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Old 02-21-2010, 07:36 PM
"n2xssvv.g02gfr12930"
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But
it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I
create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required?

JB

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Old 02-21-2010, 07:43 PM
Bruno Wolff III
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:36:09 +0000,
"n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" <n2xssvv.g02gfr12930@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But
> it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I
> create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required?

I haven't gotten around to filing a bug about this since I wasn't sure
if it was intentional or not, but you can use:
modprobe floppy
to create /dev/fd0 and be able to use your floppy drive.
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:23 PM
Ralph Blach
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

What is a floppy drive???

Well seriously, I think their are better options now.

I used an 8 inch floppy a long time ago

Chip

n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
>
> I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But
> it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I
> create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required?
>
> JB
>

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Old 02-21-2010, 09:29 PM
Bruno Wolff III
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 17:23:32 -0500,
Ralph Blach <rcblach@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is a floppy drive???
>
> Well seriously, I think their are better options now.

I use a couple of laptops every summer that the easy ways to share data
with my other computers is with floppies. For backing them up where I
use them (in case someone mistakes them for computers that have value
to normal people), floppies are again the most conventient thing.
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:30 PM
Sam Sharpe
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

On 21 February 2010 22:23, Ralph Blach <rcblach@gmail.com> wrote:
> I used an 8 inch floppy a long time ago

*must* *resist* *smutty* *jokes*

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Old 02-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Paul Allen Newell
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:36:09 +0000,
> "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" <n2xssvv.g02gfr12930@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But
>> it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I
>> create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required?
>>
>
> I haven't gotten around to filing a bug about this since I wasn't sure
> if it was intentional or not, but you can use:
> modprobe floppy
> to create /dev/fd0 and be able to use your floppy drive.
>
I filed one awhile back, don't know if it fits your issue. Before filing
I did check to see the /dev/fd0 and/or the link to /dev/floppy existed.
I haven't again tested recently above and beyond confirming that it
wasn't working under f12 (the bug was filed under f11)

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:52 PM
Bruno Wolff III
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 14:45:59 -0800,
Paul Allen Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741

I am already cc'd on that one. Though I suspect my issue is a udev
one, not a nautilus one.

P.S. I did get the wx8000s flashed, though the latest bios still didn't
support booting from USB drives. I used a floppy to do it, though in
the future I would probably take a look at using flashrom to do bios
flashing.
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Old 02-21-2010, 11:54 PM
Gene Heskett
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

On Sunday 21 February 2010, Sam Sharpe wrote:
>On 21 February 2010 22:23, Ralph Blach <rcblach@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I used an 8 inch floppy a long time ago
>
>*must* *resist* *smutty* *jokes*
>
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Probably just as well Sam, but I'm still using 5.25" drives almost daily
here.

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Old 02-22-2010, 03:17 AM
Paul Allen Newell
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 14:45:59 -0800,
> Paul Allen Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741
>>
>
> I am already cc'd on that one. Though I suspect my issue is a udev
> one, not a nautilus one.
>
> P.S. I did get the wx8000s flashed, though the latest bios still didn't
> support booting from USB drives. I used a floppy to do it, though in
> the future I would probably take a look at using flashrom to do bios
> flashing.
>
>
Bruno:

Thanks for the reply. Let me/us know what the bug ID is of what you end
of submitting as I have this feeling it will all end up be related and a
fix in one will impact the other.

I haven't flashed my wx8000 nor moved it from F9 as it works quite
nicely and don't want to mess. Not to mention I really don't want to
deal with what happens if I make a mistake in flashing.

The bug was submitted against x4000 which no longer have BIOS updates
and I know they are at the latest.

Plus, I have to admit a floppy drive is only a convenience for me, not a
mandatory.

Paul
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Old 02-22-2010, 02:25 PM
Aaron Konstam
 
Default What happened to floppy drive support?

On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 20:36 +0000, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But
> it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I
> create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required?
>
> JB
>

I would suggest changing to pen drives. They are potentially much larger
than floppies in capacity and most machines have extra places to insert
them.

OT - If anyone is intrigued by the Windows 7 with Touch Screen and Web
Cam capabilities here is a tip. You need 5 usb ports for the various
gadgets, and my Dell came with 4 on the back of the machine. Inserting a
usb hub caused the machine to crash.
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