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Old 01-13-2010, 12:33 AM
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:19 PM
Ionut Biru
 
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On 01/12/2010 05:18 PM, Ionut Biru wrote:


cinelerra-cv - doesn't build with external ffmpeg, solution is to build
with the internal one(Daniel what do you think about that?)


done


moonlight - i didn't even touch on it since it doesn't build (need some
mono stuff at build) and Daniel Isenmann said that he will move in
extra. Maybe now is a good opportunity and upload it in testing


i'll remove it from repos when x264 is moved in extra.

The rebuilt is finish from now on, we accept bugs



i guess i can move them. anyone has any objection?

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Old 01-13-2010, 08:21 PM
Giovanni Scafora
 
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2010/1/13, Ionut Biru <biru.ionut@gmail.com>:
> i guess i can move them. anyone has any objection?

Go for it!!!


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Old 01-16-2010, 05:33 AM
Ed Greshko
 
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Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 09:59 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>
>> Stop suggesting to everyone to disable IPv6.
>>
>
> There really isn't a great point in having it enabled when your ISP and
> your ADSL modem/router doesn't support it. I'm not aware of *any*
> domestic networking equipment that supports it in Australia, and I'm not
> going to buy Cisco gear at ten times the price of ordinary gear.
>
> On an IPv4-only ISP, any IPv6-only resources will not be available to
> you, and doing your own IPv6-IPv4 substitution behind a IPv4-only
> network is pointless.
>
>
Can you expound on that last paragraph? Or, at least the first half of
the last paragraph. While my ISP is also IPv4 only, if I have (which I
do) an IPv4-->IPv6 tunnel I can access any IPv6 resource and that same
resource need not have a corresponding IPv4 address.

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Old 01-16-2010, 05:33 AM
Daniel J Griffiths
 
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The few remaining packages in the two following bugs can no longer be
built. Unless someone is able to provide patches to allow building them,
I propose that they be moved to unsupported.


http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13766
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9970
 
Old 01-16-2010, 05:39 AM
Allan McRae
 
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Daniel J Griffiths wrote:
The few remaining packages in the two following bugs can no longer be
built. Unless someone is able to provide patches to allow building them,
I propose that they be moved to unsupported.


http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13766
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9970



+1 from me. None of those packages seem too popular.
 
Old 01-16-2010, 07:35 AM
Tim
 
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Tim:
>> On an IPv4-only ISP, any IPv6-only resources will not be available to
>> you, and doing your own IPv6-IPv4 substitution behind a IPv4-only
>> network is pointless.

Ed Greshko:
> Can you expound on that last paragraph? Or, at least the first half
> of the last paragraph. While my ISP is also IPv4 only, if I have
> (which I do) an IPv4-->IPv6 tunnel I can access any IPv6 resource and
> that same resource need not have a corresponding IPv4 address.

If you're going to access an IPv6-only resource, through an IPv4-only
network (you, your ISP) you need some handler *outside* of your own
network. Seriously, there is no way for me to directly access anything
that's IPv6. While I might be able to resolve the name, there's no way
to connect to the IP. The only way for me to do it, whatever method you
profer, is to find out an equivalent IPv4 address to connect to.

If you can only do IPv4, what's the point of having anything to do with
IPv6? For resources available on both IPv4 and 6, if you're just going
to translate to IPv4, why not do just do IPv4 in the first place?

I don't write to this list in English, translate it to Spanish, then
translate it back to English again.

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Old 01-16-2010, 07:49 AM
Ed Greshko
 
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Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>
>>> On an IPv4-only ISP, any IPv6-only resources will not be available to
>>> you, and doing your own IPv6-IPv4 substitution behind a IPv4-only
>>> network is pointless.
>>>
>
> Ed Greshko:
>
>> Can you expound on that last paragraph? Or, at least the first half
>> of the last paragraph. While my ISP is also IPv4 only, if I have
>> (which I do) an IPv4-->IPv6 tunnel I can access any IPv6 resource and
>> that same resource need not have a corresponding IPv4 address.
>>
>
> If you're going to access an IPv6-only resource, through an IPv4-only
> network (you, your ISP) you need some handler *outside* of your own
> network. Seriously, there is no way for me to directly access anything
> that's IPv6. While I might be able to resolve the name, there's no way
> to connect to the IP. The only way for me to do it, whatever method you
> profer, is to find out an equivalent IPv4 address to connect to.
>
???

Assume a website is on a IPv6 backbone and has this address
2001:4860:c004::68. Assume also that it doesn't have an IPv4 address.
Are you saying there is no way for you to connect to it?

My ISP is a pure IPv4 ISP. My ADSL modem doesn't know a thing about
IPv6. Yet....

[egreshko@f12 ~]$ ping6 2001:4860:c004::68
PING 2001:4860:c004::68(2001:4860:c004::68) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2001:4860:c004::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=405 ms
64 bytes from 2001:4860:c004::68: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=378 ms

I've got....

he-ipv6 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
inet6 addr: 2001:470:1f04:735::2/64 Scope:Global
inet6 addr: fe80::cb46:1b7a/128 Scope:Link

So, while I am tunneling IPv6 to a IPv4 host that is connected to the
IPv6 backbone I am (I feel) effectively using only IPv6 to connect to
that host.
> If you can only do IPv4, what's the point of having anything to do with
> IPv6? For resources available on both IPv4 and 6, if you're just going
> to translate to IPv4, why not do just do IPv4 in the first place?
>
That would be a true statement. But not how I read that sentence.
> I don't write to this list in English, translate it to Spanish, then
> translate it back to English again.
>
>
But, a native Spanish speaker would probably think of their question in
Spanish, write it in English to the list, and then take the answer and
resolve their issue in their mind in Spanish.

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Old 01-16-2010, 10:55 AM
Andrea Scarpino
 
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2010/1/16 Daniel J Griffiths <ghost1227@archlinux.us>:
> The few remaining packages in the two following bugs can no longer be built.
> Unless someone is able to provide patches to allow building them, I propose
> that they be moved to unsupported.
>
> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13766
> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9970
>
I agree too.

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Old 01-16-2010, 12:58 PM
Heiko Baums
 
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Am Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:39:57 +1000
schrieb Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org>:

> Daniel J Griffiths wrote:
> > The few remaining packages in the two following bugs can no longer
> > be built. Unless someone is able to provide patches to allow
> > building them, I propose that they be moved to unsupported.
> >
> > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13766
> > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9970
> >
>
> +1 from me. None of those packages seem too popular.

I don't think that fcron is so unpopular. See the discussions about cron
in arch-dev-public and arch-general. It shouldn't be removed from
[community].

Greetings,
Heiko
 

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