Verizon blocks 25 on FiOS, and consumer level service agreements usually
prohibit you from running servers. I to asked Verizon about their
business service, and it same pipe branded for businesses was 3 times
more expensive which meant that I ended up with a virtual hosted
solution for our mail and web server.


/Allan


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On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 13:24 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:

> Mmm, I'm on Comcast. I tried configuring postfix last week when I
> noticed that port 25 is blocked outbound. I gave up when I couldn't
> make postfix use SMTP AUTH...

Oh, I'm so sorry. I recently switched from Comcast myself. Word of
warning: Cancelling your Comcast service will cause Comcast to make up
charges and send you to a collection agency even if you close your
account with a $0 balance and return all equipment. Thanks to that, I
hurt their rating at the BBB in return, as well as their collection
agency for buying a false debt in the first place.

Good luck.

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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:56:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca> was heard to say:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 07:13 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > [0] I don't drink coffee, but I believe that four or five cups here in
> > Seattle would equal my monthly $20 payment to Slicehost.
>
> You're doing it wrong. Buy the whole bean coffee, grind and brew it
> yourself and $20 is closer to 50-100 cups of coffee. Coffee grinder and
> french press for the win.

I'm not doing it at all.

Daniel


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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
> > Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
> > >
> > > If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
> > > your data and your apps on your local machine.
> >
> > So what would you recommend for a free, ISP-independent email service
> > with IMAP and a sensible amount of storage space?
>
> Host it yourself on an extra machine shoved in a closet. Works for me.
>
> > The reason I use Gmail is because there is no way I can set up
> > everything for email on a local server (not the least of which
> > preventing this is the restrictions of a consumer-level ISP) and no
> > other free mail service provides the same benefits as Gmail.
>
> There's always other ISPs. If you're on Comcast, try switching to DSL.
> The telcos are, for the first time in a very long time, the lesser of
> two evils.

I want to second that on switching to DSL. Further, you can often
find DSL resellers that work with the phone company but have their own
block of ip. My guy charges me about $60.00 per year on top of the
regular dsl charge. For that I get true static ip in a non-dynamic ip
block (keeps me off the blacklists). I get fantastic personalized
service. And I get a complete hands off policy with no closed
ports. The speed is not as good as cable, but I don't really care. It's
plenty fast enough for whatever I feel like doing.

A

On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:34 -0700, David Barrett wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
> > >
> > >> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
> > >
> > > I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
> > > often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my
> > > password was rejected.
> > >
> > > If I go to the webinterface I am requested to pass a captcha test. This
> > > is getting pretty annoying!
> >
> > I'm having this all the time as well. I use Thunderbird with IMAP with
> > two different Google Apps accounts, and the passwords for both just
> > spontaneously stop working for a while, and then start working again
> > shortly.
>
> Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?

I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.

Regards,
Andrei
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On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
>> Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?
>
> I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.

If that helps, then you didn't cure the problem, only mask it. I
say that because I've been doing 5 minute fetchmail pulls for 4
years, and it works like a charm.

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox <debian-user@lists.bobcox.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson (baloo@ursine.ca) wrote:
>
> > Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
>
> Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
>
> I use Zen Internet www.zen.co.uk - although there several other UK ISPs
> offering static IP, rDNS etc - http://aaisp.net/ and
> http://www.ukfsn.org spring to mind.

I'm confused; neither this message nor your previous one in this thread
contains any header mentioning zen.

> Bob Cox. Stoke Gifford, near Bristol, UK.

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On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
> Bob Cox <debian-user@lists.bobcox.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson (baloo@ursine.ca) wrote:
>>
>>> Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
>> Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
>>
>> I use Zen Internet www.zen.co.uk - although there several other UK ISPs
>> offering static IP, rDNS etc - http://aaisp.net/ and
>> http://www.ukfsn.org spring to mind.
>
> I'm confused; neither this message nor your previous one in this thread
> contains any header mentioning zen.

That's right. Straight from gaia.bobcox.net to liszt.debian.org.

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On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson (ron.l.johnson@cox.net) wrote:

> On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
> > Bob Cox <debian-user@lists.bobcox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson (baloo@ursine.ca) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
> >> Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
> >>
> >> I use Zen Internet www.zen.co.uk - although there several other UK ISPs
> >> offering static IP, rDNS etc - http://aaisp.net/ and
> >> http://www.ukfsn.org spring to mind.
> >
> > I'm confused; neither this message nor your previous one in this thread
> > contains any header mentioning zen.
>
> That's right. Straight from gaia.bobcox.net to liszt.debian.org.

I'm sorry! But I thought you guys were geeks and could do the detective
work ;-)

You found the right line:

Received: from gaia.bobcox.net (gaia.bobcox.net [82.71.52.122])
by liszt.debian.org

gaia.bobcox.net [82.71.52.122] is me. 82.71.52.122 is my static IP,
provided by the good people at Zen.

$ whois 82.71.52.122 should give you the information.

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