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Old 06-06-2011, 04:50 PM
Sebastian Beler
 
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Am 06.06.2011 18:38, schrieb Indi:

> BTW, the testing I did was with version 3.1.10, and with portage
> building it, rather than using thunderbird-bin. The version of
> xulrunner is 2.0.1-r1i, which seems to be working just fine with
> both firefox and conkeror (no, I don't mean "konqueror").

Thunderbird doesn't use system xulrunner.
I use mail-client/thunderbird-3.1.10 and xulrunner-5.0_beta2 for firefox.

From thunderbird-3.1.10.ebuild

RDEPEND=">=sys-devel/binutils-2.16.1
>=dev-libs/nss-3.12.8
>=dev-libs/nspr-4.8.6
>=app-text/hunspell-1.2
x11-libs/cairo[X]
x11-libs/pango[X]
alsa? ( media-libs/alsa-lib )
gnome? ( >=gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3
>=gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.16.1
>=gnome-base/gconf-2.16.0
>=gnome-base/libgnome-2.16.0 )
libnotify? ( >=x11-libs/libnotify-0.4 )
system-sqlite? (
>=dev-db/sqlite-3.7.1[fts3,secure-delete,threadsafe] )
wifi? ( net-wireless/wireless-tools )
!x11-plugins/lightning"

DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
=dev-lang/python-2*[threads]"

PDEPEND="crypt? ( >=x11-plugins/enigmail-1.1 )"

Xulrunner is no dependency for thunderbird, so the version of
system-xulrunner can't have an effect on thunderbird.

Greetings

Sebastian
 
Old 06-06-2011, 05:04 PM
Indi
 
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On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:50:34PM +0200, Sebastian Beler wrote:
>
>
> Thunderbird doesn't use system xulrunner.
> I use mail-client/thunderbird-3.1.10 and xulrunner-5.0_beta2 for firefox.
>

Thanks for the info.
What matters though is that it is very hard to configure properly
for people who need larger fonts so I'm not going to bother
with it further. Even if userChrome.css worked in the version I tested
it's too much to expect users to deal with that, and it would add to my
workload. "Call the admin to change your config" is a meme to be avoided.


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Old 06-06-2011, 05:19 PM
Sebastian Beler
 
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Am 06.06.2011 19:04, schrieb Indi:

> Thanks for the info.
> What matters though is that it is very hard to configure properly
> for people who need larger fonts so I'm not going to bother
> with it further.

Not every tool is for every user or every need.
If there a better tool to use then why bother with something less.
I'm not a thunderbird fanboy so i can accept that t-bird has its
limitations and its problems and that it is not for everyone.

Greetings

Sebastian
 
Old 06-06-2011, 05:49 PM
Indi
 
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On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:19:40PM +0200, Sebastian Beler wrote:
>
> Not every tool is for every user or every need.
> If there a better tool to use then why bother with something less.
> I'm not a thunderbird fanboy so i can accept that t-bird has its
> limitations and its problems and that it is not for everyone.
>

Thank you for understanding.
I don't get the thing of people having a personal stake in what others
choose, but it does seem to be pretty common.

I appreciate the people who tried to help, and I understand those who
cried "PEBKAC" too. But once it's clear I've followed the same
directions the same way as others and didn't get the same result, it's
time to ask "is this really important enough to pursue further?".
Sometimes the answer is "no".

In this case, claws-mail looks *much* easier to support.
Certainly I see the appeal of tbird though, it's responsive and in every
way other than the font sizes (and maybe the addressbook, though I
didn't go as deeply into that) it's a pretty impressive piece of work.

I just want to deploy something more idiot-proof.
And those of you who obviously think *I'm* an idiot, you should
meet some of my users! Make me look like the Stephen Hawking of
sysadmins...

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Old 06-06-2011, 06:01 PM
James
 
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Indi <thebeelzebubtrigger <at> gmail.com> writes:


> Sadly, a lot of people (including developers) seem to think that people
> either see or are blind and that's it. I see plenty well enough for most
> things that need doing (the state of GA even says I can drive, but then
> if you've ever been here you know they say that to anyone who pays the
> fee for a DL and doesn't have a seeing eye dog or white cane).


Ha!


Come to Florida; if you are a member of AARP, they'll let you
drive until you run over your second or third victim....


We have folks every week that park their car inside of their
neighbor's living room. Mix that traffic pattern with Tourists
of vacation and you can see just how fun our roads are here.....
Florida leads the nation in fatalities on bicycle and the County
I live in, has the most annual deaths for bicyclers ......
 
Old 06-06-2011, 06:07 PM
James
 
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Indi <thebeelzebubtrigger <at> gmail.com> writes:


> The font thing is one of the main reasons I prefer so many CLI programs.
> I can configure my terminals and emulators *once* and most everything I
> need is usable. A lot of the gtk, qt, fltk, etc interfaces are
> absolutely horrible for people who need large text, and it isn't
> uncommon for the boxes text has to fit in to be coded to max-out to
> a size which is insufficient.


Using seamonkey as the browser, you can just set your middle mouse
button or wheel to roll up and down the size of the font for anything
you see. Very convenient for folks that constantly need to adjust fonts sizes.
I never tried to set this up for T-bird, so I'm not sure if that approach
works with T-bird or for your gerontology crowd.


hth,
James
 
Old 06-06-2011, 06:15 PM
Bill Longman
 
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On 06/06/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:
>
> Using seamonkey as the browser, you can just set your middle mouse
> button or wheel to roll up and down the size of the font for anything
> you see. Very convenient for folks that constantly need to adjust fonts sizes.
> I never tried to set this up for T-bird, so I'm not sure if that approach
> works with T-bird or for your gerontology crowd.

Doesn't work. Works in Namoroka (x86_64 under KDE) using
Ctrl-middle-roll but just scrolls things in Lanikai; no font change there.
 
Old 06-06-2011, 06:24 PM
Indi
 
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:01:35 +0000 (UTC)
James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Indi <thebeelzebubtrigger <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> > Sadly, a lot of people (including developers) seem to think that
> > people either see or are blind and that's it. I see plenty well
> > enough for most things that need doing (the state of GA even says I
> > can drive, but then if you've ever been here you know they say that
> > to anyone who pays the fee for a DL and doesn't have a seeing eye
> > dog or white cane).
>
>
> Ha!
>
>
> Come to Florida; if you are a member of AARP, they'll let you
> drive until you run over your second or third victim....
>
>
> We have folks every week that park their car inside of their
> neighbor's living room. Mix that traffic pattern with Tourists
> of vacation and you can see just how fun our roads are here.....
> Florida leads the nation in fatalities on bicycle and the County
> I live in, has the most annual deaths for bicyclers ......
>

I think it's Randy Cassingham in the This Is True newsletter who
often mentions the prevalence of crazy people n FL.
Given the weather, it's no great surprise. The heat here makes me
feel pretty looney sometimes.

Do people down there spend an inordinate amount of time setting off
explosives and shooting guns, like they do here in GA? Originally
I'm from NE PA, which is a pretty redneck place. But GA is a whole
nother thang, as they say. Most people are very nice though, it's
refreshing. That obsession with explosions though... Nerve wracking.

Never been further south than Alachua, which is actually pretty mellow
from what I saw -- but that was in early spring.

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Old 06-06-2011, 06:59 PM
Alan McKinnon
 
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Apparently, though unproven, at 20:24 on Monday 06 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:

> > We have folks every week that park their car inside of their
> > neighbor's living room. Mix that traffic pattern with Tourists
> > of vacation and you can see just how fun our roads are here.....
> > Florida leads the nation in fatalities on bicycle and the County
> > I live in, has the most annual deaths for bicyclers ......
> >
> >
>
> I think it's Randy Cassingham in the This Is True newsletter who
> often mentions the prevalence of crazy people n FL.
> Given the weather, it's no great surprise. The heat here makes me
> feel pretty looney sometimes.

Piffle :-)

You all ain't seen nothing yet, try Johannesburg.

We don't have lions and tigers in the streets but we got at least one of
anything else that's crazy



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Old 06-06-2011, 07:17 PM
Tim Gardner
 
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On 05/31/2011 01:11 PM, Manoj Iyer wrote:

The patch adds a quirk to disable the MMC card reader in
hardware and enable reading MMC cards using standard SD
interfaces.

This patch is upstream, it is Q'ed for 3.0 with stable@ tag.
Please refer https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/26/243

BugLink: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/790754

Signed-off-by: Manoj Iyer<manoj.iyer@canonical.com>
---
drivers/pci/quirks.c | 2 ++
include/linux/pci_ids.h | 1 +
2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/pci/quirks.c b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
index 9cd7000..7768cad 100644
--- a/drivers/pci/quirks.c
+++ b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
@@ -2721,6 +2721,8 @@ static void ricoh_mmc_fixup_r5c832(struct pci_dev *dev)
}
DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_RICOH, PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5C832, ricoh_mmc_fixup_r5c832);
DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_RESUME_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_RICOH , PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5C832, ricoh_mmc_fixup_r5c832);
+DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_RICOH, PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5CE823, ricoh_mmc_fixup_r5c832);
+DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_RESUME_EARLY(PCI_VENDOR_ID_RICO H, PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5CE823, ricoh_mmc_fixup_r5c832);
#endif /*CONFIG_MMC_RICOH_MMC*/

#if defined(CONFIG_DMAR) || defined(CONFIG_INTR_REMAP)
diff --git a/include/linux/pci_ids.h b/include/linux/pci_ids.h
index f1cbd85..7202ee1 100644
--- a/include/linux/pci_ids.h
+++ b/include/linux/pci_ids.h
@@ -1524,6 +1524,7 @@
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_RL5C476 0x0476
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_RL5C478 0x0478
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5C822 0x0822
+#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5CE823 0xe823
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5C832 0x0832
#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_RICOH_R5C843 0x0843



As this is a relatively simple patch, and is restricted to a specific
piece of hardware, I've applied it to Maverick, Natty, and Oneiric (with
minor commit log edits).


Please continue to pursue upstream inclusion.

rtg
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