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>
> everything went perfectly
>
> Now the nvidia.ko kernel mismatch message is gone at boot
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>
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and now kuser is working perfectly...didn't see any references to kde or utilities go by

How did that happen?

However ksnapshot/region is still not working requiring a logout/login

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Dear All,



How can we add a new one ( NIC ) or change another NIC by using command
line ?



Thanks !



Edward.



-------- Original Message --------



Subject:
FC9 Network Config


Date:
Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:19:45 +0800


From:
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Dear All,

For text mode....
How can we config the setting of Networking ?

I can modify the ifcfg-ethxxx files, but can't ti find out the
modprobe.conf file...

Any more help ?

Thanks !

Edward.

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Hello to you,



[root@svr1 ~]# ifconfig eth0

eth0***** Link encap:Ethernet* HWaddr 00:1E:8C:7E:2F:58

********* inet addr:192.168.0.254* Bcast:192.168.0.255*
Mask:255.255.255.0

********* inet6 addr: fe80::21e:8cff:fe7e:2f58/64 Scope:Link

********* UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST* MTU:1500* Metric:1

********* RX packets:5013 errors:0 dropped:2641364527 overruns:0 frame:0

********* TX packets:4704 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0

********* collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000

********* RX bytes:2614385 (2.4 MiB)* TX bytes:287837 (281.0 KiB)

********* Interrupt:16 Base address:0x4000



[root@svr1 ~]# mii-tool

eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-HD, link ok

eth1: no link

eth2: no link

[root@svr1 ~]# lspci | grep Eth

01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

01:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)

[root@svr1 ~]#



for ifcfg-eth0: is using Realtek RTL8169D chip ( r8169 driver )

for ifcfg-eth1: is using Realtek RTL8139C chip ( 8139too driver )

for ifcfg-eth2: is using Realtek RTL8139D chip ( 8139too driver )



Due to the udev change ( swap ) the name of NIC devices, so the eth1
and eth2 is no link ( cable disconnect )...



BTW, If I need to do the network job / task ( add a new one NIC or
replace NIC ), so FC8 or FC9 System is suitable for it ?



Thank !



Edward.



Olteanu Eugen wrote:


What NIC is that?



Show me the output of:



ifconfig eth2

mii-tool

lspci* | grep Eth









On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:01 PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:



Hello,



Sorry,



I have just created and setup another new NIC as the following :



/etc/modprobe.conf

And

/etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf



Then reboot / run "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network" to restart



BUT :




[root@svr1 ~]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart

Shutting down interface eth0:***************************** [* OK* ]

Shutting down interface eth1:***************************** [* OK* ]

Shutting down loopback interface:************************* [* OK* ]

Bringing up loopback interface:*************************** [* OK* ]

Bringing up interface eth0:******************************* [* OK* ]

Bringing up interface eth1:******************************* [* OK* ]

[root@svr1 ~]#




So, how about the eth2 ?



Does the system cam't ( don't ) load the driver ( module ) of eth2 (
another PCI ) ?



Any more help ?





Thanks



Edward.



Olteanu Eugen wrote:


Ok you dont seem to have any problem with your
modules..so you dont need to modify anything in modprobe.conf. This
means your network is fine..



The ntsysv tools shows a list of services that are off or on at a
normal reboot. Depending on what you use that computer for you might
have more servers "on".



Here are the ones that I have "on":



acpid

avahi-daemon

cpuspeed

crond

gpm

haldaemon

httpd

iptables

irqbalance

mdmonitor

messagebus

mysqld

network

sshd

syslog-ng

sysstat

xinetd



Also you should know that if you have a graphical machine (kde/gnome)
then you are in lvl 5. If you boot in text mode you are in lvl 3.

So I have all those services on in lvl 5. If you switch to lvl 3 there
might be others on.







On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:


Hello,



Sorry,

My means is "What service must be started-up by using ntsysv command
line ?"

Then the tool of "system-config-network" is good for work ?



BTW:

[root@svr1 ~]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart

Shutting down interface eth0:***************************** [* OK* ]

Shutting down interface eth1:***************************** [* OK* ]

Shutting down loopback interface:************************* [* OK* ]

Bringing up loopback interface:*************************** [* OK* ]

Bringing up interface eth0:******************************* [* OK* ]

Bringing up interface eth1:******************************* [* OK* ]

[root@svr1 ~]#





Thanks.



Edward.



Olteanu Eugen wrote:


You dont need to stop anything..** What does :
/etc/init.d/network start say?



On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:12 PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:


Hello,



Would you mind to tell me may be I have stop which startup services by
ntsysv ?

Then the system-config-network can't be good for work ?





Thanks !



Edward.



Olteanu Eugen wrote:




Probably you broke smth in* there.. try to remove those 2 packets and
then install them again* via yum.









On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:


Hello,



Just running the tools :



Error in sys.excepthook:

*********************** Traceback (most recent call last):

************************************************** ********* File
"/usr/sbin/system-config-network-tui", line 120, in <lambda>

************************************************ PRG_NAME, PRG_VERSION)

************************************************** **********************
File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/exception.py", line
332, in handleException

********* import gtk

********************* File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 79, in
<module>

****************************** _init()

*************************************** File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 67, in
_init

********************************************* _gtk.init_check()

************************************************** ************
RuntimeError: could not open display



****************** Original exception was:

***************************************** Traceback (most recent call
last):

************************************************** ***************************
File "/usr/sbin/system-config-network-tui", line 277, in <module>

************************************************** ****************
plist = getProfileList()

************ File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line
651, in getProfileList

******************************** __PFList.load()

************************************************* File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line
88, in load

************************************************** ********
self.loadprof(pr, profdir)

********************** File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line
101, in loadprof

************************************ devicelist =
NCDeviceList.getDeviceList()

************************************************** *****************************
File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCDeviceList.py",
line 318, in getDeviceList

***************** __DVList.load()

********************************** File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCDeviceList.py", line 78,
in load

****************************************** hwlist =
NCHardwareList.getHardwareList()

***** File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCHardwareList.py", line
759, in getHardwareList

*************************** __HWList.load()

******************************************** File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCHardwareList.py", line
603, in load

************************************************** *****
self.updateFromSystem()

************************************************** ******************************
File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCHardwareList.py",
line 483, in updateFromSystem

*********************** self.updateFromHal(hdellist)

************************************************** *** File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCHardwareList.py", line
447, in updateFromHal

************************************************** ***********************
hal = NCBackendHal.NCBackendHal()

**************************** File
"/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCBackendHal.py", line 30,
in __init__

**************************************** self._dbusBus =
dbus.SystemBus()

************************************************** ************************
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 200, in
__new__

************************************************** ***********************
private=private)

*********** File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line
106, in __new__

********** bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type,
mainloop=mainloop)

************************************************** ****************************
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125, in
__new__

************************************************** *************************
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)

************************************************** ***
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound:
Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such
file or directory

************************************************** * [root@svr1 ~]#



And the tools seem hang....



Any solution for fixing this problems ?





Thanks !



Edward.



Olteanu Eugen wrote:


Launch : system-config-network-tui



On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:57
PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:


Hello,



Just checked the default system :



[root@svr1 ~]# rpm -qa | grep "system-config-network"

system-config-network-tui-1.5.7-1.fc9.noarch

system-config-network-1.5.7-1.fc9.noarch

[root@svr1 ~]#



So, what else I can do it ?



Thanks



Edward





Olteanu Eugen wrote:


yum install
system-config-network.noarch
system-config-network-tui.noarch



Then launch system-config-network-tui.





On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at
1:46
PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:



Timothy Murphy wrote:


edwardspl@ita.org.mo wrote:



After the installation of FC9...
I can't running the tool of "system-config-network" for configuring the
network setting...


...


For text mode....
How can we config the setting of Networking ?

I can modify the ifcfg-ethxxx files, but can't ti find out the
modprobe.conf file...

Any more help ?


I'm no expert, but I doubt if you are giving enough information
for any expert to help.
Eg are you running NetworkManager
("chkconfig --list | grep -i net")
What do you mean by "I cannot run system-config-network"?
What actually happens if you do try to run it?
Etc



Hello,



[root@svr1 ~]# chkconfig --list | grep -i net

NetworkManager* 0ff** 1ff** 2n*** 3n*** 4n*** 5n*** 6n

netconsole***** 0ff** 1ff** 2ff** 3n*** 4ff** 5ff** 6n

netfs********** 0ff** 1ff** 2ff** 3ff** 4n*** 5n*** 6ff

netplugd******* 0ff** 1ff** 2ff** 3ff** 4ff** 5ff** 6ff

network******** 0ff** 1ff** 2ff** 3n*** 4ff** 5ff** 6n

[root@svr1 ~]#



So, which services musted be started up and which packages must be
installed, then we can use system-config-network ?



Thanks !



Edward.




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On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 09:30 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> Why forward publicly accessibly messages from one list to another
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Seconded! It's an annoying pain getting *unnecessary* duplicates. Let
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With the logic behind the "we want to inform more users" mentality, why
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It's about time this list has a regular FAQ auto-posted. You could
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Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 09:30 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>
>> Why forward publicly accessibly messages from one list to another
>> within the same community?
>>
>
> Seconded! It's an annoying pain getting *unnecessary* duplicates. Let
> those who want to know about it, join the announce list. Let those who
> don't bother to find out about the lists do without. You may as well
> ditch the announce list if you're going to duplicate every post on this
> one.
>
> With the logic behind the "we want to inform more users" mentality, why
> not forward the developer list to this list, too? And all the other
> lists...
>
> It's about time this list has a regular FAQ auto-posted. You could
> include things like links to how to use the mailing list, pointers to
> prepared answers on the wiki to over-asked FAQs, and if you want more
> information, join the announce list.
>
>
Let's see.... There were total of 18 messages posted to the Announce
list in the month of September. I think maybe 3~5 were forwarded to
this list....and that number seems to be only due to the intrusion.
Yeah, that increase in network traffic really bothers me. It just has
to be stomped out. :-) :-)


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Around 12:11pm on Thursday, October 02, 2008 (UK time), Ed Greshko scrawled:

> Let's see.... There were total of 18 messages posted to the Announce
> list in the month of September. I think maybe 3~5 were forwarded to
> this list....and that number seems to be only due to the intrusion.
> Yeah, that increase in network traffic really bothers me. It just has
> to be stomped out. :-) :-)

Well I am with the people who find this anoying. Not because it happens
with lots of messages, but because getting a message twice is just
annoying.

The low quantity of messages on the Announce list can just goes to show
why anyone who has an interest in this should be able to subscribe to
the list without being swamped.

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Hello to you,

Would you mind to help as the following questions ?

1, How to modify /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, then prevent
the udev service to change ( rename / swap ) the name of device ( eg :
eth?? ) ?

# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
# program run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.

# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rule written by
anaconda)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="10:e0:8c:39:8f:48", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",
NAME="eth2"
# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rule written by
anaconda)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:02:44:6c:66:49", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",
NAME="eth1"
# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
Ethernet controller (rule written by anaconda)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1e:8c:7e:2f:58", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",
NAME="eth0"

2, After FC9 version, how to modify ( update ) the NIC config ( driver )
in text mode ?
( eg : Due to the current NIC just bad, so replace with another new one,
or add one more NIC for controling another network segment )

3, During the installation of FC, without which items, then the services
of NetworkManager won't be installed ?

Thanks

Edward.

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Steve Searle wrote:
> Around 12:11pm on Thursday, October 02, 2008 (UK time), Ed Greshko scrawled:
>
>
>> Let's see.... There were total of 18 messages posted to the Announce
>> list in the month of September. I think maybe 3~5 were forwarded to
>> this list....and that number seems to be only due to the intrusion.
>> Yeah, that increase in network traffic really bothers me. It just has
>> to be stomped out. :-) :-)
>>
>
> Well I am with the people who find this anoying. Not because it happens
> with lots of messages, but because getting a message twice is just
> annoying.
>
Yeah, every once in a while my dad will forward an email with some cute
animal on it that I'm sure he sent to me a week or so ago...maybe
longer. It annoys me so much I can hardly find the delete key. :-) :-)
> The low quantity of messages on the Announce list can just goes to show
> why anyone who has an interest in this should be able to subscribe to
> the list without being swamped.
>
>
Yeah, let's shoot the next person that dares send out an announcement
that appears on some other list that everyone should also subscribe to.
Heck, if those types aren't smart or informed enough to search out the
lists and inform themselves they deserve to be left in the dark. :-)


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Olteanu Eugen wrote:


I dont get it! Why would udev rename/change the name
of swap???

As for the nics.. check if there is any interrupt on your main board.
cat /proc/interrupts



How many NICs with your motherboard ?



On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:36 PM, <edwardspl@ita.org.mo>
wrote:

Hello
to you,



Would you mind to help as the following questions ?



1, How to modify /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, then prevent

the udev service to change ( rename / swap ) the name of device ( eg :

eth?? ) ?



# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules

# program run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file.

#

# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.



# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rule written by

anaconda)

SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION="" DRIVERS=="?*",

ATTR{address}=="10:e0:8c:39:8f:48", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",

NAME="eth2"

# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rule written by

anaconda)

SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION="" DRIVERS=="?*",

ATTR{address}=="00:02:44:6c:66:49", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",

NAME="eth1"

# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B
PCI Express Gigabit


Ethernet controller (rule written by anaconda)

SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION="" DRIVERS=="?*",

ATTR{address}=="00:1e:8c:7e:2f:58", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*",

NAME="eth0"



2, After FC9 version, how to modify ( update ) the NIC config ( driver )

in text mode ?

( eg : Due to the current NIC just bad, so replace with another new one,

or add one more NIC for controling another network segment )



3, During the installation of FC, without which items, then the services

of NetworkManager won't be installed ?



Thanks



Edward.







For the point of 2 and 3, any suggestion / solution for me ?



Thanks !



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On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 19:55 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 09:30 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > Why forward publicly accessibly messages from one list to another
> > within the same community?
>
> Seconded! It's an annoying pain getting *unnecessary* duplicates. Let
> those who want to know about it, join the announce list. Let those who
> don't bother to find out about the lists do without.

So if you don't know about the lists you'll never find out about them? I
know they are on the Fedora intro page, but does anyone read that?

> You may as well
> ditch the announce list if you're going to duplicate every post on this
> one.

I haven't noticed a duplicate of every fedora-announce message on this
list. In fact there are relatively few and I'd say an announcement of a
new Fedora release is probably of interest to most people here.

It would be annoying if a lot of people did this of course. Possibly the
best compromise would be to have announcements of new releases (and
major things like the recent repo problem) sent here by the announcer as
a matter of course, but this is something on which rational people are
not going to agree on.

> With the logic behind the "we want to inform more users" mentality, why
> not forward the developer list to this list, too? And all the other
> lists...

See above.

> It's about time this list has a regular FAQ auto-posted. You could
> include things like links to how to use the mailing list, pointers to
> prepared answers on the wiki to over-asked FAQs, and if you want more
> information, join the announce list.

Energetically seconded :-)

poc

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