On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 21.03.2010, 02:04 -0400 schrieb Marcel Rieux:
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Christoph Wickert
>> <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Am Samstag, den 20.03.2010, 01:30 -0400 schrieb Marcel Rieux:
>>
>> >> (1) The only option available in my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P's BIOS
>> >> offering only options for entering passwords, for exemple.
>> >
>> > Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to tell us. What does your
>> > BIOS have to do with the OS?
>>
>> See my answer to charles zeitler. I suppose he'd be more apt then me
>> to answer this question.
>
> No he's not. As you were the one who claimed there is a connection
> between BIOS and OS you should be able to answer that. It was not
> Charles who stated this.
He stated that there is an OpenBIOS*project. This project, as you might know, has been set up because *BIOSes are proprietary hardware and they must be studied by Linux developers in order to work properly with Linux. So, it seems there is a relation between Linux and BIOSes.
For one, I*know that when I reset my BIOS, all options are available. I*tehn boot Linux, reboot,:no more options. After I boot now, I see "Verifying DMI*pool data AMD*data change Update new data to DMI" It*might or might not be related to my problem. I*have no idea.
At the time I bought the mobo, there wasn't too much information on it on the net. It was just out on the American market. I bought it because it was fairly cheap and used DDR3 memory. I*must have been and probably still is a rather popular mobo.
Now, if you want to brawl about this, in my book, you'll join the Tim/White/Gresko club.
>> >> (2) For instance, "New File" entering the clipboard every time a new
>> >> file is created.
>>
>> > I cannot reproduce this bug here
>>
>> Try the GNOME desktop.
>
> I did try nautilus which is "the GNOME desktop".
>
>> , could you explain a little more in
>> > detail? I created a new file in nautilus, thunar and pcmanfm and never
>> > had "New File" in my paste buffer. Do you have a cliboard manager
>> > running, preferably parcellite
>>
>> I installed parcellite.
>
> There you go, I already guessed that and explained why the behavior is
> normal then.
>
>> When you have more than a screenful of
>> entries, you have to scroll up the list to the first entry. This
>> disqualifies parcelite for me.
>
> So where is your bug report or feature request.
Oh, I*see I'm the first one in the Whole Wide World to discover this bug! Isn't it fantastic?*Of course, since you only have 256 MB*of RAM, you never tried it yourself
You never thought "The hell with it, this is just another Linux quick hack, I'll just use a screenful of entries."
And, of course, the developer himself never tried 100 -- or is it 85? -- entries to see if his software worked?*Or maybe you think that it just worked fine on his very special hardware? *Glipper, which had a similar problem, worked fine on its developer's hardware, also. Sure!
Well, it seems somebody finally decided to remove this crapware from the "market":
yum search klipper
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
======== Matched: klipper ==========
kdebase-workspace.x86_64 : K Desktop Environment - Workspace
yum search glipper
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Warning: No matches found for: glipper
No Matches found
I*believe it was also causing crashes.
With clipman there were also problems. I've tried one after another. So much fun!
That's the problem with Linux on the desktop. There are tens of window managers, clipboard utilities, file managers, email clients and so on, but nothing works perfectly. Now, as I*explained, -- but you skipped over this, I suppose -- industry is getting involved in open source. Nokia bought Trolltech, Intel joined forces with Nokia, Google is offering the Chrome browser, soon ChromeOS, and so on, Shuttleworth has hired developers for Ubuntu.
IOW, developers are now paid not only to develop /industrial/ Linux -- the kernel, databases and so on --, they are now paid to develop desktop Linux. They getting paid by companies, and they'll soon get paid writing applications for their /ecosystem/: ChromeOS, Android, Meego, iUbuntu, etc. *And this is only the beginning of a list that will grow from year to year.
Developers will begin writing freelance for the ecosystem and, if they're doing good, they'll be hired by the company... though they might prefer to freelance. If you've never seen a meritocracy in action, check this one. Companies won't give a shit whether the developer is in America, India or China, they'll send a check.
The most likely end result will be lowering salaries in America, rising them /a little/ in developing countries. The good fortune of a few developers will make the headlines and sustain the dream of easy money but, generally, it's going to be hard work to get a good pay. (My 2¢ on this. Not something I wish to discuss.)
Who's going to remain to work for free for the Linux distributions and the Linux software development projects? Already, it seems a "new shift"*has begun working at some projects whose skill's seem more limited.
KDE 4 was supposed to be so much more user friendly than KDE*3. At iteration 4, it's, IMO. still very far in terms of user-friendliness. I already noted some problems in this thread, but they're all over the place.
For instance, trying to have a readable URL*window in Firefox, I set all the fonts to 14. The URL*was still at ~11. In*GNOME, it's right under "Application font", first in the list. I*didn't study KDE4 much, but I already could go on forever on this. You know, how ridiculous can you get, when you use slide bars on the main menus. Why not just a down arrow at the bottom of the menu, if you don't see what you want?*(I*must admit my icons must be set quite big, but it's ludicrous just the same.)
I*must say I fear too for next version of GNOME.
The BIG problem with open source is that developers are always right. Users must fill zany bug reports, RTFM, Google their way through thousands of pages of, sometimes dead wrong, technical mumbo jumbo. (Cf. my comments installing/removing Nvidia drivers.) *
In OS*X, the user is central: if he doesn't get it at first, there's a problem. Hence, results are not the same. OK, I'm not a developer, I'm bashing and act as if I was Steve Jobs. Well, to tell you the truth, I'd really like somebody to do Steve Jobs' job here. Otherwise, Linux certainly won't go where OS*X and ChromeOS are headed. I can smell trash can odors.
> As I cannot comment on the rest of your mail because I don't use KDE,
> please let me ask you again: Where are your feature requests, bug
> reports or where is your feedback on updates. You seem to complaining a
> lot, but this is not how Linux or Fedora work. A community based project
> depends on what the community does
I've always been a really weird guy, you see, and it's no different here. I*believe I work a lot in answering you. I'm doing what is called a case study... from the outside, unfortunately. In the industry, people who do case studies are getting a much better pay than developers.
While I'm spending hours on end answering a bunch of brawlers, I*know some Red Hat employees who say Red Hat doesn't know where it's headed. And it seems that, whatever happens, they won't try expressing their ideas. Is it that they seem to fear getting involved *or that they have a hard time outputting something coherent, I*have no idea. (You know how geeks are: they pretend they must run everything, but can't come up with a plan. That's why Jobs does so good running Apple!)
Nonetheless, I'm sure some Red Hat employees have an opinion or two that they can put together. Is the climate so rotten at Red Hat's that nobody dares speak openly? Ok, this is not a developers' forum, but the matter at hand is not technical, it's administrative. How come nobody from Red Hat joins the discussion with users and give a little bit more information than we got from Jonathan Corbet's article? Will all information on Red Hat have to come from outsiders?
If I can write something about Red Hat's development in a new technological context, with the insight employees, administrators, whoever, have, it should be possible to go further. They don't have to disclose insiders secrets or suggest to fire some boss *on the spot. We're talking about starting a discussion. You know, evolving. Maybe they don't like my "aggressive" approach? Nothing stops them from starting another thread.
The deafening silence I*was talking about in another thread is not only deafening, it's frightening. I don't see how a company can be headed anywhere if it doesn't develop a vision together with its employees.
Supper time. Reread fast.
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