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Ron Johnson wrote:
| On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
|> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
<snip>
|>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
|> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A "pick
|> two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The
|> point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a
|> corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one,
|> if you ask me.
|
| Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
| time...

No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the only truly
GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for the uneducated masses,
who don't care about being right. We are smarter and better than they are,
because we choose Debian - all hail the mighty Debian!"

That would be elitist.

Regards,
Chris
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On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
> |> <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> |>
> |> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A
> |> "pick two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please
> |> everyone. The point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's
> |> goals and a corresponding target group was gathered around them.
> |> And a good one, if you ask me.
> |
> | Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
> | time...
>
> No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the
> only truly GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for
> the uneducated masses, who don't care about being right. We are
> smarter and better than they are, because we choose Debian - all hail
> the mighty Debian!"

According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him give
last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it includes
non-free software.

I'm not saying I agree with him on this, but it is his opinion that
there are only a few truly free distros out there. He named them and
I've forgotten them, but they were not any names I recognized or had
heard of before and I'm familiar with at least the top 25-50 names.

Hal


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On 04/03/08 19:19, Chris Walters wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> |> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A "pick
> |> two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The
> |> point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a
> |> corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one,
> |> if you ask me.
> |
> | Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
> | time...
>
> No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the
> only truly
> GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for the uneducated
> masses,
> who don't care about being right. We are smarter and better than they are,
> because we choose Debian - all hail the mighty Debian!"
>
> That would be elitist.

So if I chant that 24 times before bed every night and 24 more times
when I wake up, that's a bad thing???

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On 04/04/2008, Chris Walters <cjw2004d@comcast.net> wrote:
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Ron Johnson wrote:
| On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
|> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>
|>> *That smells of elitism. *(Not that I mind...)
|> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A "pick
|> two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please everyone. The

|> point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's goals and a
|> corresponding target group was gathered around them. And a good one,
|> if you ask me.
|
| Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the

| time...

No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the only truly
GNU/Linux distribution worth having. *All others are for the uneducated masses,
who don't care about being right. *We are smarter and better than they are,

because we choose Debian - all hail the mighty Debian!"

That would be elitist.
**That*could*also be*a*sarcastic*interlude in a*distro*debate.*I*have*used*something*similar*as* such*with*a*gentoo*mate.


cheers,
Owen.


Regards,
Chris
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On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote:
> a distro debate. I have used something similar as such with a gentoo mate.

So how did mating Gentoo go for you?

cat


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Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> said:
> According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him
> give last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it
> includes non-free software.
>
> I'm not saying I agree with him on this, but it is his opinion that
> there are only a few truly free distros out there. He named them and
> I've forgotten them, but they were not any names I recognized or had
> heard of before and I'm familiar with at least the top 25-50 names.
>
> Hal

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/gobuntu
Gobuntu is a GNU/Linux operating system, derived from Ubuntu, that
endeavors to adhere to the Free Software Foundation's four freedoms and
intends to provide a base for other free software platforms to build
upon with minimal modification required. It does this by only including
open-source non-restricted software. This means there will be no
firmware, drivers, applications, or content included in Gobuntu that
does not include the full source or whose license does not provide the
right to use, study, modify, and redistribute the body of work.

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On Thursday 03 April 2008, CaT wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Owen Townend wrote:
> > a distro debate. I have used something similar as such with a
> > gentoo mate.
>
> So how did mating Gentoo go for you?

Do Gentoos mate? I thought they reproduced by spores.

Hal


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On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:53 +0800, Quentin So wrote:
>

yes.

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Am Freitag, 4. April 2008 schrieb ext Iain Buchanan:

> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:53 +0800, Quentin So wrote:
>
> yes.

No, I don't think so ;-)

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