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At this meeting, StefanPotyra agreed to chair, CodySomerville agreed to
write the minutes, and EmmetHikory agreed to write a proposal to -MOTU.
Vibrant discussion continued regarding the MOTU Leadership Teams Membership
Policy. In contrast to previous discussions, a growing preference for,
rationalized by a desire and proposed higher need for working teams rather
than bureaucratic accuracy, a system that avoids voting was evident. Others,
however, felt that such a system would be ill-defined, inherently more
complex, and questionable as voting is used to measure the legitimacy of the
leadership teams.

The proposal wrote by EmmetHikory can be found at
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004278.html


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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello Folks,<br><br>&nbsp;You can find the meeting minutes for the MOTU Meeting held this previous July 25th, 2008 at <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/2008-07-25">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/2008-07-25</a><br>
<br>&nbsp;The current minutes, as written by myself, are as follows:<br><blockquote><b>MOTU Meeting Minutes for 2008-07-25</b><br><br>== <i>MOTU Leadership Teams - Membership Policy Discussion Cnt'd</i>. ==<br><br>From the last meeting (<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/2008-07-11">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/2008-07-11</a>), CodySomerville and StefanPotyra collaborated to bring forth a summary as promised of the MOTU Leadership Teams Membership Policy Discussion which can be found at <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004227.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004227.html</a><br>
<br>At this meeting, StefanPotyra agreed to chair, CodySomerville agreed to write the minutes, and EmmetHikory agreed to write a proposal to -MOTU. Vibrant discussion continued regarding the MOTU Leadership Teams Membership Policy. In contrast to previous discussions, a growing preference for, rationalized by a desire and proposed higher need for working teams rather than bureaucratic accuracy, a system that avoids voting was evident. Others, however, felt that such a system would be ill-defined, inherently more complex, and questionable as voting is used to measure the legitimacy of the leadership teams.<br>
<br>The proposal wrote by EmmetHikory can be found at <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004278.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004278.html</a></blockquote></div>
<br>Cheers,<br clear="all"><div><br>-- <br>Cody A.W. Somerville<br>Software Engineer<br>Red Cow Marketing &amp; Technologies, Inc.<br>Office: 506-458-1290<br>Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699<br>Fax: 506-453-9112<br>Cell: 506-449-5899<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:cody@redcow.ca">cody@redcow.ca</a><br><a href="http://www.redcow.ca">http://www.redcow.ca</a><br>
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Thanks,
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-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam@sbcglobal.net>
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Frequency scaling not working
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:01:47 -0600

On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 15:32 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > However, I see only the cpuspeeds (5 of them) displayed by:
> > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
> > So why are there 8 throttle settings? What setting would give me no
> > throttling? It is a mystery.
> >
> You may want to read the documentation in Documentation/cpu-freq in
> the kernel docs. It covers this. A lot of how you can set things
> depends on the "governor" you select to control CPU speed. For your
> use, you should probably select "performance".

I will probbably regret asking this, but where do you find:
Documentation/cpu-freq
What kernel docs are you referring to?

======================================
I was right I immediately regretted asking the above question since I found the
section referred to.

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Alan Cox wrote:

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:25:00 +0800
edwardspl@ita.org.mo wrote:



Hello to you,

I found out there is no any non-raid adapter product from 3ware company...
Is it really ?



I am not aware of one. Any random generic PCI ATA controller should
handle 500GB drives today however, and you can normally pick up good
SIL680 based boards for peanuts.

Alan


Hello Alan,



Sorry, pardon me...



Thanks !



Edward.



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On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> > So to wrap this long rant up, less people use Debian? Who cares!
> > People who use it *know* why they use it. Why try to "sell" a distro
> > to people who are still impressed by CFLAGS and a ton of eye-candy?
> > That extra 1% of performance, but occasional crashes? Who tweak their
> > systems all day long, but are doing essentially nothing?
>
> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)

No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A "pick
two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The
point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a
corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one,
if you ask me.

Ivan


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On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>> > So to wrap this long rant up, less people use Debian? Who cares!
>> > People who use it *know* why they use it. Why try to "sell" a distro
>> > to people who are still impressed by CFLAGS and a ton of eye-candy?
>> > That extra 1% of performance, but occasional crashes? Who tweak their
>> > systems all day long, but are doing essentially nothing?
>>
>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
>
> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A "pick
> two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The
> point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a
> corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one,
> if you ask me.

Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
time...

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We want... a Shrubbery!!
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Forwarding Stani's response to the list.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Ubuntu Open Week is coming!
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:11:35 +0200
From: Stani <spe.stani.be@gmail.com>
Organization: Stani's Python Editor
To: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@ubuntu.com>
References: <47EB9258.8080409@ubuntu.com> <47EE3951.5080701@gmail.com>
<47F07E17.9050500@ubuntu.com> <47F55F1B.3020703@ubuntu.com>


Op vrijdag 04-04-2008 om 00:50 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Emilio
Pozuelo Monfort:
> Daniel Holbach wrote:
> > Stani schrieb:
> >> I don't have sufficient knowledge to host such a session, but pochu
> >> volunteered to do it and added it to the wiki. I could help translating
> >> this session to a wiki MOTU tutorial for which I think there is a high
> >> demand.
> >
> > Excellent! Thanks Stani and Emilio! I'm sure Pythoneers around the world
> > will appreciate it. Do you know good channels to advertise such a
> > session in Python Upstream land (once the date and time are set)?
>
> There's the distutils mailing list [1]. Distutils is a Python module used for
> packaging Python modules and applications, so I believe that's a very good place.
>
> I don't know of other interesting places... Stani, do you know of somewhere else?
As I mentioned earlier:
- comp.lang.python(.announce)
- wxpython user list

The question also pops up on the ubuntuforums, so it could be announced
there as well.

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Ron Johnson wrote:
| On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
|> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
<snip>
|>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
|> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A "pick
|> two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The
|> point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a
|> corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one,
|> if you ask me.
|
| Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
| time...

No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the only truly
GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for the uneducated masses,
who don't care about being right. We are smarter and better than they are,
because we choose Debian - all hail the mighty Debian!"

That would be elitist.

Regards,
Chris
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On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
> |> <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> |>
> |> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A
> |> "pick two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please
> |> everyone. The point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's
> |> goals and a corresponding target group was gathered around them.
> |> And a good one, if you ask me.
> |
> | Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
> | time...
>
> No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the
> only truly GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for
> the uneducated masses, who don't care about being right. We are
> smarter and better than they are, because we choose Debian - all hail
> the mighty Debian!"

According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him give
last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it includes
non-free software.

I'm not saying I agree with him on this, but it is his opinion that
there are only a few truly free distros out there. He named them and
I've forgotten them, but they were not any names I recognized or had
heard of before and I'm familiar with at least the top 25-50 names.

Hal


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