On Monday, April 23, 2012 02:39:10 PM Jason Pyeron wrote:
> We have been migrating a single RHEL3 box for several years. Shoot me now
> please.

I still have a 'not internet-connected' CentOS 2.1 server for one particular application. Hrmph, I still have a Red Hat Linux 5.2 box in production for a really old application that the client 'just can't live without' (but they are just about finished with an 8 year long migration over to something more modern.... the problem is that the 'modern' target keeps moving.....). The people with the RHL5 box were considering upgrading to CentOS 2.1 for that application (it's a libc5-based binary-only app with no vendor support (vendor's upgrade doesn't support features heavily used by client's app!)).

I suggested something completely different, and they've been on-again/off-again migrating to something ever newer.... looks like they are about 90% of the way there, using a PHP app framework that keeps getting upgrades....

None of these are internet connected; an RHL5.2 box on the live internet... hmm, might be old enough that current metasploit and script kiddie frameworks may not work..... but that's probably a pipe dream....
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=== Signoff report for [community-testing] ===
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* 0 packages not accepting signoffs
* 0 fully signed off packages
* 8 packages missing signoffs
* 0 packages older than 14 days

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== New packages in [community-testing] in last 24 hours (2 total) ==

* ndiswrapper-1.57-8 (i686)
* ndiswrapper-1.57-8 (x86_64)


== Incomplete signoffs for [community] (3 total) ==

* systemd-arch-units-20120412-1 (any)
0/2 signoffs
* ndiswrapper-1.57-8 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* ndiswrapper-1.57-8 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs

== Incomplete signoffs for [unknown] (5 total) ==

* vicious-2.0.4-2 (any)
0/2 signoffs
* awesome-3.4.11-3 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* mariadb-5.5.23-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* awesome-3.4.11-3 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* mariadb-5.5.23-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs


== Top five in signoffs in last 24 hours ==

1. allan - 6 signoffs
2. dan - 4 signoffs
3. foutrelis - 2 signoffs
4. andyrtr - 1 signoffs
5. pierre - 1 signoffs

=== Signoff report for [testing] ===
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* 0 known bad packages
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== New packages in [testing] in last 24 hours (8 total) ==

* binutils-2.22-6 (i686)
* linux-3.3.3-1 (i686)
* linux-lts-3.0.29-1 (i686)
* openldap-2.4.31-1 (i686)
* binutils-2.22-6 (x86_64)
* linux-3.3.3-1 (x86_64)
* linux-lts-3.0.29-1 (x86_64)
* openldap-2.4.31-1 (x86_64)


== Incomplete signoffs for [core] (17 total) ==

* binutils-2.22-6 (i686)
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* cryptsetup-1.4.1-3 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* dmraid-1.0.0.rc16.3-3 (i686)
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* linux-3.3.3-1 (i686)
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* linux-lts-3.0.29-1 (i686)
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* lvm2-2.02.95-2 (i686)
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* mdadm-3.2.3-2 (i686)
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* openldap-2.4.31-1 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* rpcbind-0.2.0-8 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* binutils-2.22-6 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* cryptsetup-1.4.1-3 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* dmraid-1.0.0.rc16.3-3 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* linux-lts-3.0.29-1 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* mdadm-3.2.3-2 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* openldap-2.4.31-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* rpcbind-0.2.0-8 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* syslog-ng-3.3.5-1 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs

== Incomplete signoffs for [extra] (19 total) ==

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* cairo-1.12.0-4 (i686)
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* freenx-0.7.3-11 (i686)
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* grub2-1:2.00beta4-1 (i686)
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* nx-common-3.5.0-5 (i686)
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* nxclient-3.5.0.7-2 (i686)
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* xf86-input-vmmouse-12.8.0-2 (i686)
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* xf86-input-wacom-0.14.0-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-video-ati-6.14.4-4 (i686)
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* xorg-server-1.12.1-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* cairo-1.12.0-4 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* freenx-0.7.3-11 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* grub2-1:2.00beta4-1 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* nx-common-3.5.0-5 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* nxclient-3.5.0.7-2 (x86_64)
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* xf86-input-wacom-0.14.0-2 (x86_64)
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1/2 signoffs
* xorg-server-1.12.1-2 (x86_64)
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* dnssec-anchors-20120422-1 (any)
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* lv2-1.0.0-2 (i686)
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* nx-3.5.0.12-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* lv2-1.0.0-2 (x86_64)
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* netcfg-2.8.1-1 (any)
* dnsutils-9.9.0-2 (i686)
* kmod-8-1 (i686)
* openssh-6.0p1-1 (i686)
* syslog-ng-3.3.5-1 (i686)
* dnsutils-9.9.0-2 (x86_64)
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* linux-3.3.3-1 (x86_64)
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* openssh-6.0p1-1 (x86_64)
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2. dan - 4 signoffs
3. foutrelis - 2 signoffs
4. andyrtr - 1 signoffs
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Hello,

I found nice workaround, when i try to debug problem with krunner,
kscreensaver, etc..

Next steps solve this problem without downgrading to previous version
of Qt:

1. Sync abs tree from root
2. Go to /var/abs/extra/kdebase-workspace
3. Edit PKGBUILD and change:

-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release

to

-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug

4. Same for /var/abs/extra/kdelibs

5. Build and install both packages with 'pacman -U'

After this trick krunner, kscreensaver, and some other components of
KDE start working as expected.

Also i prepare compiled packages (for x86_64):


http://lsupport.net/resources/files-library/category/6-packages-with-debug-symbols.html

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Hello,

I found nice workaround, when i try to debug problem with krunner,
kscreensaver, etc..

Next steps solve this problem without downgrading to previous version
of Qt:

1. Sync abs tree from root
2. Go to /var/abs/extra/kdebase-workspace
3. Edit PKGBUILD and change:

-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release

to

-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug

4. Same for /var/abs/extra/kdelibs

5. Build and install both packages with 'pacman -U'

After this trick krunner, kscreensaver, and some other components of
KDE start working as expected.

--
Best regards,
Dmitry Korzhevin
Tel: +38 (039) 295-0000
Office Phone: +38 (044) 383-14-12
E-mail: dkorzhevin@lsupport.net
Jabber ID: dkorzhevin@lsupport.net
Skype: dkorzhevin
URL: http://lsupport.net
Linux Support LLC

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:46:31 -0700, walt wrote:
>> On 04/23/2012 08:09 AM, Daniel Ibn Zayd wrote:
>>> I've been waiting for pango 1.30 to become available and this morning
>>> on syncing noticed that everything was emerge-able (28 or so items),
>>> so I updated....last on that list were gtk+ and image magick.
>>>
>>> Everything went fine until I got to gtk+; it's giving me the
>>> following error. I've tried looking up the error, and see something
>>> about conflicting X11 and Darwin....but I can't quite figure out how
>>> to go about fixing this from within portage....Any help is
>>> appreciated!
>>>
>>> _______________
>>>
>>> In file included from /opt/Gentoo/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:44, from
>>> ../gdk/x11/gdkx.h:30, from gtkapplication.c:48:
>>> /opt/Gentoo/usr/include/X11/X.h:103: error: conflicting types for
>>> 'Cursor'
>>> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/Quickdraw.h:278:
>>> error: previous declaration of 'Cursor' was here gtkapplication.c: In
>>> function 'gtk_application_startup_quartz':
>>
>> I know nothing about Darwin, so I'm asking instead of answering
>>
>> It appears that you are installing gentoo as a virtual machine to be
>> run from inside of Darwin, is that how it works?
>>
>>


Yes, more like its own shell/compiler environment. I tried both fink and macports to deal with packages on some old Macs; the problem with fink (which I had no real problem with otherwise) is that it wasn't obvious how to keep packages separate from the System stuff (like the System Perl), so I had a nightmare dealing with a different Perl version, plus CPAN, plus fink, and they didn't want to get along so well; macports did crazy stuff like make itself owner of apps and member of groups; again, a serious problem with boundaries. Gentoo took a while to get installed, but I'm really happy that everything is living in its own space....it comes with its own shell and basic apps and Perl and and and....so I don't have to worry that I'm going to mess up my basic OSX system.

On 04/24/2012 05:48 AM, Daniel Ibn Zayd wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:46:31 -0700, walt wrote:
>>>
>>> It appears that you are installing gentoo as a virtual machine to
>>> be run from inside of Darwin, is that how it works?

>
> Yes, more like its own shell/compiler environment. I tried both fink
> and macports to deal with packages on some old Macs; the problem with
> fink (which I had no real problem with otherwise) is that it wasn't
> obvious how to keep packages separate from the System stuff (like the
> System Perl), so I had a nightmare dealing with a different Perl
> version, plus CPAN, plus fink, and they didn't want to get along so
> well; macports did crazy stuff like make itself owner of apps and
> member of groups; again, a serious problem with boundaries. Gentoo
> took a while to get installed, but I'm really happy that everything
> is living in its own space....it comes with its own shell and basic
> apps and Perl and and and....so I don't have to worry that I'm going
> to mess up my basic OSX system.

Sounds like you understand the problems better than I do. Assuming
you have a newer Intel-based machine, *I* would say install gentoo as
the host OS and run OSX as a VirtualBox guest. I might even be able to
help you do it that way

=== Signoff report for [community-testing] ===
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* 0 known bad packages
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== Incomplete signoffs for [community] (3 total) ==

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* ndiswrapper-1.57-8 (x86_64)
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== Incomplete signoffs for [unknown] (5 total) ==

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* awesome-3.4.11-3 (i686)
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* mariadb-5.5.23-2 (i686)
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* awesome-3.4.11-3 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* mariadb-5.5.23-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs


== Top five in signoffs in last 24 hours ==

1. eric - 5 signoffs
2. allan - 5 signoffs

=== Signoff report for [testing] ===
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/

There are currently:
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* 0 known bad packages
* 0 packages not accepting signoffs
* 6 fully signed off packages
* 41 packages missing signoffs
* 0 packages older than 14 days

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pkgbase, architecture, and repository; e.g., one PKGBUILD produces one
package per architecture, even if it is a split package.)


== New packages in [testing] in last 24 hours (7 total) ==

* autoconf-2.69-1 (any)
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* grep-2.12-1 (i686)
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* zeitgeist-0.9.0-1 (x86_64)


== Incomplete signoffs for [core] (17 total) ==

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* binutils-2.22-6 (i686)
1/2 signoffs
* cryptsetup-1.4.1-3 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* dmraid-1.0.0.rc16.3-3 (i686)
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* fakeroot-1.18.3-1 (i686)
1/2 signoffs
* grep-2.12-1 (i686)
1/2 signoffs
* lvm2-2.02.95-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* mdadm-3.2.3-2 (i686)
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* openldap-2.4.31-1 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* rpcbind-0.2.0-8 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* binutils-2.22-6 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* cryptsetup-1.4.1-3 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* dmraid-1.0.0.rc16.3-3 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* fakeroot-1.18.3-1 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* grep-2.12-1 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* openldap-2.4.31-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* rpcbind-0.2.0-8 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs

== Incomplete signoffs for [extra] (20 total) ==

* grub2-efi-x86_64-1:2.00beta4-1 (any)
0/2 signoffs
* cairo-1.12.0-4 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* freenx-0.7.3-11 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* grub2-1:2.00beta4-1 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* nx-common-3.5.0-5 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* nxclient-3.5.0.7-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-input-vmmouse-12.8.0-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-input-wacom-0.14.0-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-video-ati-6.14.4-4 (i686)
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* xorg-server-1.12.1-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* zeitgeist-0.9.0-1 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* cairo-1.12.0-4 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* freenx-0.7.3-11 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* grub2-1:2.00beta4-1 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* nx-common-3.5.0-5 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* nxclient-3.5.0.7-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-input-vmmouse-12.8.0-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-input-wacom-0.14.0-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* xf86-video-ati-6.14.4-4 (x86_64)
1/2 signoffs
* zeitgeist-0.9.0-1 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs

== Incomplete signoffs for [unknown] (4 total) ==

* lv2-1.0.0-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* nx-3.5.0.12-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* lv2-1.0.0-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* nx-3.5.0.12-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs


== Completed signoffs (6 total) ==

* netcfg-2.8.1-1 (any)
* syslog-ng-3.3.5-1 (i686)
* lvm2-2.02.95-2 (x86_64)
* mdadm-3.2.3-2 (x86_64)
* syslog-ng-3.3.5-1 (x86_64)
* xorg-server-1.12.1-2 (x86_64)


== Top five in signoffs in last 24 hours ==

1. eric - 5 signoffs
2. allan - 5 signoffs

=== Signoff report for [community-testing] ===
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/

There are currently:
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* 0 known bad packages
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* 0 packages older than 14 days

(Note: the word 'package' as used here refers to packages as grouped by
pkgbase, architecture, and repository; e.g., one PKGBUILD produces one
package per architecture, even if it is a split package.)


== New packages in [community-testing] in last 24 hours (1 total) ==

* systemd-arch-units-20120412-2 (any)


== Incomplete signoffs for [community] (1 total) ==

* systemd-arch-units-20120412-2 (any)
0/2 signoffs

== Incomplete signoffs for [unknown] (5 total) ==

* vicious-2.0.4-2 (any)
0/2 signoffs
* awesome-3.4.11-3 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* mariadb-5.5.23-2 (i686)
0/2 signoffs
* awesome-3.4.11-3 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs
* mariadb-5.5.23-2 (x86_64)
0/2 signoffs


== Top five in signoffs in last 24 hours ==

1. dan - 4 signoffs
2. eric - 3 signoffs