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Old 02-26-2010, 11:25 PM
Marcel Rieux
 
Default Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@iastate.edu> wrote:

>> Maybe if I could redirect the system to the right copy of Firefox, it
>> would solve all problems? How is this done?
>
> Just checking: did you quit your firefox and restart after the update?
> This may solve most of your problems, if not.

There was a kernel update and I reboot every day anyways.

>> I must admit I've seen the little red rat appear quite often lately in
>> the top panel. I try not to care too much about it, but it seems there
>> are consequences.
>
> Little red rat? I don't have anything of that sort here: I confess I am
> using the LXDE spin, though.

I believe this "little red hat" appears when you install software to
report kernel... instabilities or something like that.

I*must admit I never sent those reports:

1st:*Like, from "all" the answers I've received so far, for most
people here, it would look like a bad joke.

2nd: Before sending a report, you are warned that you are sending
sensitive data on an unencrypted connection. I*thought I'd refrain.

>> I'll have to check the BIOS*<=> CMOS*option to reload the defaults. Or
>> I'll just remove the battery.
>
> What exactly is this system and its specs?

It's an Award BIOS, but I can't get any more specs. (1994 - 2009). I
don't believe it has anything to do with the version of this BIOS. It
might take some work, but the BIOS/CMOS can be hacked on the present
Fedora 12.
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Old 02-27-2010, 02:07 AM
Ranjan Maitra
 
Default Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:25:17 -0500 Marcel Rieux <m.z.rieux@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
> >> Maybe if I could redirect the system to the right copy of Firefox, it
> >> would solve all problems? How is this done?
> >
> > Just checking: did you quit your firefox and restart after the update?
> > This may solve most of your problems, if not.
>
> There was a kernel update and I reboot every day anyways.

Reboot every day? Hmmmm....that sounds like Windozy....anyway, what you
are seeing can happen if firefox is not restarted: I am presuming you
did quit firefox and restart after the update.

>
> >> I must admit I've seen the little red rat appear quite often lately in
> >> the top panel. I try not to care too much about it, but it seems there
> >> are consequences.
> >
> > Little red rat? I don't have anything of that sort here: I confess I am
> > using the LXDE spin, though.
>
> I believe this "little red hat" appears when you install software to
> report kernel... instabilities or something like that.

I see: this is the abrt tool. It is a pain and a joke. I have been
tempted to get rid of it.

>
> I*must admit I never sent those reports:
>
> 1st:*Like, from "all" the answers I've received so far, for most
> people here, it would look like a bad joke.
>
> 2nd: Before sending a report, you are warned that you are sending
> sensitive data on an unencrypted connection. I*thought I'd refrain.

It downloads hundreds of debuginfo rpms first, regardless of whether
you use it or not, from what it seems.

> >> I'll have to check the BIOS*<=> CMOS*option to reload the defaults. Or
> >> I'll just remove the battery.
> >
> > What exactly is this system and its specs?
>
> It's an Award BIOS, but I can't get any more specs. (1994 - 2009). I
> don't believe it has anything to do with the version of this BIOS. It
> might take some work, but the BIOS/CMOS can be hacked on the present
> Fedora 12.

I meant specs of the system. That is typically most helpful to diagnose
a problem, if any.

Ranjan


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Old 02-27-2010, 03:54 PM
Marcel Rieux
 
Default Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@iastate.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:25:17 -0500 Marcel Rieux <m.z.rieux@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@iastate.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >> Maybe if I could redirect the system to the right copy of Firefox, it
>> >> would solve all problems? How is this done?
>> >
>> > Just checking: did you quit your firefox and restart after the update?
>> > This may solve most of your problems, if not.
>>
>> There was a kernel update and I reboot every day anyways.
>
> Reboot every day? Hmmmm....that sounds like Windozy....anyway, what you
> are seeing can happen if firefox is not restarted: I am presuming you
> did quit firefox and restart after the update.

I*looks like somebody running a computer in Canada and not caring
about heat dissipation in the room.

To make the story long, in reality, I've had the problem of grayed out
options for maybe 3 months and not much time and incentive to look
into the problem. Since I have a fairly noisy fan ($60 casing
including PSU) and I'm just keeping an eye open for decent one that
won't cost one third the price of the casing, I shut down the computer
at night.

>> >> I must admit I've seen the little red rat appear quite often lately in
>> >> the top panel. I try not to care too much about it, but it seems there
>> >> are consequences.
>> >
>> > Little red rat? I don't have anything of that sort here: I confess I am
>> > using the LXDE spin, though.
>>
>> I believe this "little red hat" appears when you install software to
>> report kernel... instabilities or something like that.
>
> I see: this is the abrt tool. It is a pain and a joke. I have been
> tempted to get rid of it.

I*suppose you're a SELinux Troubleshooter man *But some pretend the
abrt tool does a better job:

"I’m a big fan of the new Abrt tool which can produce and file
detailed information for developers in a Bugzilla bug with just a few
clicks, and also the improvements to the SELinux Troubleshooter, which
do essentially the same thing."

http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?tag=fedora-12

As for myself, I, of course, have no idea.

>> I*must admit I never sent those reports:
>>
>> 1st:*Like, from "all" the answers I've received so far, for most
>> people here, it would look like a bad joke.
>>
>> 2nd: Before sending a report, you are warned that you are sending
>> sensitive data on an unencrypted connection. I*thought I'd refrain.
>
> It downloads hundreds of debuginfo rpms first, regardless of whether
> you use it or not, from what it seems.

This is certainly a nightmare!

> I meant specs of the system. That is typically most helpful to diagnose
> a problem, if any.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductI D=3096&ProductName=GA-MA770T-UD3P

The CPU*is an AMD*Phenom II*X3.

Thanks for your help. I was far from sure I'd get some on this one.
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:32 PM
Marcel Rieux
 
Default Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

Hi Ranjan!

If you ever come up with a suggestion or other info requests, don't
despair if I don't answer. I'm switching provider and might be offline
for a few days.
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