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Old 10-07-2010, 05:16 PM
Michael Miles
 
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Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:20:38 -0500 David<dgboles@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On 10/7/2010 12:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/7/10 11:19 AM, David wrote:
>>>
>>>> But remember that not all blank Subject: emails are spam. Sometimes a
>>>> Newbie posts like that and it is a legitimate question or problem. As
>>>> well as the replies.
>>>>
>>> The list admins will probably hate this, but it could be more effective
>>> for the Mailman s/w to return such mail to sender with the comment that
>>> all mail to the list must have a non-empty Subject line. That could
>>> actually help the newbies and in general the spammers won't bother replying.
>>>
>>
>> Good idea. If that is possible (I don't doubt you) I wonder why no one
>> thought of it before now? I like that solution much more than just 'kill
>> file' or ignoring the post. :-)
>>
> Excellent idea. I try drilling into students that it is a security risk
> to send e-mail without subject.
>
> Ranjan
>
Basic rule here...

No header, no read...just delete
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Tim
 
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On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:16 -0700, Michael Miles wrote:
> Basic rule here...
>
> No header, no read...just delete


But, but, but... you read it! ;-)

Personally, I think it'd be nice if you could set a rule on your
software that if the subject line is, say, less than 7 characters long,
reject it.

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Old 10-07-2010, 06:31 PM
Ranjan Maitra
 
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:16:12 -0500 Michael Miles <mmamiga6@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:20:38 -0500 David<dgboles@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 10/7/2010 12:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/7/10 11:19 AM, David wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> But remember that not all blank Subject: emails are spam. Sometimes a
> >>>> Newbie posts like that and it is a legitimate question or problem. As
> >>>> well as the replies.
> >>>>
> >>> The list admins will probably hate this, but it could be more effective
> >>> for the Mailman s/w to return such mail to sender with the comment that
> >>> all mail to the list must have a non-empty Subject line. That could
> >>> actually help the newbies and in general the spammers won't bother replying.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good idea. If that is possible (I don't doubt you) I wonder why no one
> >> thought of it before now? I like that solution much more than just 'kill
> >> file' or ignoring the post. :-)
> >>
> > Excellent idea. I try drilling into students that it is a security risk
> > to send e-mail without subject.
> >
> > Ranjan
> >
> Basic rule here...
>
> No header, no read...just delete
>

Nice rule, except that it can not always be enforced.

Ranjan
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:00 PM
Mathieu Baudier
 
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> One possible solution is to have the main LDAP server addressable only
> via STARTTLS and a non-SSL, read-only slave on a different host that's
> visible only to your LAN.

Very interesting.
It would also address some concerns I had with all these third-party
LDAP plugins having (potential) write access to the repo.

Thanks a lot for the idea!
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:28 PM
Dan McGee
 
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Since the python rebuild is in progress, this has to go there anyway,
but let me know if you see any problems. There are a few good changes
in this release:
http://projects.archlinux.org/namcap.git/log/
http://projects.archlinux.org/namcap.git/tree/NEWS

-Dan
 
Old 10-07-2010, 09:17 PM
Drew
 
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> Well, that's simply *not* true... says the guy who, 20-30 years ago, had
> to read IBM mainframe manuals....

I can attest to IBM manuals of that era. :-)

Few years back while working for a bank I came across one of the
original manuals for the IBM 4702 Branch Controller. And I thought
early eServer manuals were a tough slog. ;-)


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Old 10-08-2010, 12:15 AM
Brian Mury
 
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On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 08:26 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote:
> Brian Mury <brianmury@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
> >This isn't a moderated list.
> >
> FYI, yes this list has moderators. However, messages sent by
> subscribed users are not blocked.

By definition, a moderated email list is one where messages must be
approved by a moderator before being forwarded to subscribers.


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Old 10-08-2010, 03:02 AM
Mauriat Miranda
 
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On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@iastate.edu> wrote:
> If you are talking about me, I *am not* the original poster. The OP posted to a number of addresses including
> users@lists.fedoraproject.org to which I responded asking how he went on to a moderated list. I have never seen him post to fedora before.
>

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-May/372178.html

It is quite possible that this person's email was either hijacked or
affected by some virus or malware. The email does belong to a
legitimate user.

I see this very often. I get an email with only a single link and no
subject, sometimes from people I know. I don't think the owner of the
email is intentionally doing this.

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Old 10-08-2010, 04:33 AM
"Allan McRae"
 
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Current status:

The python rebuild seems to have gone reasonably well overall with few
breakages. We currently have the following bugs open for the rebuild:


FS#21064 - [wicd] breaks with current testing

FS#21076 - python-configobj needs rebuild (for python3/2.7 change in
testing)


FS#21088 - [weechat] should have python2 instead of python in the optdepends

FS#21130 - avant-window-navigator applets still points to python3


The main issue here is the wicd one (the others are simple
fixes/rebuilds). Rémy has provided a patch which is reported to work
(with an addition), but I guess we are waiting on upstream to comment.


Allan
 
Old 10-08-2010, 07:02 AM
Indira ramasamy
 
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http://www.jtmpower.ie/mas5.html

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