
 
Default KDE logout/shutdown problem

Jacques Beigbeder wrote:

> It was last January, the problem is that on logout,
> KDE leaves a process 'startkde' zombie. So GDM doesn't restart.
> Of course root can log and solve. But what's in a controlled
> environment, where users don't have root access.
>
>>> For those playing at home, and want to watch progress, offer more
>>> feedback, etc...
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429966
>
> I tried to read, but there are many many comments, and I don't
> see any real solution.
>
> So my question: is there a clear solution?

Best/only suggestion for kde users atm, is to not use gdm.

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