Albert Hopkins wrote:

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:


Hi folks,


does he speak for all of you ?



huh?




This was sent to -dev too. It referenced this bug on that list.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326991

Still not sure what is going on with this yet. It's a head scratcher.

Dale

:-) :-)

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> does he speak for all of you ?
>
> ----- Forwarded message from bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org -----
>
> From: bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org
> Subject: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)
> To: weigelt@metux.de
> Reply-To: DO NOT REPLY <devnull@localhost.invalid>
> Date: Mon, *5 Jul 2010 19:39:48 +0000 (UTC)
>
> ------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org *2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
> lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
> OSS-QM. *we arent interested.
>

The "base-system" team maintains sys-libs/zlib, and he speaks for
"base-system". I think it's fairly implicit that he's talking about
packages maintained by him, and the teams he is in. Maintainers have
the final say w.r.t. packages maintained by them, the rest of us can
only give our opinion (except in extenuating circumstances).

To say it in precise words:

* He speaks for his packages, not for all packages in-tree.
* He speaks for himself, not all maintainers in-tree.
* Gentoo is not an anthropomorphic entity with a single coherent
opinion on anything unless decided by the council.

--
~Nirbheek Chauhan

Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> does he speak for all of you ?
[snip]

> Secure: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326991

Pretty much yes. Sorry.

Please don't cross post to mailing lists in the future.

--
solar <solar@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Linux

On Tuesday 06 July 2010 01:48:43 Dale wrote:
> Albert Hopkins wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >>
> >> does he speak for all of you ?
> >
> > huh?
>
> This was sent to -dev too. It referenced this bug on that list.
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326991
>
> Still not sure what is going on with this yet. It's a head scratcher.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)

Gentoo uses upstream master sources and cherry picked patches. Not quite as
rigid on upstream-only as say Slackware, but close.

Ubuntu chucks all manner of wild fancy-free patches into their distro with
nary a care in the world for the results - they are an experimental distro.

Red Hat and SLES deviate so far from upstream it just isn't funny anymore.
Their customer's need very different things to desktop users and gentoo
sysadmins.

Where's the common ground to combine all of that into one repository? The idea
is a pipe dream.

The correct place for stuff like that is in an overlay where it can be tested
then pushed upstream if found workable. From there it makes it's way down to
the users.

The OP is essentially asking to switch steps 2 and 3. flameeyes and spanky are
telling him not to pollute the tree in such a ways.


--
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В Втр, 06/07/2010 в 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt пишет:
> Hi folks,
> does he speak for all of you ?

Enrico I don't see why we may need to maintain separate ebuilds for
programs with patches scheduled upstream. Submit important patches
separately or, better, work with upstream so we'll get everything with
next upstream release.


> Subject: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from
> unofficial sources (???)

> ------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org 2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
> lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
> OSS-QM. we arent interested.


--
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On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 01:29:04AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> does he speak for all of you ?
>
> ------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org 2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
> lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
> OSS-QM. we arent interested.
>

What the heck is the OSS-QM?

No, the link in your sig didn't work, it returned a 404.

In any case, if the gentoo maintainers don't want to deal with it, and
if you really need it, and if you can't convince them to switch, then
maybe it is time to try a new distro?

Also, just because it is not *sanctioned* by the maintainers doesn't
mean it cannot go in an overlay somewhere.

W
--
Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton

Hi Gustin,

> I have put the raw results below along with the command line I used. It
> seems that there is an order of magnitude difference between the two.

Thanks for running these tests, the results will definitely change our
hardware designs in future.

> Just like with audio interfaces in general, USB sucks (actually USB sucks
> in general, it is just good enough for the tasks it is commonly used for).

At least you can recharge devices from a USB socket :-)

I'd be interested to know if the new RME Babyface can do any better than
the Midisport, if the problem is fundamental to USB itself.

I notice
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_techinfo.php?page=content/support/en_support_techinfo_steadyclock
doesn't mention USB or MIDI at all.

Cheers!

Daniel
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Hi Enrico,

Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> does he speak for all of you ?

OSS-QM strikes me personally as an odd solution. It could of course
be the right thing to do just the same, but I guess you will have to
make it more popular before it becomes a de-facto standard.

If you feel strongly about it (I guess you do) then I would suggest
that you make your own Gentoo overlay with all the packages. That way
it's be easy for anyone interested to test it out.


//Peter

On 06/07/2010 11:30, Peter Stuge wrote:

Hi Enrico,

Enrico Weigelt wrote:


does he speak for all of you ?


OSS-QM strikes me personally as an odd solution. It could of course
be the right thing to do just the same, but I guess you will have to
make it more popular before it becomes a de-facto standard.

If you feel strongly about it (I guess you do) then I would suggest
that you make your own Gentoo overlay with all the packages. That way
it's be easy for anyone interested to test it out.




The concept seems interesting though and as you say, exactly what an
overlay should help with.


I couldn't quickly find the official pages for OSS-QM, but some googling
suggests there is a limited overlay available already here:

http://repo.or.cz/w/oss-qm-packages.git/tree/GENTOO.overlay.master

Good luck

Ed W



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06.07.2010 15:52, Robert P. J. Day:


$mount
/dev/mapper/lynx-root on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
... snip ...
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
... snip ...

and, unsurprisingly, the boot-time failure states that the kernel
can't open root device "mapper/lynx-root" so this tells me that,
somehow, i haven't built device mapper support into my initrd or
something like that.

does this look familiar to anyone? what probably trivial step have
i forgotten to do? thanks.


I don't know.
I always put my root file-system on LVM and can't remember having had
any problems with that - neither with Ubuntu-provided nor with
self-built kernels.
The system you do update-initramfs on must have lvm2 installed, of
course. Maybe re-installing it helps?

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Ed W wrote:
> The concept seems interesting though and as you say, exactly what
> an overlay should help with.
>
> I couldn't quickly find the official pages for OSS-QM, but some
> googling suggests there is a limited overlay available already here:
> http://repo.or.cz/w/oss-qm-packages.git/tree/GENTOO.overlay.master

Good find. Enrico, I suggest you make an xml file for layman and try
to get your oosqm overlay into the layman list. If your ebuilds are
okey then that should be very quick.


//Peter