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Old 01-06-2008, 12:57 AM
Jim Cornette
 
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Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Steven Stern wrote:

I don't think it's an NVidia thing. I'm getting very flaky stuff and I
have an ATI Radeon card (using the default Fedora drivers). GoogleEarth
starts, but it disappears, or flickers uncontrollably or, as just
happened, locked the system up requiring a power cycle. It worked well
on F7, but has not worked well at all on F8.


I have similar problems on my FC6 Radeon Mobility X1600 laptop. Google
earth runs the first time, but not the 2nd without restarting the
X-server. It hangs my X-server hard. I have to network in just to
restart the X-server. If I just kill the GoogleEarth program, the whole
machine locks up soon thereafter. But not if I kill/restart the X
server (fglrx).

On my FC5 desktop with an old GeForce 2 MX400 nVidia card, it was rock
solid, running 1st time, every time. I have not yet tried it since I
updated it from FC5 to F8.



It works fine with the end of the line ati driver,
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.7.196-2.fc9. Any later driver locks up in a loop for
X in general.
I believe the performance is better than with older versions of X or of
the ati driver (Fedora 7 or 8)


HP ze4300 laptop, ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1 graphics.

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Old 01-06-2008, 02:38 AM
Gilboa Davara
 
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On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 17:11 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Duane Clark wrote:
> > Karl Larsen wrote:
> >> Cameron Simpson wrote:
> >>> On 05Jan2008 15:10, Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I saw where one had trouble with this application so decided to
> >>>> get it and run it on my F8. I installed it in my user's space and
> >>>> when I clicked on the earth on my Desktop the screen will go blank
> >>>> and then come back up in init 3. I would have re-login. This is not
> >>>> nice.
> >>>>
> >>>> I reloaded it as root and it does the exact same thing :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Guess I better tell Google.
> >>>>
> >>> It may just blow the mind of your machine. It needs a fair bit of
> >>> memory
> >>> and decent 3d support (OpenGL). It sounds like its crashing your X
> >>> server, which is arguably a bug in the X server, not google earth.
> >>>
> >> It's the only thing that has ever done this. I have 2 gig of RAM
> >> and lots of hard drive space. The X-server is Nvidia and it might not
> >> like what Google is asking for.
> >
> > Do you mean the video driver is Nvidia (the video driver is different
> > from the X server)? I use the livna Nvidia driver, kmod-nvidia, on an
> > F7 system with a GeForce 7900 GS video card, and Google earth works
> > quite well.
> >
> To be exactly right the video card is made by Nvidia and will not
> work at all well unless I get the Linux driver software which in my case
> is in a bash file from the Nvidia web page. Everything else seems to
> work fine and I seem to have some 3D effects as expected.
>
> I have a F7 system on this computer and I will try GoogleEarth there.
>
> Karl


You seem to be hitting an nVidia driver bug.
I'd suggest you file a bug report in nvnews [1] support forum.

- Gilboa
[1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14


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Old 01-06-2008, 02:40 AM
Gilboa Davara
 
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On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 20:26 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Steven Stern wrote:
> > I don't think it's an NVidia thing. I'm getting very flaky stuff and I
> > have an ATI Radeon card (using the default Fedora drivers). GoogleEarth
> > starts, but it disappears, or flickers uncontrollably or, as just
> > happened, locked the system up requiring a power cycle. It worked well
> > on F7, but has not worked well at all on F8.
>
> I have similar problems on my FC6 Radeon Mobility X1600 laptop. Google
> earth runs the first time, but not the 2nd without restarting the
> X-server. It hangs my X-server hard. I have to network in just to
> restart the X-server. If I just kill the GoogleEarth program, the whole
> machine locks up soon thereafter. But not if I kill/restart the X
> server (fglrx).
>
> On my FC5 desktop with an old GeForce 2 MX400 nVidia card, it was rock
> solid, running 1st time, every time. I have not yet tried it since I
> updated it from FC5 to F8.
>
> --

Kevin,

If you're using the OSS driver - I'd suggest you file a bug report in Fedora and/or upstream X.org.

- Gilboa

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Old 01-06-2008, 02:48 AM
"Kevin J. Cummings"
 
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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 20:26 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>> Steven Stern wrote:
>>> I don't think it's an NVidia thing. I'm getting very flaky stuff and I
>>> have an ATI Radeon card (using the default Fedora drivers). GoogleEarth
>>> starts, but it disappears, or flickers uncontrollably or, as just
>>> happened, locked the system up requiring a power cycle. It worked well
>>> on F7, but has not worked well at all on F8.
>> I have similar problems on my FC6 Radeon Mobility X1600 laptop. Google
>> earth runs the first time, but not the 2nd without restarting the
>> X-server. It hangs my X-server hard. I have to network in just to
>> restart the X-server. If I just kill the GoogleEarth program, the whole
>> machine locks up soon thereafter. But not if I kill/restart the X
>> server (fglrx).
>>
>> On my FC5 desktop with an old GeForce 2 MX400 nVidia card, it was rock
>> solid, running 1st time, every time. I have not yet tried it since I
>> updated it from FC5 to F8.
>>
>> --
>
> Kevin,
>
> If you're using the OSS driver - I'd suggest you file a bug report in Fedora and/or upstream X.org.

fglrx is *not* the OSS driver. Its the AMD/ATI proprietary driver.

> - Gilboa
>


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Old 01-06-2008, 03:05 AM
Gilboa Davara
 
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On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 22:48 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 20:26 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> >> Steven Stern wrote:
> >>> I don't think it's an NVidia thing. I'm getting very flaky stuff and I
> >>> have an ATI Radeon card (using the default Fedora drivers). GoogleEarth
> >>> starts, but it disappears, or flickers uncontrollably or, as just
> >>> happened, locked the system up requiring a power cycle. It worked well
> >>> on F7, but has not worked well at all on F8.
> >> I have similar problems on my FC6 Radeon Mobility X1600 laptop. Google
> >> earth runs the first time, but not the 2nd without restarting the
> >> X-server. It hangs my X-server hard. I have to network in just to
> >> restart the X-server. If I just kill the GoogleEarth program, the whole
> >> machine locks up soon thereafter. But not if I kill/restart the X
> >> server (fglrx).
> >>
> >> On my FC5 desktop with an old GeForce 2 MX400 nVidia card, it was rock
> >> solid, running 1st time, every time. I have not yet tried it since I
> >> updated it from FC5 to F8.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > If you're using the OSS driver - I'd suggest you file a bug report in Fedora and/or upstream X.org.
>
> fglrx is *not* the OSS driver. Its the AMD/ATI proprietary driver.

I missed the fglrx part. My bad.

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Old 01-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Martin Marques
 
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Duane Clark escribió:

Karl Larsen wrote:
To be exactly right the video card is made by Nvidia and will not
work at all well unless I get the Linux driver software which in my
case is in a bash file from the Nvidia web page. Everything else seems
to work fine and I seem to have some 3D effects as expected.


I have a F7 system on this computer and I will try GoogleEarth there.



I believe that the driver from the Nvidia page is probably the same one
supplied by Livna. I notice that the Nvidia page says that the Version
is "169.07" and my system reports:


# rpm -qi kmod-nvidia
Name : kmod-nvidia Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 169.07 Vendor: rpm.livna.org



What???

I'm shocked! kmod-nvidia (which is just a meta-package) is at version
169.07, but all the real packages are at older versiones. Why?


# yum list | grep kmod-nvidia
kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-1.2.6.23.12_5 installed
kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.24-0.133.rc6.git8.f 96.43.01-16.fc8 installed
kmod-nvidia.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-17.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-18.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-19.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-16.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-17.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-18.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy.x86_64 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-15.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-16.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-17.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna

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Old 01-06-2008, 06:13 PM
Tanguy Eric
 
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Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:19 -0200, Martin Marques a écrit :
> Duane Clark escribió:
> > Karl Larsen wrote:
> >> To be exactly right the video card is made by Nvidia and will not
> >> work at all well unless I get the Linux driver software which in my
> >> case is in a bash file from the Nvidia web page. Everything else seems
> >> to work fine and I seem to have some 3D effects as expected.
> >>
> >> I have a F7 system on this computer and I will try GoogleEarth there.
> >>
> >
> > I believe that the driver from the Nvidia page is probably the same one
> > supplied by Livna. I notice that the Nvidia page says that the Version
> > is "169.07" and my system reports:
> >
> > # rpm -qi kmod-nvidia
> > Name : kmod-nvidia Relocations: (not relocatable)
> > Version : 169.07 Vendor: rpm.livna.org
> >
>
> What???
>
> I'm shocked! kmod-nvidia (which is just a meta-package) is at version
> 169.07, but all the real packages are at older versiones. Why?
>
> # yum list | grep kmod-nvidia
> kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-1.2.6.23.12_5 installed
> kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.24-0.133.rc6.git8.f 96.43.01-16.fc8 installed
> kmod-nvidia.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-17.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-18.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-19.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-16.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-17.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-18.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-legacy.x86_64 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-15.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-16.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-17.lvn8 livna
> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
>
kmod-nvidia-legacy and kmod-nvidia-96xx are for old hardware (still
build for current kernels). The up to date package is kmod-nvidia which
is no more a metapackage than the other ones.

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Old 01-10-2008, 10:06 AM
"Antonio M"
 
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2008/1/6, Tanguy Eric <eric.tanguy@univ-nantes.fr>:
>
> Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:19 -0200, Martin Marques a écrit :
> > Duane Clark escribió:
> > > Karl Larsen wrote:
> > >> To be exactly right the video card is made by Nvidia and will not
> > >> work at all well unless I get the Linux driver software which in my
> > >> case is in a bash file from the Nvidia web page. Everything else seems
> > >> to work fine and I seem to have some 3D effects as expected.
> > >>
> > >> I have a F7 system on this computer and I will try GoogleEarth there.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I believe that the driver from the Nvidia page is probably the same one
> > > supplied by Livna. I notice that the Nvidia page says that the Version
> > > is "169.07" and my system reports:
> > >
> > > # rpm -qi kmod-nvidia
> > > Name : kmod-nvidia Relocations: (not relocatable)
> > > Version : 169.07 Vendor: rpm.livna.org
> > >
> >
> > What???
> >
> > I'm shocked! kmod-nvidia (which is just a meta-package) is at version
> > 169.07, but all the real packages are at older versiones. Why?
> >
> > # yum list | grep kmod-nvidia
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-1.2.6.23.12_5 installed
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.24-0.133.rc6.git8.f 96.43.01-16.fc8 installed
> > kmod-nvidia.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-17.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-18.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-19.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-16.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-17.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-18.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-legacy.x86_64 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-15.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-16.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-17.lvn8 livna
> > kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
> >
> kmod-nvidia-legacy and kmod-nvidia-96xx are for old hardware (still
> build for current kernels). The up to date package is kmod-nvidia which
> is no more a metapackage than the other ones.
>
> Eric
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for your info, GEarth crashes on my F9 rawhide system using intel driver...
Exactly, system crashes and user is logged out and computer re-start
at login screen.

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:41 PM
Karl Larsen
 
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Antonio M wrote:

2008/1/6, Tanguy Eric <eric.tanguy@univ-nantes.fr>:


Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:19 -0200, Martin Marques a écrit :


Duane Clark escribió:


Karl Larsen wrote:


To be exactly right the video card is made by Nvidia and will not
work at all well unless I get the Linux driver software which in my
case is in a bash file from the Nvidia web page. Everything else seems
to work fine and I seem to have some 3D effects as expected.

I have a F7 system on this computer and I will try GoogleEarth there.



I believe that the driver from the Nvidia page is probably the same one
supplied by Livna. I notice that the Nvidia page says that the Version
is "169.07" and my system reports:

# rpm -qi kmod-nvidia
Name : kmod-nvidia Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 169.07 Vendor: rpm.livna.org



What???

I'm shocked! kmod-nvidia (which is just a meta-package) is at version
169.07, but all the real packages are at older versiones. Why?

# yum list | grep kmod-nvidia
kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-1.2.6.23.12_5 installed
kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.24-0.133.rc6.git8.f 96.43.01-16.fc8 installed
kmod-nvidia.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-17.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-18.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-19.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-16.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-17.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-18.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy.x86_64 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-15.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-16.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-17.lvn8 livna
kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna



kmod-nvidia-legacy and kmod-nvidia-96xx are for old hardware (still
build for current kernels). The up to date package is kmod-nvidia which
is no more a metapackage than the other ones.

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for your info, GEarth crashes on my F9 rawhide system using intel driver...
Exactly, system crashes and user is logged out and computer re-start
at login screen.

Any idea???


It sounds to me since it does the same thing on F7 and F8 that there
might be a problem with google-earth. It might be that it is designed to
work in the ubuntu operating system.



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Old 01-10-2008, 12:56 PM
"Antonio M"
 
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2008/1/10, Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com>:
> Antonio M wrote:
> > 2008/1/6, Tanguy Eric <eric.tanguy@univ-nantes.fr>:
> >
> >> Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:19 -0200, Martin Marques a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Duane Clark escribió:
> >>>
> >>>> Karl Larsen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> To be exactly right the video card is made by Nvidia and will not
> >>>>> work at all well unless I get the Linux driver software which in my
> >>>>> case is in a bash file from the Nvidia web page. Everything else seems
> >>>>> to work fine and I seem to have some 3D effects as expected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a F7 system on this computer and I will try GoogleEarth there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> I believe that the driver from the Nvidia page is probably the same one
> >>>> supplied by Livna. I notice that the Nvidia page says that the Version
> >>>> is "169.07" and my system reports:
> >>>>
> >>>> # rpm -qi kmod-nvidia
> >>>> Name : kmod-nvidia Relocations: (not relocatable)
> >>>> Version : 169.07 Vendor: rpm.livna.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> What???
> >>>
> >>> I'm shocked! kmod-nvidia (which is just a meta-package) is at version
> >>> 169.07, but all the real packages are at older versiones. Why?
> >>>
> >>> # yum list | grep kmod-nvidia
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-1.2.6.23.12_5 installed
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-19.lvn8 installed
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.24-0.133.rc6.git8.f 96.43.01-16.fc8 installed
> >>> kmod-nvidia.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-17.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-18.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 100.14.19-19.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_64 169.07-1.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-16.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-17.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-96xx-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_64 96.43.01-18.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-legacy.x86_64 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-42.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-15.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-16.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.8-63.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-17.lvn8 livna
> >>> kmod-nvidia-legacy-2.6.23.9-85.fc8.x86_6 71.86.01-18.lvn8 livna
> >>>
> >>>
> >> kmod-nvidia-legacy and kmod-nvidia-96xx are for old hardware (still
> >> build for current kernels). The up to date package is kmod-nvidia which
> >> is no more a metapackage than the other ones.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
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> > for your info, GEarth crashes on my F9 rawhide system using intel driver...
> > Exactly, system crashes and user is logged out and computer re-start
> > at login screen.
> >
> > Any idea???
> >
> >
> It sounds to me since it does the same thing on F7 and F8 that there
> might be a problem with google-earth. It might be that it is designed to
> work in the ubuntu operating system.
>
>
> Karl
>
>
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It is working in FC9 with nv driver, it was working in FC7 with nvidia
driver from livna, it was working in FC6 with ATI driver, for some
time it had been working in FC7 but success was related to release of
GE and intel driver.
I had no time to test in FC8 as I switched immediately to rawhide (I.e. FC9).

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