On Monday 19 May 2008 01:20:07 pm Derek Broughton wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > 2008/5/12 Derek Broughton <firstname.lastname@example.org>:
> >> Oh sure - and you could get yourself a week of flames for even bringing
> >> up the subject of Webmin...
> > You'd get flamed for using it, but the community would help you
> > configure anything that you need, the right way. They'd rather teach
> > you to fish than give you a fish. That's why I use Debian on the
> > desktop. I use Ubuntu on the laptop with the problematic hardware,
> > however.
> That's _exactly_ the Debian problem. The "right" way is a matter of
> opinion. While Webmin modules often have problems, the problem is not
> _webmin_ - it's the individual modules. Personally (and list members
> should by now be getting tired of hearing me say this) I believe that GUI
> admin tools are _always_ the right way to do configuration, and this is
> pretty much anathema to many of the hardline debian geeks. Configuration
> should always be possible through a question/answer system, rather than
> hand-editing, because even the most experienced users make mistakes when
> hand-editing, while a GUI tool should always prevent syntactic errors.
I have to agree. Ironically, I always get people who complain about how many
clicks it takes to do things with a GUI, Question here, ...have they NEVER
counted the hundreds of key clicks it takes someone to do the same job via
CLI and then the extra ones it always takes because of a mis-spelled or
mis-applied command line or a forgotten argument. Even when they type out
how to do it so you can cut and paste, they forget to add to the count the 27
extra key clicks each of those printed out commands takes!
IE ..."(all the above on one line)"
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n>< * PDGA# 35276
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