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Old 08-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Brian
 
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On Mon 15 Aug 2011 at 02:28:27 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

[This is a blatent attempt to deflect criticism away from Google]

> I don't know how people cope without Noscript and AdBlock Plus - that

Very easily.


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Old 08-14-2011, 08:11 PM
"Charlie Zender"
 
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Hi,

I have now noticed this WiFi bug in Ubuntu Natty on two
different Dell laptops, a Precision m6300 and a Precision m6500.
Both these laptops use Intel wireless cards.
On these machines if I do the standard Dell hardware keypress to
turn WiFi off/on (Fn+F2 = blue function key + F2), then the WiFi
does turn off but _it will not turn back on the next time_.
The visual indicator is that the blue LED keyboard light that
indicates WiFi activity on Dells goes dark and stays dark.
Sadly, rebooting does not solve the problem.
The WiFi is permanently disabled in Linux by pressing Fn+F2.

Both these machines are dual-boot, and when running Windows
the WiFi works flawlessly and the Fn+F2 key behaves as expected.
How do I get the Linux WiFi working again? Both machines use
the standard network manager (NM) + applet to manage wireless.
Now that WiFi is disabled the NM applet does not see the WiFi,
so this is not a matter of configuring access points etc.
The WiFi seems to be turned off in hardware.

Any help appreciated,
Charlie
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:30 PM
Ernest Doub
 
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Jordon Bedwell <jordon@envygeeks.com> wrote:

On 08/14/2011 12:12 PM, Tero Pesonen wrote:

> Come on. Why do you need to try and make me look selfish and stupid?



Right, I'm not trying to make you look stupid, if I thought you were

stupid I would come out and say it. *I don't know how somebody gathers

being implied as stupid from that statement anyhow, but there you have

it. On the previous subject I was just returning your favour in a more

blunt way



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Old 08-15-2011, 12:58 AM
"Cybe R. Wizard"
 
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:12:35 +0300
Tero Pesonen <mail@tpesonen.net> didst polemicize thusly:

> But please, direct me towards
> those rules, then, because I have not seen them. They are not on the
> sign-up page, nor in the code of conduct. I am in favour of letting
> the receiver choose when nothing more specific is dictated, as was
> the case here according to my best knowledge. He let that happen and
> I said that was a good thing.

(trust me, the link to the rules is to be found down below)

This has long been a point of contention. I maintain (and always have)
that, if rules are needed at all, those rules need to be stated very
clearly. One strict antique truck list to which I belong posts the list
rules daily. That might be a good idea here where the membership is
ever-changing.

Nevertheless, the rules should be easily accessible and obvious to each
and every one. How about having them right there on, oh, I dunno, ..
the /sign-up page/?

In fact, Mark 'SABDFL' failed to get the point during one discussion
when he sent this reply:

---------Quoted mail below---------
From: Mark Shuttleworth <mark@canonical.com>
To: "Cybe R. Wizard" <cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>
CC: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com, Sounder <sounder@lists.ubuntu.com>,
James Troup <james.troup@canonical.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Bug
495391] [NEW] Not clear if CoC applies only to official Ubuntu
Members or also to community in general] Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009
14:01:16 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817)

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> If we wish to hold users of the mailing list to these 'suggestions'
> then it would behoove us to include the information /that these
> guidelines even exist/ for those who wish to sign up.
>
It's a great suggestion that we should point to the Code of Conduct on
all the email list signup pages. James, could you put that into action,
please?

Nevertheless, it's also perfectly reasonable that there be a code of
conduct that applies to a list. Everyone on ubuntu-users should now be
absolutely clear that this is the case, and that users who can't
exercise the appropriate judgment are not welcome on this list and
others at lists.ubuntu.com.

I would ask everyone on these lists to help new folks find their feet,
and help set the tone for the conversations that unfold here.

Mark
---------End quoted mail---------

Obviously it isn't the Code of Conduct that needed a pointer, although
that was a good idea and was implemented. The rules for the mailing
lists:
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
are what should have a link. That, more than the CofC, would surely
forestall a lot of discussion on HTML, top posting, quoting and so on.

Heh, one could then justifiably wave the mailing list rules about like a
gun!

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Old 08-15-2011, 01:56 AM
Scott Ferguson
 
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On 15/08/11 05:36, Brian wrote:

On Mon 15 Aug 2011 at 02:28:27 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

[This is a blatent attempt to deflect criticism away from Google]


Put whatever paranoid spin on it that you want. I don't care who places
the advertisements - I don't want to download or view them.





I don't know how people cope without Noscript and AdBlock Plus - that


Very easily.



Cheers

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matter to me. What matters is that if you believe in the sanctity of
life then you believe it for life of all ages. That's what I hate about
this child-worship syndrome going on. "Save the children! They're
killing children! How many children were at Waco? They're killing
children!" What does that mean? They reach a certain age and they're off
your [beep] love-list? [beep] your children, if that's the way you think
then [beep] you too. You either love all people of all ages or you shut
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:33 AM
"Steve M. Robbins"
 
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Anyone interested in (re-)packaging kdirstat?

----- Forwarded message from "Steve M. Robbins" <smr@debian.org> -----

Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:24:30 -0500
From: "Steve M. Robbins" <smr@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RFP: k4dirstat -- graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities
X-Mailer: reportbug 6.0

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

This is a KDE4 update of kdirstat (now removed from the archive).

* Package name : k4dirstat
Version : 2.7.0
Upstream Author : Stefan Hundhammer <sh@suse.de>, Joshua Hodosh <kdirstat@grumpypenguin.org>
* URL : http://grumpypenguin.org/index.php?/archives/3-KDirStat-coming-to-KDE4.html
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C++
Description : graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities

KDirStat (KDE Directory Statistics) is a small utility program that sums
up disk usage for directory trees, very much like the Unix 'du' command.
It displays the disk space used up by a directory tree, both numerically
and graphically. It is network transparent (i.e., you can use it to sum
up FTP servers), and comes with predefined and user configurable cleanup
actions. You can directly open a directory branch in Konqueror or the
shell of your choice, compress it to a .tar.bz2 archive, or define your
own cleanup actions.

----- End forwarded message -----
 
Old 08-16-2011, 05:50 AM
 
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:40 AM
Xavier Brochard
 
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Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> Anyone interested in (re-)packaging kdirstat?

Just in case:
There is already a package built for Ubuntu Natty. The builder reported that
it work also on Sid and Squeeze.
https://launchpad.net/~jeromerobert/+archive/misc

xavier


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Old 08-18-2011, 01:22 PM
Jon Ciesla
 
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I do some macro gymnastics with vym to prevent it Requiring a perl
module that's named one thing in SuSE and another in Fedora. With my
latest f17 build, that stopped working, while builds of the same code
and spec on f15 and f16 seem to be ok. Did rpm's behaviour change?


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Old 08-18-2011, 01:42 PM
Iain Arnell
 
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Jon Ciesla <limb@jcomserv.net> wrote:
> I do some macro gymnastics with vym to prevent it Requiring a perl module
> that's named one thing in SuSE and another in Fedora. *With my latest f17
> build, that stopped working, while builds of the same code and spec on f15
> and f16 seem to be ok. *Did rpm's behaviour change?

The perl_default_filter macro changed with perl 5.14. We're now using
rpm's native __requires_exclude macro (and friends) instead of the
slightly hacky filter_setup stuff. Ideally, we'd drop the
filter_setup/filter_from_requires entirely, but to keep a single spec
compatible with all current fedora branches, you can do:

--- vym.spec.orig 2011-07-20 19:58:57.000000000 +0200
+++ vym.spec 2011-08-18 15:37:06.427529132 +0200
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
%filter_from_requires /^perl(BugzillaClient)$/d
%?perl_default_filter
}
+%global __requires_exclude
%{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}perl(Bu gzillaClient)
Requires: perl-BZ-Client

%description


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