On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:37:10 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Maybe it was in braille? o_O

No, my screen was still smooth as well as blank

I'd say the answer is a definite maybe.


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On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
> > |> <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> > |>
> > |> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A
> > |> "pick two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please
> > |> everyone. The point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's
> > |> goals and a corresponding target group was gathered around them.
> > |> And a good one, if you ask me.
> > |
> > | Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
> > | time...
> >
> > No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the
> > only truly GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for
> > the uneducated masses, who don't care about being right. We are
> > smarter and better than they are, because we choose Debian - all hail
> > the mighty Debian!"
>
> According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him give
> last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it includes
> non-free software.
>
> I'm not saying I agree with him on this, but it is his opinion that
> there are only a few truly free distros out there. He named them and
> I've forgotten them, but they were not any names I recognized or had
> heard of before and I'm familiar with at least the top 25-50 names.
>
> Hal

AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
-- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
held in Belgrade, Serbia.

[1] https://www.ututo.org/www/?country=ENGLISH

Ivan


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Neil Bothwick pisze:

On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:37:10 -0500, Dale wrote:



Maybe it was in braille? o_O



No, my screen was still smooth as well as blank

I'd say the answer is a definite maybe.




There is nothing to laugh about - it's M$'s new mail filtering system.





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Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:37:10 -0500, Dale wrote:



Maybe it was in braille? o_O



No, my screen was still smooth as well as blank

I'd say the answer is a definite maybe.





Hmmmm, that was something else on my screen then. Someone sneeze? O_O

Dale

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Subject: Broken dependencies in EPEL - 2008-04-03
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Date: Thu, April 3, 2008 6:53 pm
To: limb@jcomserv.net
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Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:

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The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
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package: moodle - 1.8.2-1.el4.noarch from fedora-epel-testing-4-i386
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > There's the distutils mailing list [1]. Distutils is a Python module used for
> > packaging Python modules and applications, so I believe that's a very good place.
> >
>
> > I don't know of other interesting places... Stani, do you know of somewhere else?
> As I mentioned earlier:
> - comp.lang.python(.announce)
> - wxpython user list
>
> The question also pops up on the ubuntuforums, so it could be announced
> there as well.

Hi guys,

I'll put together an invite to the Open Week for distutils,
comp.lang.python.announce, and wxpython list then run it by one of you
guys in IRC and send it off as soon as possible.

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On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:32:59PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Thursday 03 April 2008, CaT wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote:
> > > a distro debate. I have used something similar as such with a
> > > gentoo mate.
> >
> > So how did mating Gentoo go for you?
>
> Do Gentoos mate? I thought they reproduced by spores.

of course. being a penguin, gentoos mate like any other penguin. They
just spend a lot of time tweaking the experience to get the best
performance... oh man this is going downhill fast!

A

On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:

> AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
> -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
> held in Belgrade, Serbia.

I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
user to choose to use non-free software within the structure of it's
packaging system. IMO that is more free than preventing people from
using the software they want.

.02

A

On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
> > free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his
> > talk he held in Belgrade, Serbia.
>
> I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
> assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
> user to choose to use non-free software within the structure of it's
> packaging system. IMO that is more free than preventing people from
> using the software they want.
>
> .02

Another interesting note, from the same RMS talk. Someone pointed out
that people had the freedom to choose so they should be able to choose
non-free if they want. His response? A person never has the choice to
be a slave.

Hal


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On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
<andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

> I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
> assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
> user to choose to use non-free software within the structure of it's
> packaging system. IMO that is more free than preventing people from
> using the software they want.

I had exactly the same view on that. But RMS is obviously a purist, he
dreams to banish all closed source from this world. Like Hal pointed
out, RMS believes that there should be no freedom when it comes to
choosing freedom itself.

Ivan


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