On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:44:42 -0500
William Case wrote:

> When I experiment on another machine with a different printer; and try
> to change the "Make and Model: field" for that printer the dialog that
> pops up does include the Brother DCP 7020 and the Foomatic/hl1250
> driver. !!!

I suspect one of these machines has "foomatic" installed and
the other does not. The "foomatic" package is no longer
included in any of the install media for fedora 12, it is
only in the repos.
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On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 10:44 -0500, William Case wrote:
> When I click on the 'Change ...' button I get a list of Brother printers
> that does *not* include the DCP 7020. [That is why I tried the HL 1250]

Install the foomatic package.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#foomatic-not-installed

Tim.
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Thanks Tim and Tom;

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 15:57 +0000, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 10:44 -0500, William Case wrote:
> > When I click on the 'Change ...' button I get a list of Brother printers
> > that does *not* include the DCP 7020. [That is why I tried the HL 1250]
>
> Install the foomatic package.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#foomatic-not-installed
>

Mea culpa. I should have thought of that myself. Every thing works
fine now.

Small nitpick/bug. The little popup for root's password doesn't have
the cursor focused in the password field like the other administration
apps do. When your screwing around a lot with printing like I was, it's
annoying to have to keep typing your password twice (first automatically
by habit, then again after one realizes the cursor isn't focused).

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On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 11:50 -0500, William Case wrote:
> Small nitpick/bug. The little popup for root's password doesn't have
> the cursor focused in the password field like the other administration
> apps do. When your screwing around a lot with printing like I was, it's
> annoying to have to keep typing your password twice (first automatically
> by habit, then again after one realizes the cursor isn't focused).

I think you mean the PolicyKit dialog, which says things like
"Privileges are required to get devices." and "An application is
attempting to perform an action that requires privileges."

In that case, do you mean that the window is not brought to the front,
and instead is hidden behind other windows? I believe this is a
PolicyKit problem: there is no way for the client (system-config-printer
in this case) to indicate to the dialog which window has "caused" the
authentication dialog, and I think causes the window manager to prevent
it from "focus stealing".

Or did you mean some other dialog, or some other problem?

Tim.
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Hi Tim;

On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 16:00 +0000, Tim Waugh wrote:

>
> I think you mean the PolicyKit dialog, which says things like
> "Privileges are required to get devices." and "An application is
> attempting to perform an action that requires privileges."
>
Yes, that is the widow.

I experimented with various attempts at printing re-configuration.

The Window I am referring to is titled "Authentication".


> In that case, do you mean that the window is not brought to the front,
> and instead is hidden behind other windows?
> I believe this is a PolicyKit problem: there is no way for the client
> (system-config-printer in this case) to indicate to the dialog which window has "caused" the
> authentication dialog, and I think causes the window manager to prevent
> it from "focus stealing".

It is brought to the front, but remains unfocused.

I also experimented with other administration gui's. Some do use the
"Authentication" window which remains unfocused.

Others, like List Hardware (lshw), Network Device Control and Display
for example, use a query window at the start that says:

"Query
You are attempting to run "lshw-gui" which requires administrative
privileges, but more information is needed in order to do so.
Authentication as "root"
Password: "

This Query window always starts focused.

Don't take me amiss. My comments where only meant as a minor nit-pick
not as a major complaint. With that said, most users are like me -- so
used to automatically and rapidly typing in "root's" password that it is
a bit of an annoyance to have to stop and read which Authentication
window your dealing with and/or having to type the password twice.

If it is a PolicyKit problem, maybe we can both gang up on the PolicyKit
people to change their password window to be focused?

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On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 11:58 -0500, William Case wrote:
> If it is a PolicyKit problem, maybe we can both gang up on the PolicyKit
> people to change their password window to be focused?

I've filed a bug report for this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555109

Thanks for noting it.

Tim.
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