On 30/10/2009, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The package 'llvm' is an orphaned [communuity] package. I'd like to request
> that it me moved to the AUR so I can maintain it (I have an update and
> overhaul ready) and I can also create a 'clang' package for it. (split
> package for llvm AND clang) Then it can be adopted by a TU if they want to
> bring it back into [community].
I vote for "move it on AUR"

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091030 Tomáš Chvátal wrote re:
> Title: KDE3 will be masked and removed from portage

Can someone explain -- or point to the relevant docs which explain --
how to use the KDE 3 overlay ? Perhaps this sb in the news announcement.

I've successfully installed most of KDE 4.3.1 ,
but without the desktop stuff, for which I have adopted Fluxbox.
I still have remnants of KDE 3.5.10 (details from my personal pkg list):

W 090501 kde-base/kdeartwork-kworldclock-3.5.10
090606 kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 [ 16 min ]
W 080924 kde-base/kmahjongg-3.5.10
W 080924 kde-base/ksokoban-3.5.10
W 090501 kde-base/kworldclock-3.5.10
080924 kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10 [for kmahjongg etc]

Kmahjongg 4 lacks the removed-tiles display (it's promised);
Ksokoban hasn't been ported to KDE 4 (someone's working on it);
Kworldclock shows local times around the globe,
which Marble should show, but doesn't (yet?).
Everything still works & nothing (3 & 4) interferes with anything else.

Hopefully, it won't be difficult for users to keep KDE 3 items
as long as they need them & don't cause any other problems.

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Duncan wrote:
... lots of the text trimmed ...
> Title: KDE3 will be masked and removed from portage
>
> [other headers unchanged, omit the radio on line]
>
> After multiple setbacks we have finally managed to stabilise KDE4 on
> both major desktop architectures (amd64 and x86), with other teams to
> follow.
>
> For this and other reasons as discussed at [1], those of you who still
> use KDE3 should be considering an upgrade in the near future.
>
> Effective immediately, KDE3 support is being dropped. This means that
> KDE3 ebuilds that clash with KDE4 or are broken are being removed.
>
> Unbroken KDE3 packages will be moved to a special overlay named kde3.
> This can be found in layman. Note that this overlay is going to be user
> maintained and WILL NOT BE DEVELOPER REVIEWED. [2]
>
> [rusty/apology and refs as-is]
>
> -------
> ,
... some text trimmed ...

Duncan thanks for hints and updates. I incorporated them and hopefully now the
news item is really nice :]

I also updated accordingly the gnk3.xml to match it :]

Cheers

Tomas

PS: i often complain that it is hell to chew through your mails because they
are so damn long, but this time it was definitely worth the time :] Seriously
thanks for help.
Title: KDE3 to be masked and removed from portage
Author: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
Author: Tomáš Chvátal <scarabeus@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-10-29
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: <kde-base/kdelibs-4

After multiple setbacks we have finally managed to stabilise KDE4 on
both major desktop architectures (amd64 and x86), with other teams to
follow.

For this and other reasons as discussed at [1], those of you who still
use KDE3 should be seriously considering an upgrade in the near future.

The KDE3 support is being dropped with immediate effect. This means
that ebuilds are dropping KDE3 support where they were broken, or
clashing with KDE4.

KDE3 packages will be moved to a special overlay named kde3.
This can be found in layman. [2] Note that this overlay is going to be
user maintained and will NOT be developer reviewed. [3]

[1] - http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-desktop/msg_a3e260bd0545cb4e763c81bc60f81de2.xml
[2] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/userguide.xml
[3] - http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde-sunset.git

Andrea Scarpino wrote:

On 30/10/2009, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:


Hello,

The package 'llvm' is an orphaned [communuity] package. I'd like to request
that it me moved to the AUR so I can maintain it (I have an update and
overhaul ready) and I can also create a 'clang' package for it. (split
package for llvm AND clang) Then it can be adopted by a TU if they want to
bring it back into [community].


I vote for "move it on AUR"


I believe it should be kept in [community] as it takes a considerable
amount of time to compile (around 10 minutes on a C2D 2.66 GHz, using
both cores).


I must say I know close to nothing about LLVM, but I'm willing to
maintain it and learn along the way. So, unless a more knowledgeable TU
shows interest, I'll adopt it in [community] and upload a new package
(based on Ranguvar's PKGBUILD) in the following weeks.

Hi I have reinstalled it and it again comes the problem when 73%
see attached file


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Tomáš Chvátal posted on Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:10:17 +0100 as excerpted:

> The KDE3 support is being dropped with immediate effect. This means that
> ebuilds are dropping KDE3 support where they were broken, or clashing
> with KDE4.

I'm still not quite happy with that, but I'm not quite sure what to do to
fix it, either. Not without my characteristic paragraphs of
explanation... =:^P

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Evangelos Foutras wrote:

Andrea Scarpino wrote:

On 30/10/2009, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:


Hello,

The package 'llvm' is an orphaned [communuity] package. I'd like to
request

that it me moved to the AUR so I can maintain it (I have an update and
overhaul ready) and I can also create a 'clang' package for it. (split
package for llvm AND clang) Then it can be adopted by a TU if they
want to

bring it back into [community].


I vote for "move it on AUR"


I believe it should be kept in [community] as it takes a considerable
amount of time to compile (around 10 minutes on a C2D 2.66 GHz, using
both cores).


I must say I know close to nothing about LLVM, but I'm willing to
maintain it and learn along the way. So, unless a more knowledgeable
TU shows interest, I'll adopt it in [community] and upload a new
package (based on Ranguvar's PKGBUILD) in the following weeks.


I've uploaded llvm 2.6-1 to [community-testing]. It doesn't include
clang, as I believe it should be built as a separate package. I think
it's possible to download both llvm and clang tarballs, place clang
inside the tools subdirectory and run `make install' from there. We'll
need to investigate this possibility.


Testing of the uploaded packages would be appreciated.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Evangelos Foutras <foutrelis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Evangelos Foutras wrote:
>>
>> Andrea Scarpino wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30/10/2009, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> The package 'llvm' is an orphaned [communuity] package. *I'd like to
>>>> request
>>>> that it me moved to the AUR so I can maintain it (I have an update and
>>>> overhaul ready) and I can also create a 'clang' package for it. (split
>>>> package for llvm AND clang) *Then it can be adopted by a TU if they want
>>>> to
>>>> bring it back into [community].
>>>>
>>>
>>> I vote for "move it on AUR"
>>
>> I believe it should be kept in [community] as it takes a considerable
>> amount of time to compile (around 10 minutes on a C2D 2.66 GHz, using both
>> cores).
>>
>> I must say I know close to nothing about LLVM, but I'm willing to maintain
>> it and learn along the way. So, unless a more knowledgeable TU shows
>> interest, I'll adopt it in [community] and upload a new package (based on
>> Ranguvar's PKGBUILD) in the following weeks.
>
> I've uploaded llvm 2.6-1 to [community-testing]. It doesn't include clang,
> as I believe it should be built as a separate package. I think it's possible
> to download both llvm and clang tarballs, place clang inside the tools
> subdirectory and run `make install' from there. We'll need to investigate
> this possibility.
>
> Testing of the uploaded packages would be appreciated.
>

I've found an error:

[ilcra1989@acheron ~]$ llvmc test.c
llvmc: Can't find program 'llvm-gcc'

That's LLVM trying to use the a frontend which you don't have.
You can install llvm-gcc to make it work, but I bet the AUR package isn't
compatible with our new LLVM yet, I'll work on fixing that for the AUR
maintainer once we finalize LLVM 2.6.

Here's a reworked LLVM/Clang PKGBUILD, with some improvements from
Evangelos's PKGBUILD (and a number of fixes to it, as well).

I removed the perl dep because perl's in [core], for example.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Imanol Celaya <
ornitorrincos@archlinux-es.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Evangelos Foutras <foutrelis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Evangelos Foutras wrote:
> >>
> >> Andrea Scarpino wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 30/10/2009, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> The package 'llvm' is an orphaned [communuity] package. I'd like to
> >>>> request
> >>>> that it me moved to the AUR so I can maintain it (I have an update and
> >>>> overhaul ready) and I can also create a 'clang' package for it. (split
> >>>> package for llvm AND clang) Then it can be adopted by a TU if they
> want
> >>>> to
> >>>> bring it back into [community].
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I vote for "move it on AUR"
> >>
> >> I believe it should be kept in [community] as it takes a considerable
> >> amount of time to compile (around 10 minutes on a C2D 2.66 GHz, using
> both
> >> cores).
> >>
> >> I must say I know close to nothing about LLVM, but I'm willing to
> maintain
> >> it and learn along the way. So, unless a more knowledgeable TU shows
> >> interest, I'll adopt it in [community] and upload a new package (based
> on
> >> Ranguvar's PKGBUILD) in the following weeks.
> >
> > I've uploaded llvm 2.6-1 to [community-testing]. It doesn't include
> clang,
> > as I believe it should be built as a separate package. I think it's
> possible
> > to download both llvm and clang tarballs, place clang inside the tools
> > subdirectory and run `make install' from there. We'll need to investigate
> > this possibility.
> >
> > Testing of the uploaded packages would be appreciated.
> >
>
> I've found an error:
>
> [ilcra1989@acheron ~]$ llvmc test.c
> llvmc: Can't find program 'llvm-gcc'
>

Ranguvar wrote:

That's LLVM trying to use the a frontend which you don't have.
You can install llvm-gcc to make it work, but I bet the AUR package isn't
compatible with our new LLVM yet, I'll work on fixing that for the AUR
maintainer once we finalize LLVM 2.6.

Here's a reworked LLVM/Clang PKGBUILD, with some improvements from
Evangelos's PKGBUILD (and a number of fixes to it, as well).

I removed the perl dep because perl's in [core], for example.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Imanol Celaya <
ornitorrincos@archlinux-es.org> wrote:



On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Evangelos Foutras <foutrelis@gmail.com>
wrote:


Evangelos Foutras wrote:


Andrea Scarpino wrote:


On 30/10/2009, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:



Hello,

The package 'llvm' is an orphaned [communuity] package. I'd like to
request
that it me moved to the AUR so I can maintain it (I have an update and
overhaul ready) and I can also create a 'clang' package for it. (split
package for llvm AND clang) Then it can be adopted by a TU if they


want


to
bring it back into [community].



I vote for "move it on AUR"


I believe it should be kept in [community] as it takes a considerable
amount of time to compile (around 10 minutes on a C2D 2.66 GHz, using


both


cores).

I must say I know close to nothing about LLVM, but I'm willing to


maintain


it and learn along the way. So, unless a more knowledgeable TU shows
interest, I'll adopt it in [community] and upload a new package (based


on


Ranguvar's PKGBUILD) in the following weeks.


I've uploaded llvm 2.6-1 to [community-testing]. It doesn't include


clang,


as I believe it should be built as a separate package. I think it's


possible


to download both llvm and clang tarballs, place clang inside the tools
subdirectory and run `make install' from there. We'll need to investigate
this possibility.

Testing of the uploaded packages would be appreciated.



I've found an error:

[ilcra1989@acheron ~]$ llvmc test.c
llvmc: Can't find program 'llvm-gcc'




Let's continue the discussion on the related report on the bug tracker.

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16920